Cptbaker08 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 What is the cheapest, most effective outfit that you know of for aviansies at 61 ranged. All advice is appreciated. Prayer is your best option so here is what equipment you should use for it: Spined helmet (Not [bleep]ed) Holy symbol (Saradomin) Zamorak robe top (The cheap red one) Monk robe bottom Snakeskin boots Ava's accumaltor Red [bleep]ed vambs Broodoo shield (+5 Prayer bonus) Ammunition: Emerald bolts (e) (The poison will help you kill and will compensate for your low damaging) It might cost you some for prayer potions and the ammunition, but if you try to tank it you will have hard time and i would rather pray. monk robe is saradomin, if you have a zammorak prayer book use full monk robe, and the price will be higher as you will need potions and more then one bolt Since he is going to be praying, max prayer bonus he can get is a plus. The Holy Symbol is there for prayer bonus. Now if you can get the Unholy Book, or even the Book of Balance, it would be aplus as they give prayer bonus and some range attack bonus. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 SirHemen, thats a nice cheap setup but replace the holy symbol with unholy then you can have monk robe top. The zamorak robe gives prayer bonus, as for necklace...a glory is better. Glory gives +10 ranged attack bonus. As for everyone else: Topic poster has low stats so i don't think he could have done the quest "Horror from deep" and i don't think he has any of the god books completed. So can you try to take that into consideration. I could post the best equipment, but i doubt he could get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 But monk robe has 2 more prayer bonus and the unholy has 5 more prayer bonus. The extra 8 range attack from the glory doesn't make up for the 5 prayer loss IMO as it will cost him more in prayer potions. So you'd lose 7 prayer bonus for 8 range attack. PS. not played the how cheap can you get a setup game for a while. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 But monk robe has 2 more prayer bonus and the unholy has 5 more prayer bonus. The extra 8 range attack from the glory doesn't make up for the 5 prayer loss IMO as it will cost him more in prayer potions. So you'd lose 7 prayer bonus for 8 range attack. PS. not played the how cheap can you get a setup game for a while. As long as your prayer bonus is over 15 (For high levels), you should then focus only on attack bonus. For low levels i would say 18 prayer bonus is right. If you focus to much on prayer bonus, you will hit alot 0s. Attack bonus matters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippymister Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hm, all these setups look kinda sketchy tbh. Heres what I would use. Sara Mitre (I think thats what its called, the head part of the sara robes. This will be your sara item) Glory/fury ammy (No need for arma pendant since you're praying) Red d'hide top (Not zammy, just regular red d'hide) Monks robe bottom Unholy book (this will help a lot, but if you don't have it I would switch it out for that shield with the pray bonus everyones talking about, and switch an unholy symbol in for the glory) Snakeskin boots Red d'hide vambraces Ava's accumulator Rune c'bow Broad bolts (same as mith but much cheaper) Ring of Life (just in case :P) Everyone is saying to use monk robe top and d'hide legs, but you should use d'hide top and monk robes legs because the robes give the same pray bonus, whereas the d'hide top will give you much more range bonus. This setup is a pretty good compromise of pray bonus and range attack bonus, and it served me well when I used to pray aviansies. I would strongly suggest getting an unholy book if you don't have one, its totally worth it when you're doing anything that involves range, and here it will give you a nice range bonus, plus prayer bonus, and you will get to stick with the glory/fury ammy, giving you more range/pray bonus. Good luck! :ohnoes:My Guide on Obby Mauling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezkaton Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I've just been extremely confused by all of you on this matter as there are way too many options to go over. Anyhoo I'll be going back to avis tonight just for fun and profit (last 2 times i've been there i've made 500K in profit) What i wore and had in invent = Head: Archer Helm Body: Red Dhide Legs: Red Dhide Xbow: Rune Vambs: red [bleep]ey Boots: Snakeskin Shield: Zammy Book Neck: Sara Stole Ring: Archers Ring (supposedly according to many threads on the aviansies RoW is not good to take as it supposedly reduces the number of bars you'll get) Bolts: 2K mith bolts (went through about 500 each trip with 200Kc each trip) However with your stats, if sirhemen is right i'd switch the zammy book with the broodoo shield, and i would wear the sara symbol because you can't wear the stole, or if you've managed to do temple of ikov you could sacrifice some stats for the armadyl pendant (would this be good for me to go with?) also you may want to try the emerald bolts (e) For the inventory i took: Climbing boots (drop them) Fire Staff 200 Natures 1 noted Addy bar 1gp 1 monkfish (emergency) 1 falador teleport (emergency/tele out at end of trip) 22 prayer potions Hope i was of some help Reacting impulsively and saying what's on your mind feels oh so good.. for a little, until you realize you just started WWIII.2672nd person to reach 2496 total.Thanks to Wicked for the awesome siggy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippymister Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Ring: Archers Ring (supposedly according to many threads on the aviansies RoW is not good to take as it supposedly reduces the number of bars you'll get) Bolts: 2K mith bolts (went through about 500 each trip with 200Kc each trip) RoW increases chance