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How are we going to deal with Mexican cartels?

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Adios. Sorry, was that racist?

 

 

 

Lmao. =D>

 

 

 

Seriously, saying "crying like a little girl" = sexism? There's being concerned with rights, and then there's pointing the finger and labeling everyone as a bigot. One is much more productive than the other.

 

 

 

Legalizing everything would be a rather poor idea; legalizing pot would be useful in cutting into a major part of the cartels money without causing societal problems in America. Honestly, while marijuana is rather fine; stuff like coke is far too harmful to allow into casual use.

 

 

 

I agree with this. I believe compromises should be made when it comes to the drug debate. Make the hardcore ones like meth and heroin illegal, but make marijuana and the lighter ones legal.

One word. RECIPROCITY.

 

 

 

I hope at least someone gets what I mean :P.

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One word. RECIPROCITY.

 

 

 

I hope at least someone gets what I mean :P.

 

 

 

Think you could explain what you're getting at to us? Looking at the definition, I expect it involves making the laws of one weed-tolerant state applicable to other states, or something like that. As you can probably tell, I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. ^_^;;

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One word. RECIPROCITY.

 

 

 

I hope at least someone gets what I mean :P.

 

 

 

Think you could explain what you're getting at to us? Looking at the definition, I expect it involves making the laws of one weed-tolerant state applicable to other states, or something like that. As you can probably tell, I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. ^_^;;

 

 

 

The movie that quote comes from a movie that every American needs to see, period. It's called "A Clear And Present Danger" and revolves around Colombian drug cartels. Stars Harrison Ford and is one of the Jack Ryan series by Tom Clancy.

 

 

 

RECIPROCITY was a secret operation that took Latino US commandos and dropped them in Colombia to take part in an illegal war against the cartels.

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My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley

Not 100% relevant but I though it was close enough.

 

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I guess I was wrong. Mexico thought that was a pretty good idea, magekillr. Not totally legalized, but decriminalized for personal use.

 

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MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Mexico enacted a controversial law Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging free government treatment for drug dependency.

 

 

 

The law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution when the law goes into effect Friday.

 

 

 

Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory -- although the law does not specify penalties for noncompliance.

 

 

 

Mexican authorities said the change just recognized the long-standing practice here of not prosecuting people caught with small amounts of drugs that they could reasonably claim were for personal use, while setting rules and limits.

 

 

 

Under previous law, possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts. In practice, nobody was prosecuted and sentenced to jail for small-time possession, said Bernardo Espino del Castillo, the coordinator of state offices for the attorney general's office.

 

 

 

"We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he added.

 

 

 

"This person obviously couldn't be charged, not yesterday, not the day before, not a year ago, but the bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion."

 

 

 

In the past, police sometimes hauled suspects to police stations and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.

 

 

 

"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty ... for a practice that was already in place," Espino del Castillo said.

 

 

 

In 2006, the U.S. government publicly criticized a similar bill. Then President Vicente Fox sent that law ? which did not have a mandatory treatment provision ? back to Congress for reconsideration.

 

 

 

The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams -- the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.

 

 

 

The law was approved by Congress before it recessed in late April, and President Felipe Calderon, who is leading a major offensive against drug cartels, waited most of the summer before enacting it.

 

 

 

Calderon's original proposal would have required first-time detainees to complete treatment or face jail time. But the lower house of Congress, where Calderon's party was short of a majority, weakened the bill.

 

 

 

Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people during Calderon's term. In the face of growing domestic drug use, Mexico has increased its focus on prevention and drug treatment.

 

 

 

Sen. Pablo Gomez of the leftist Democratic Revolution Party praised the legislation: "This law achieves the decriminalization of drugs, and in exchange offers government recovery treatment for addicts."

 

 

 

Previously, possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, with some leeway for those considered addicts and caught with smaller amounts. But in practice, relatively few people were prosecuted and sentenced to jail for small-time possession.

 

 

 

While the United States openly expressed concern about the 2006 law, this time around it has been more circumspect.

 

 

 

Asked about the new law in July, U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske said he would adopt a "wait-and-see attitude."

 

"If the sanction becomes completely nonexistent I think that would be a concern, but I actually didn't read quite that level of de facto (decriminalization) in the law," said Kerlikowske, who heads the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy.

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One word. RECIPROCITY.

 

 

 

I hope at least someone gets what I mean :P.

 

 

 

Think you could explain what you're getting at to us? Looking at the definition, I expect it involves making the laws of one weed-tolerant state applicable to other states, or something like that. As you can probably tell, I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. ^_^;;

 

 

 

The movie that quote comes from a movie that every American needs to see, period. It's called "A Clear And Present Danger" and revolves around Colombian drug cartels. Stars Harrison Ford and is one of the Jack Ryan series by Tom Clancy.

 

 

 

RECIPROCITY was a secret operation that took Latino US commandos and dropped them in Colombia to take part in an illegal war against the cartels.

 

 

 

You should read Mark Bowden's 'Killing Pablo' it's an interesting how the Colombia and America fought and eventually killed Pablo Escobar. The passages that hint at the dubious tactics that were alledly employed in the hunt are particularly interesting.

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He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,

and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.

- Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC)

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One word. RECIPROCITY.

 

 

 

I hope at least someone gets what I mean :P.

 

 

 

Think you could explain what you're getting at to us? Looking at the definition, I expect it involves making the laws of one weed-tolerant state applicable to other states, or something like that. As you can probably tell, I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. ^_^;;

 

 

 

The movie that quote comes from a movie that every American needs to see, period. It's called "A Clear And Present Danger" and revolves around Colombian drug cartels. Stars Harrison Ford and is one of the Jack Ryan series by Tom Clancy.

 

 

 

RECIPROCITY was a secret operation that took Latino US commandos and dropped them in Colombia to take part in an illegal war against the cartels.

 

 

 

That sounds like it could be an interesting idea. However, if it's done, it would be best done as an early start to an all-out war on these guys. It would be more than a little difficult to provide support to the group that does this mission, and it's only benefit (element of surprise) will be exhausted in a matter of months. If we wait longer than that, then they'll have recuperated and are ready for us. That will drag out the fighting, and weaken us overall. We'd still win, of course, but there'd be heavier casualties, both civilian and American military. I want to minimize that.

You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579

Aku Soku Zan. - Shinsengumi

You wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.

If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.

Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent.

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