99 Construction.. Stealing Creation.. Just a few ?'s..

[ultimatballr]

Well firstly.. I know to use Oak larders until 74 then Oak Doors to 99. And I already know about SC cutting the cost of con in half.. I just don't know how to put that into words.

 

 

 

Currently oak planks cost 520 gp each.

 

 

 

Current con exp: 680,069

 

Exp Necessary: 12,354,362

 

 

 

868 oak larders to 74. (3.61m)

 

then

 

19,897 Oak doors to 99. (103.46m)

 

 

 

I can do the math, I have.. but I do not know anything about SC..

 

 

 

• [*:1rqtlbqc]How many items/hour am I getting? (I believe I remember people saying 3 or 4?)
   
  [*:1rqtlbqc]How many hammers would I need?
   
  [*:1rqtlbqc]Is SC hard to get use to?
   
  [*:1rqtlbqc]In your opinion do you think it is worth it to do SC? Should I just do duo Arma trips for the 103m instead and go without SC?
   
  [*:1rqtlbqc]Which if the above ways would be faster? SC or GWD for $$

 

 

 

Money isn't really a problem because I will be doing hunter and a few other things to get my cash pile up.

[SportsGuy]

Stealing Creation is a pain in the rear if you aren't on the winning side most of the time. It's also a pain in non-skilling games, because you'll inevitably get killed by players who just like to PK there (it's safe, because you can't bring any of your own items in).

 

 

 

It takes a LITTLE getting used to, but it's pretty simple...collect clay, make it into stuff, deposit it into your team's base "clay bank"...collect as much as you can and make it into stuff (basically doubles your contribution points) and hopefully you can get 2 or 3 morphic tools in an hour (20 minute games), unless you're on the team that wins all three that hour which might get you 4 tool "seeds" that you can turn into the hammers.

 

 

 

I don't know much about experience rates for it in construction...I used the tools as fletching knives.

[kingbrooks]

Ok to answer some of your questions, SC is very useful to learn, I got the hang of it in 5mins of play.

 

 

 

I would guesstimate 4.5k points to 99.

 

 

 

You get 24/25 points a round, meaning 72-75 an hour. EDIT: meaning 3.6-3.75 tools an hour.

 

 

 

SC can get tedious, but is generally accepted as being worth it for construction.

 

 

 

I reccomend you join "fast sc" cc if you plan to do mega points.

[ultimatballr]

Thank you both for your answers.

 

 

 

Does anyone else want to take a stab at it or did they hit the nail on the head as far as answering my questions goes?

[All_Is_Great]

Duo arma would probably be faster than getting a few thousand SC points for all the tools needed. Each hammer lasts for 410 oak planks when making doors, so thats 41 doors. When using butlers, I use the human one because the demon butler cannot be used to its full potential due to its fast speed and 26 items carried. Also take into account if you use SC hammers, you also half the cost for your butler.

 

 

 

I can't really make your decision, because duo arma depends on a lot of luck, since my luck isn't good and I dont know about your lsp, it makes it hard to say.

[ultimatballr]

Yea my Arma luck isn't to good either. I am yet to get a hilt but I didn't do a lot of trips probably 15 at the most (counting both solo's and groups) I figured if I hit it hard for a week with my duo partner then we can pull at least 2 hilts not to mention a few armor pieces. Btw if I do duo I will CS not LS. I'll take the 40m from a hilt split over 80m lsp's anyday. I like my cash now not potential cash later.

 

 

 

But thanks for your input it's much appreciated

[D Jay99]

I'm just going to calc this, rather than answering your questions, it's easier that way.

 

 

 

Sc isn't that hard to get used to. If you do non combat sc it takes about 12 minutes/game, so we'll assume 14 mins/game including starting again and stuff. You should be able to average 23 points/game or 98.5 points/hour. So, 5 tools per hour. One sc hammer gives 50k construction xp.

 

 

 

You can use about 3.5k planks/hour making oak doors, or 210k xp/hour without hammers.

 

 

 

25/210 = 0.12, so 7.2 minutes to use an sc hammer. It takes another 14 minutes to get that hammer. You have to bank for hammers too and of course you will mess up once in a while, so that's a total of about 22 minutes for 50k xp, or 136k xp/hour. That 136k xp will cost you 136000/120 = 1133 planks. You have to pay the butler 5k (yeah use the normal butler) every 120 planks, so that adds 40 gp/plank. 1133*560 = 635k. 4.67 gp/xp.

 

Not using hammers it takes 39 minutes to get 136k xp, and that costs you 2266 planks or 1269k. So, you get the same xp in 21 minutes less, at the cost of 634k. So, if you think you can make over 1811k/hour at armadyl, don't use sc hammers. If you use normal sc it will take you 82 minutes for 136k xp, so you save 43 minutes by spending 634k more, 884k/hour.

 

 

 

In short:

 

Using fast sc for the hammers, it's best use use sc hammers. If you use normal sc for the hammers, doing armadyl for the extra money might be worth it. It's not that hard to get used to, about an hour max. If you try it and you don't like it, just go with arma for the money, even if that takes a bit longer.

 

 

 

And, the total cost/time needed:

 

91 hours at a total cost of 57.8m using fast sc.

 

124 hours at a total cost of 57.8m using normal sc.

 

59 hours at a total cost of 115m not using hammers.

[All_Is_Great]

Yea, but you can carry 5 hammers at a time if you use the normal butler for 20 planks.

 

 

 

INV:

 

 

 

$ H S P(n)

 

P P P P

 

P P P P

 

P P P P

 

P P P P

 

P P P P

 

S S S S

 

 

 

H = hammer

 

S = Saw

 

P = planks

 

(n) = noted

 

 

 

that way you only need to bank once every 1 hr +1/2 or so.