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ello i'd say i have decent knowledge of computers and networks.

 

 

 

recently i've downloaded some new apps for my ipod touch and have been working on my network security.

 

 

 

for the past few days i decided i would remove the WEP encryption from my wireless internet- and i am surprised with how many people are actually accessing my network now.

 

 

 

i am using an app for the ipod touch called iNet, which basically scans my network and tells me who and what is connected.

 

 

 

right now it has detected:

 

 

 

[hide] my wireless router

 

my mother's computer

 

my computer

 

my router

 

my psp

 

amanda ********'s macbook [/hide]

 

 

 

as you can see above, this female intruder is using my wireless connection. i find it quite funny. i would like to make it entertaining for me though- she isn't the first, nor the second visitor to my LAN today.

 

 

 

what can i do to deter intruders? i don't mean along the lines of just putting my key up again.. since they are on my network, is there anything i can do to do maybe something like a net send, telnet, DoS, overflow or remote access that i could pull off?

 

 

 

sorry if this is against the rules, but if these people are on my network without my permission, they are breaking FCC code. i deserve to have a little fun with them. its not like this an advertised hotspot or anything.

 

 

 

ty for any help :D

 

 

 

ps- doing nmap scan now.. i know nothing about macs though.. tbh i know nothing about computers compared to users on this forum.

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Don't think you should intrude on her computer in any way, however tempting it is.

 

If you just want some fun, just rename your network to "I see your mac, get off".

 

 

 

But why are you using WEP instead of WPA?

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awh alright :oops:

 

i'm not sure why i'm using WEP actually, i read that WPA (TKIP) or something of that nature was a lot more secure than WEP- is that correct?

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It is annoying that people are connecting to someone elses network instead of their own, yes. I have two thoughts on this, either they don't want to use their own (downloading illegal music via torrents for example) or the person is non-technical and doesn't know what he/she is connecting to.

 

WPA/2 is more secure, yep. WEP should still be enough if you don't have some hacker living in your surroundings (difficult to know lol), but if you can switch to WPA - do it.

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edit: shes back, along with a visitor from ealier: ORHAN-PC........

 

 

 

and i'm 110% sure there aren't any hackers around here.. my friend connected to two network routers in the area using his ipod touch- they were still default admin/admin :lol:

 

i'm realizing now that the ipod touch is a really great tool for this kind of stuff- a lot of the apps are free aswell

 

 

 

i'll probably look into switching to WPA- however i was wondering if it is possible for hackers to open ports by connecting to my network, entering my password, and going to 192.168.1.1?

 

can they do this?

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i'm using a linksys router- there seems to be a way to create an access policy.

 

could i create some type of access page which would humiliate or confuse the heck out of them?

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search on pc world... i remember an article about a program that causes all images to be flipped when someone else uses your wifi

 

 

 

 

 

i'm using a linksys router- there seems to be a way to create an access policy.

 

could i create some type of access page which would humiliate or confuse the heck out of them?

 

 

 

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i found this

 

 

 

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/03/prank-on-wifi-leeche.html

 

& this

 

http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

 

-first one is too vague, second one is telling me to do scripting.. which i have no idea how to do -.-

 

could you explain?

 

 

 

i've got a 15 mile bike race bright and early tomorrow and i haven't rode my bike since last summer. i've got to get some rest.

 

thanks for your help

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I suggest you secure your connection again. I don't care if you think there are no script kiddies living around your place, but there might who happen connect to your wifi. Who might run a "program" that analyzes network packets, or even worse use your network to do something illegal. If it's anything money related, local authorities will come, confiscate your computer and turn your place upside down. I don't think you would want that.

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I agree with Denis, re-secure your WIFI with WPA and enable MAC address filtering. Don't bother with WEP as it can be broken easily in about 10 mins by anyone willing to google for a WEP cracking tool.

 

 

 

One thing you should be aware of: You are responsible for your own network traffic and security, so if someone uses your network for illegal reasons you could find yourself in a lot of trouble, Imagine if the cops turned up looking for someone who has been downloading illegal porn images. Even if it's proven you are innocent, things like that stick to you like glue. It's not worth taking the risk, secure it now!

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Like Denis stated, re-secure your wireless.

 

Make the WEP key about 10-20 characters long so that it makes hackers harder to access it.

 

If all else fails, use Local Area Connection. Since Wireless Routers need a cable connected to make it work, you might as well already have one.

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You could just set your network to never broadcast it's SSID, meaning you have to know the name of it to connect.

 

 

 

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i'm not in that much of a hurry to put the encryption back on.. i've had this wireless router since before i even started playing runescape(4? 5? years), and the wireless signal was unprotected for at least 3 years until i realized that i had to edit the connection to make it work with my psp and thats when i put the WEP key on it.

 

 

 

i wouldn't be suprised if some of my neighbors have been using my internet for years, once we even found a girl sitting right in front of our house on her laptop :wall:

 

 

 

when we first got the router my dad paid some random guy $20 to "put a password" on it.

 

there was no password on it when i finally got to it, this guy simply changed the name of the connected to "beatlesnet" (because my father loves the beatles i suppose)

 

 

 

i think its time for payback.. sending them to that squid proxy, redirecting them somewhere, these people are stupid and probably won't realize that its coming from my wifi, not their computer. it appears that the code for the squid proxy or blurry images is written in perl. i do not know how to write perl or how to implement perl.