of rare drops, and addy bars aren't a rare drop, it doesn't reduce the number of bars, just doesn't affect it. That said, theres really no sense in risking the 600k or something (I have no idea of price of archers ring) for a +4 or so range bonus. It would be a much better idea just to take a ring of life in case of disconnection or getting distracted. As for the bolts, theres also no point in spending the money on mith bolts. Broad-tipped bolts are the same as mith but cost much much less. Also the rest of your set up doesn't really hit on prayer bonus at all. You say you got 200kc, and you could get waaaay more if you swapped in monk robes bottom and a mitre instead of the archer helm. You really want a balance of prayer bonus and range attack, and you're going for all range bonus and no prayer bonus. When I prayed at aviansies with the setup I mentioned I recall getting well over 500 kc, probly more like 700. (although I had 70+ ranged at the time as well) :ohnoes:My Guide on Obby Mauling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 RoW increases chance of rare drops, and addy bars aren't a rare drop, it doesn't reduce the number of bars, just doesn't affect it. That said, theres really no sense in risking the 600k or something (I have no idea of price of archers ring) for a +4 or so range bonus. It would be a much better idea just to take a ring of life in case of disconnection or getting distracted. It does effect the bar drops. Think of it this way. Odds of getting a addy bar 1 in 4 - common stays the same regardless Odds of getting a rune dagger (this is merely guess work, but you'll get the idea) - w/o RoW 1 in 30 - w RoW 1 in 20. So every 200 kills you should get about 6 or 7 rune daggers without RoW 10. That means for the difference 3 or 4 one of your drops is replaced with the dagger. So you could be losing 3 or 4 bar drops. This happens with all the rare drops they have to replace another items drop ie the more common ones. In short by increasing the rate of the rare drops you decrease the rate of your more common drops. Its like making 4 of the holes bigger in roulette you end up making the others smaller. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purewcnub Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 SirHemen, thats a nice cheap setup but replace the holy symbol with unholy then you can have monk robe top. The zamorak robe gives prayer bonus, as for necklace...a glory is better. Glory gives +10 ranged attack bonus. As for everyone else: Topic poster has low stats so i don't think he could have done the quest "Horror from deep" and i don't think he has any of the god books completed. So can you try to take that into consideration. I could post the best equipment, but i doubt he could get it... Rofl, topic poster has low stats and cannot beat horror from the deep. Lmao. I beat horror from the deep with 40 attack, 40 str, 40 range, 40 mage. I have a full zamorak book. Goals: 94 magic94 ranged55 slayerAddy gloves-done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippymister Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 RoW increases chance of rare drops, and addy bars aren't a rare drop, it doesn't reduce the number of bars, just doesn't affect it. That said, theres really no sense in risking the 600k or something (I have no idea of price of archers ring) for a +4 or so range bonus. It would be a much better idea just to take a ring of life in case of disconnection or getting distracted. It does effect the bar drops. Think of it this way. Odds of getting a addy bar 1 in 4 - common stays the same regardless Odds of getting a rune dagger (this is merely guess work, but you'll get the idea) - w/o RoW 1 in 30 - w RoW 1 in 20. So every 200 kills you should get about 6 or 7 rune daggers without RoW 10. That means for the difference 3 or 4 one of your drops is replaced with the dagger. So you could be losing 3 or 4 bar drops. This happens with all the rare drops they have to replace another items drop ie the more common ones. In short by increasing the rate of the rare drops you decrease the rate of your more common drops. Its like making 4 of the holes bigger in roulette you end up making the others smaller. A while ago, Jagex specifically went over this. Think of the drops like a roulette (sp?) table in a casino, with a big wheel on the outside and a smaller spinning wheel on the inside. The wheel on the outside contains normal, non-rare drops (addy bars, rune dagger, herbs, rune limbs etc.) The wheel on the inside contains rare drops (half-keys, dragon spears, etc.). A ring of wealth only increases the chance that your little marble thingy will get to that inner wheel containing the valuable drops. In theory, yes you wouldn't get as many addy bars because you would be getting to the inner wheel more of the time. (although if this were totally true, it would be completely worth it because instead of getting addy bars you'd be getting more dragon spears, half keys etc.) The point is, is that either way a RoW isn't worth it, and an archers ring also isn't worth the risk. By far, your best bet is a ring of life, considering if you're praying and get disconnected without an arma pendant theres a very good chance that you will run out of pray and get destroyed by several aviansies hitting you at once. A ring of life has a good chance of getting you out of a sticky situation like this. Also, theres no real rates when it comes to monster drops. A RoW won't make it so that instead of getting 1 visage in every 2000 kills you get 1 visage in every 1000 kills. Theres no set limit at all, all that the RoW does is increase your chances of getting to that inner wheel where the "rare" drops are, therefore increasing your chance of getting a "rare" drop. :ohnoes:My Guide on Obby Mauling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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