shade_bandyt Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'm planning to raise my ranged skill. Its my primary method for doing my slayer tasks for the next few months probably. And I have like 500 mith bars in my bank and I can make my own ammo. I made bolts before and I still have about 3k of them. But bolts are so stinking slow. Both knives and bolts are the same speed and like 3-4 shots for one bolt fired. I can't possibly see how bolts could possibly have a faster overall damage rate than knives or darts. Since I'm making my own ammo, I'm thinking darts are my best bet, considering that I can make 10 per bar. But knives are slightly more accurate and higher damage, but not enough to justify half the quantity I would end up with. Even though I'm still leaning towards darts, I just want some opinions from experienced rangers. Remember, I'm not making them to sell, and I already have all the materials, so cost and profit isn't an issue. Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampbellMC Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 If you plan on ranging slayer tasks I would go with the Knives, the darts are much more innacurate and that will show when you start doing monsters with higher defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Steel darts are 9GP cheaper, but have the same ranged bonus and ranged str as iron knives. However, darts and knives aren't THAT much faster than bolts as you described. It's 1.5-2x faster, but the accuracy is much higher as is the damage. It's almost like comparing a dragon dagger (not spec) with a GS. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abc1230 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Rune c'bow with broad bolts on RAPID > knives = darts YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Broad bolts are better than most thrown weapons. The thrown weapons that are better get very expensive, however. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_bandyt Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 Remember I'm not buying anything. Broad bolts and buying stuff isn't even part of the question. I'm making my own ranged ammo out of my own mith bars. I just wanted some advice before I start hammerng them out I think I'll make 1k darts and 1k knives and see which one I like using better. I already have over 3k bolts and I don't like them because the crossbow is just too slow. But if I hate knives and darts more then I'll definitely go back to bolts. At least I'll know from first hand experience Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 knives or darts are okay for monsters like yaks that have little to no defense for slayer you are going to be fighting monsters that have fairly good defense so you need to stick with the rune cbow and broad bolts. If your sticking to mithril knives are probably your best bet, the bolts are just too weak. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Remember I'm not buying anything. Broad bolts and buying stuff isn't even part of the question. I'm making my own ranged ammo out of my own mith bars. I just wanted some advice before I start hammerng them out I think I'll make 1k darts and 1k knives and see which one I like using better. I already have over 3k bolts and I don't like them because the crossbow is just too slow. But if I hate knives and darts more then I'll definitely go back to bolts. At least I'll know from first hand experience Opportunity Cost, my friend. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaser17 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 um, do you have 55 slayer yet? because if you do just use broad bolts and sell your mith bars. i would use bolts, knifes arnt accurate enough for monsters with high defence in my opinion. also, i hope you have full void because without it you will find it ALOT harder to train ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_bandyt Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 I have full void, and 60 slayer. I also have 77 smithing. My smithing is that high because I take every opportunity I can to train it. I don't ever sell bars. I used to trade steel bars for cash and ores to make more bars. I also gather almost all my raw materials myself because I like training all my skills (well most). Its my way of playing. I'm not going to buy any ammo, I'm going to smith these bars, and I'm going to make them into ranged ammo since I'm focused on slayer right now and I like using ranged to do my tasks. I'll test out all 3 options myself and see which one I like best. Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 If you going to use bolts at all, sell the ones you have and then get broad bolts. Otherwise darts all the way :thumbsup: Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufosssssssss Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I would use the Knives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm planning to raise my ranged skill. Its my primary method for doing my slayer tasks for the next few months probably. And I have like 500 mith bars in my bank and I can make my own ammo. I made bolts before and I still have about 3k of them. But bolts are so stinking slow. Both knives and bolts are the same speed and like 3-4 shots for one bolt fired. I can't possibly see how bolts could possibly have a faster overall damage rate than knives or darts. Since I'm making my own ammo, I'm thinking darts are my best bet, considering that I can make 10 per bar. But knives are slightly more accurate and higher damage, but not enough to justify half the quantity I would end up with. Even though I'm still leaning towards darts, I just want some opinions from experienced rangers. Remember, I'm not making them to sell, and I already have all the materials, so cost and profit isn't an issue. Bolts are slow but that also means you won't loose them fast. But in exchange for their slow speed you are quite accurate and hit high. Darts and Knifes hits fast and small amount and is not more accurate than bolts, and this also means you will loose them fast. So overall bolts are best, but i would have used Broad bolts (55 slayer needed to use) as they are cheap to buy and as good as a adamant bolt just less accuracy. Why bolts? Most Slayer monsters have big defence, so darts/knifes wouldn't be that great option, but for low defense ones like Greater demons/Dust devils/Bloodvelds it might be smart to use darts/knifes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufosssssssss Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm planning to raise my ranged skill. Its my primary method for doing my slayer tasks for the next few months probably. And I have like 500 mith bars in my bank and I can make my own ammo. I made bolts before and I still have about 3k of them. But bolts are so stinking slow. Both knives and bolts are the same speed and like 3-4 shots for one bolt fired. I can't possibly see how bolts could possibly have a faster overall damage rate than knives or darts. Since I'm making my own ammo, I'm thinking darts are my best bet, considering that I can make 10 per bar. But knives are slightly more accurate and higher damage, but not enough to justify half the quantity I would end up with. Even though I'm still leaning towards darts, I just want some opinions from experienced rangers. Remember, I'm not making them to sell, and I already have all the materials, so cost and profit isn't an issue. Bolts are slow but that also means you won't loose them fast. But in exchange for their slow speed you are quite accurate and hit high. Darts and Knifes hits fast and small amount and is not more accurate than bolts, and this also means you will loose them fast. So overall bolts are best, but i would have used Broad bolts (55 slayer needed to use) as they are cheap to buy and as good as a adamant bolt just less accuracy. Why bolts? Most Slayer monsters have big defence, so darts/knifes wouldn't be that great option, but for low defense ones like Greater demons/Dust devils/Bloodvelds it might be smart to use darts/knifes. Yeah, I never thought about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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