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I might try this myself, take my unused

 

router to Tafe and plug it in while it sits in my bag, my friends will connect to it the moment it shows on their networks.

 

To do it where would I have to go? I have a D-Link DI-524 router, and I really don't want to hijack this thread, maybe if someone could PM to kep this thread for the OPs questions.

 

 

 

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Like Denis stated, re-secure your wireless.

 

Make the WEP key about 10-20 characters long so that it makes hackers harder to access it.

 

 

No no no, do NOT use WEP, as I stated earlier it can be broken in about 10 mins easily. Go for WPA, it's much more secure.

 

 

 

If I remember correctly it's done using bruteforce (which can take hundreds of years) or a dictionary attack (only works if you use a word that is in the dictionary).

 

 

 

If you password is long and isn't in the dictionary, you are safe.

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Like Denis stated, re-secure your wireless.

 

Make the WEP key about 10-20 characters long so that it makes hackers harder to access it.

 

 

No no no, do NOT use WEP, as I stated earlier it can be broken in about 10 mins easily. Go for WPA, it's much more secure.

 

 

 

If I remember correctly it's done using bruteforce (which can take hundreds of years) or a dictionary attack (only works if you use a word that is in the dictionary).

 

 

 

If you password is long and isn't in the dictionary, you are safe.

 

Sorry but I don't wish to appear condescending but you really have no idea what you're talking about. I have cracked a friends wifi using WEP as a test in 25 minutes, and she was using a key of 26 random characters, passwords do not enter into the equation.

 

 

 

And before anyone asks, I am not going to tell what tool I was using to do this as I really do not endorse the practice of breaking security.

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:thumbdown: alright not a single person answered my question so far besides smapla (and joe convincing me not to do anything)

 

- i even posted a link to two sites which kind of explained exactly what i was trying to do.

 

 

 

let me re-state it:

 

 

 

I am trying to have some FUN with people who are illegally using my wireless network. notice: i call them noobs. i know enough about network security (they, obviously, do not), i know how to set a white/blacklist, i know that WEP is easily cracked, i know that it is potentially dangerous to leave my wireless un-encrypted. i understand all this.

 

 

 

i'm just looking to do something mostly harmless to them without breaking out my big network tools such as ettercap, ethereal, wireshark, WinAutoPwn, netcat, etc..

 

 

 

obviously, i don't want to feel like a [bleep]ing loser using these high-profile and high-noise applications to do a little mischief. if i wanted to do a hack attack i would just use one of the above programs, i'm capable.

 

 

 

can somebody just tell me how to send my users who aren't on my whitelist through a proxy or to certain web pages? i know it can be done on iptables in linux but i'm unfortunatly on windows.

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To start with, it's a shame people didn't get the point of his whole idea of "opening his wifi". To be honest, for some time I've been meaning to open my own WiFi, with a B/W limit of 5Kb/sec, and if they went over, their MAC address would be glued to BadgerBadgerBadger for all eternity. :lol:

 

 

 

I looked at the pages you linked to (one linked to the other one with all the scripting and stuff), and I'm still racking my brain around Windows networking to see if that's possible somehow in Windows, or even your router. Which specific Linksys router do you have? I'm not sure if any of them support redirecting, and it's highly improbable that they'd support the Perl.

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its an older linksys..

 

WRT54G

 

 

 

i believe they are still widely in use.

 

 

 

i still have this ASUStek (probably a netbook) connected almost 18 hours a day. unfortunatly on when i scan it using my ipod it is "hidden:yes"

 

probably a noob using zone alarm #-o

 

 

 

edit: i just realized (upon finding out my model name) that there are several ways to "HACK" the firmware of my router.. interesting. might be worth a shot.

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i've finally found what i'm looking for:

 

 

 

http://www.sveasoft.com/modules/phpBB2/ ... c.php?t=61

 

 

 

does anybody know anything about this? (maybe i should make a new topic)

 

i don't want to brick my router and void my warrenty, at least i've gotten to the next step!

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Yes, you can hack your firmware, and after looking at the documents for this router, it's probably the only option. No, I do not recommend it, since one thing could go very wrong and you'll brick your router.

 

 

 

I didn't see any way to get what you wanted out of the firmware your router has not, but my advice to you is that you find another one of those, just in case, then experiment with it to your hearts' content. This way, if you do botch one, you'll still have a perfectly working one in the end.

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Yes, you can hack your firmware, and after looking at the documents for this router, it's probably the only option. No, I do not recommend it, since one thing could go very wrong and you'll brick your router.

 

 

 

I didn't see any way to get what you wanted out of the firmware your router has not, but my advice to you is that you find another one of those, just in case, then experiment with it to your hearts' content. This way, if you do botch one, you'll still have a perfectly working one in the end.

 

 

 

well hacking my firmware appears to be the only way at this point, however i would only do it if someone was there to help me step by step. the website is quite vague.

 

 

 

this router is (as i mentioned earlier) 4-5 years old. even if i brick it, i can just claim to my parents that this kind of stuff usually happens after 5 years.

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darn it. i can't even ping 2/3 of these devices. they both appear as "hidden" -.-

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