Zaaps1 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 [*:3rk96gf8]Add the Seercull bow in there somewhere - it's useful for making mages spend a turn on using super restore, or crippling those who don't have super restores Ok [*:3rk96gf8]Dragon armor is too high in your tier list; there are better options: strength boosting gear like Bandos or more defensive armor like Barrows Both of the examples you mentioned are ranked higher on the tier list. [*:3rk96gf8]God spells are a bit too high on your tier list; I hardly see anyone use them, and they're outclassed by Ancients Frequency isn't a concern with this list, effectiveness is. The biggest benefit of god spells is access to the modern spellbook, which means charge (bringing the damage equal to ancients), teleblock, etc. [*:3rk96gf8]FoG shields should be in the F2P tier, because only F2P use them They are superior over rune, which is why they are where they are. [*:3rk96gf8]Granite Maul is in Class D? maxed Range/2h'ers could work wonders with it Which one then? [*:3rk96gf8]Knives are stronger than darts; rune knives should be in a higher tier than dragon darts, not the same! Right. Where should they go? [*:3rk96gf8]Add obsidian rings to your list! They're fairly powerful, and have the speed of a shortbow (6) and are one-handed Where should they go? ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 "Of course, there are exceptions to these rules." This means if an item is cheap or doesn't have really high req but still does the job the best of all items in that slot it could belong to that tier. It's debatable and up to Zapp to decide whether it is the exception but I believe it doesn't go with godswords and high level armour because it is used by welfarers and people who want some cheap helm to do the job. Also it doesn't do the job of the best items in that slot. Something like verac's helm or statius full helm is used by alot of hardcore pkers who skull in maxed mage or maxed melee armour want the defence bonuses over the str. I'd also like to request verac helm being updated to Class A. I still think a Neitiznot helm is better then verac's helm. I do agree however that verac's helm needs to be updated. Statius full helm and Verac's Helm both have negative magic bonusses, neitiznot however does not. It's really a multipurpose helmet that can fit many roles very good. Other than that it even has the Str bonus of a statius full helm and the prayer bonus of veracs helm. It only has worser melee defence stats but it has, as I mentioned earlier, a mage defense bonus. I think Neity really deserves that spot in the A-tier. Edit: Noeeees don't bump down xD Yes it is useful but when your risking something like 15M in equipment such as a hybrid does they use the verac helm for the defence bonuses because they want the better chance of not getting hit 70 by an AGS or 50+ by d stone e bolts. Therefore the neit does not fit in with something like full ahrims, mage book, and master wand but it does fit in with the other helms such as berserker and warrior. Wouldn't it make sense for a hybrid to use a neitiznot helm since it has no negative bonusses? Just mentioning. Depends what they are risking if it's a cheaper hybrid with mystic they will use the neit but when you get into risking ten's of mils you start wanting more defensive bonuses so you don't die. Tier A is expensive, high level equipment which is used by the hardcore people and the neit is not used by someone who is going to risk 10M+. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkalphite Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 That's not the point i'm trying to explain. I mean that Neity helm doesn't have any negative bonusses so it is perfect for hybriding? But I do get your point that people who are willing to lose 10m won't make a point of spending that extra few mills on a slightly better helm. But that doesn't stop the neiti helm from being a very good helmet. On The Road To Graardor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 That's not the point i'm trying to explain. I mean that Neity helm doesn't have any negative bonusses so it is perfect for hybriding? But I do get your point that people who are willing to lose 10m won't make a point of spending that extra few mills on a slightly better helm. But that doesn't stop the neiti helm from being a very good helmet. It is a decent helmet but it doesn't belong with bandos, godswords, and maxed mage equipment. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I agree with that. While it's good, it just isn't good enough to compare with other members of the tier. Now, if it was a Slayer Assignment Tier and not PvP, then maybe. Not as it stands though... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderducke Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think crystal bow should be bumped to tier B, but otherwise it is a good list. I assure you this is not a sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think crystal bow should be bumped to tier B, but otherwise it is a good list. Crystal bow is largely outdated. Sure it's 100 ranged bonus, but the dps isn't very good, and if you use it for an extended period of time you'll need to carry 2 so you keep one at 10/10. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderducke Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think crystal bow should be bumped to tier B, but otherwise it is a good list. Crystal bow is largely outdated. Sure it's 100 ranged bonus, but the dps isn't very good, and if you use it for an extended period of time you'll need to carry 2 so you keep one at 10/10. Ha, I guess that's why your making the list and i'm not. Sorry to question your judgement. I guess I just like the Crystal Bow because it's underused. I assure you this is not a sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 you know how I know you play super smash bros? lol :P (ignoring your avatar/sig) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 you know how I know you play super smash bros? lol :P (ignoring your avatar/sig) But of course :lol: In all honesty though, tier lists aren't exclusive to any one game, and one probably already exists for RS, it just isn't formalized. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 you know how I know you play super smash bros? lol :P (ignoring your avatar/sig) But of course :lol: In all honesty though, tier lists aren't exclusive to any one game, and one probably already exists for RS, it just isn't formalized. Yeah, there is a tier list for every single competitive game. I don't think there is one, simply because there's no real need for them... but I guess it could help the uninformed. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_one Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 g maul, anchor, d long all need to be bumped up one level for their ko potential. ss is also an underrated item for ko's, and needs to be bumped up one. zerker and warrior helms should be down one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkana Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think Proselyte's deserves to be bumped up a rank. Sure, it's cheap and only offers adamant level defense, but considering that it offers the highest prayer boost in the game, useful for smiting, piety, chivalry, and protection prayers, and it also requires a long string of quests. Furthermore, when combined with a D mace, the prayer boost goes even higher. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_one Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I think Proselyte's deserves to be bumped up a rank. Sure, it's cheap and only offers adamant level defense, but considering that it offers the highest prayer boost in the game, useful for smiting, piety, chivalry, and protection prayers, and it also requires a long string of quests. Furthermore, when combined with a D mace, the prayer boost goes even higher. most pkers bring super restores and prayer isn't really that big of a deal as getting speced out easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 In PvP, you aren't praying for a long enough time to justify using Prossy over Rune or Barrows. g maul, anchor, d long all need to be bumped up one level for their ko potential. ss is also an underrated item for ko's, and needs to be bumped up one. zerker and warrior helms should be down one. G maul I can understand. Anchor and D long, while they do have KO potential, cannot compete with their rival counterparts, and therefore do not belong in the same tier. Explain how SS is good for KOs please? Will bump down the zerker helm. Warrior helm, however, is really useful for specs, and belongs where it is. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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