57 summoning while staying under 100 combat?

[nerdboyxxx]

I plan to go Nat runecrafting in the future, and Spirit Graahk is by far the best option for me. Problem is, I have no clue how to gather charms, because all my Summoning levels have been from experience lamps :P. Also, it might seem strange to stay under 100 combat, but I have a reason, but I'd rather keep that close to my chest for now...

 

Anyway, I need to know:

 

* How to gather charms effectively, without getting combat experience or levels

* What minigames I should do to get extra Summoning experience from (other than penguins, which I'll be doing weekly after my mining goal).

* How much it will cost (approximately) from 35 summoning, using whatever charms I can get. I should have around 70M once I start actually training summoning, though, so cost shouldn't be a problem.

 

I'd also appreciate it if anyone could work out how many combat levels I would gain from 35-57 summoning :).

 

Thanks for your help :D.

[aspeeder]

Well just to answer the last part if you gain no other combat levels you will be level 95, so you have some wiggle room to gain some charms through combat.

[atronic92]

With all of you current stats and 57 summoning, your combat level would be 95.

 

If you range or mage monsters for charms, you will only gain combat levels with hitpoints levels. This is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2 extra combat levels, so you would be around 95-97 combat.

 

If range and magic aren't your thing, you could play Soul Wars for charms. Keep in mind that in order to not get combat experience in Soul Wars, you would have to not help your team very much. I don't recommend this option for that reason.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

summon lvls contribute to combat level differently than prayer actually

lets say you're lvl 99 combat

you gain an hp level which brings you up to 100 combat

but then you raise your summoning level from 7 -> 8, you will get 101 combat

 

IE you it is possible to rise 2 combat levels over the course of 1 non-summoning lvl and 1 summoning lvl

 

57 summoning = 7.125 combat lvls, which is rounded down to 7 combat lvls

IE you can get 63 summoning = 7.875 combat lvls which also rounds down to 7 combat lvls

 

SO ANYWAYS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION

35 summoning = 4.375 cmobat lvls = 4 combat lvls

 

if you go 35-57 summoning without lvling other stats, you will gain exactly 3 combat lvls. Regardless of how close you are to reaching a combat lvl right now

[nerdboyxxx]

Well just to answer the last part if you gain no other combat levels you will be level 95, so you have some wiggle room to gain some charms through combat.

 

Okay, thanks for the quick response :).

 

So, if I have 4 combat levels to spare, I can slay for some charms (till I hit 97 combat) then possibly cannon the rest of the tasks? Even though it costs a lot I'll have the cash I think...

 

Assuming that I cannon the tasks, how long will that take? Not including penguins and all that. Of course it will be stimates but I don't really mind, a vague idea will do me :P.

 

Still gotta know how much its gonna cost me (estimate of course) and what minigames give summoning experience, but NO combat experience.

 

... Actually, I forgot about Soul Wars. Is the charm rate worth it there, if I play on a good team? I've never played it before though. And, does it give me combat experience?

 

I don't wanna spend money on skills like range and combat if I don't need to after all :P. I need the rest of the cash for farming.

 

So basically...

 

* Is soul wars worth it?

* If not, how should I gather charms?

* How much will 57 summoning cost me from 35?

 

Thanks again for all the help/responses :).

[nerdboyxxx]

With all of you current stats and 57 summoning, your combat level would be 95.

 

If you range or mage monsters for charms, you will only gain combat levels with hitpoints levels. This is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2 extra combat levels, so you would be around 95-97 combat.

 

If range and magic aren't your thing, you could play Soul Wars for charms. Keep in mind that in order to not get combat experience in Soul Wars, you would have to not help your team very much. I don't recommend this option for that reason.

 

If Soul Wars gives combat experience while playing then I'll have to skip it. Oh well. I'll probably buy a cannon and go get the charms that way. Why does a skill that provides so many benefits for skilling have to be absed on combat to train :wall:.

 

summon lvls contribute to combat level differently than prayer actually

lets say you're lvl 99 combat

you gain an hp level which brings you up to 100 combat

but then you raise your summoning level from 7 -> 8, you will get 101 combat

 

IE you it is possible to rise 2 combat levels over the course of 1 non-summoning lvl and 1 summoning lvl

 

57 summoning = 7.125 combat lvls, which is rounded down to 7 combat lvls

IE you can get 63 summoning = 7.875 combat lvls which also rounds down to 7 combat lvls

 

SO ANYWAYS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION

35 summoning = 4.375 cmobat lvls = 4 combat lvls

 

if you go 35-57 summoning without lvling other stats, you will gain exactly 3 combat lvls. Regardless of how close you are to reaching a combat lvl right now

 

So I can spare one combat level if I get 57 summoning? Dang thats cutting it quite close :?.

 

I guess I'll have to cannon slayer tasks for charms until I get enough for 57, but I'll probably do Penguins and XP lamps before that to lower the cost for cannonballs and the cannon itself. If I get 70M, at least 60M is going into farming anyway :P. So I need to make sure I'm not spending too much.

[Furah]

With all of you current stats and 57 summoning, your combat level would be 95.

 

If you range or mage monsters for charms, you will only gain combat levels with hitpoints levels. This is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2 extra combat levels, so you would be around 95-97 combat.

 

If range and magic aren't your thing, you could play Soul Wars for charms. Keep in mind that in order to not get combat experience in Soul Wars, you would have to not help your team very much. I don't recommend this option for that reason.

 

If Soul Wars gives combat experience while playing then I'll have to skip it. Oh well. I'll probably buy a cannon and go get the charms that way. Why does a skill that provides so many benefits for skilling have to be absed on combat to train :wall:.

You can do soul wars without gaining any combat xp. 10hp pures do it. Use any random rewards on the xp lamp and use on summoning.

[nerdboyxxx]

With all of you current stats and 57 summoning, your combat level would be 95.

 

If you range or mage monsters for charms, you will only gain combat levels with hitpoints levels. This is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2 extra combat levels, so you would be around 95-97 combat.

 

If range and magic aren't your thing, you could play Soul Wars for charms. Keep in mind that in order to not get combat experience in Soul Wars, you would have to not help your team very much. I don't recommend this option for that reason.

 

If Soul Wars gives combat experience while playing then I'll have to skip it. Oh well. I'll probably buy a cannon and go get the charms that way. Why does a skill that provides so many benefits for skilling have to be absed on combat to train :wall:.

You can do soul wars without gaining any combat xp. 10hp pures do it. Use any random rewards on the xp lamp and use on summoning.

 

Oh, so SW doesn' give Combat experience when playing? If it doesn't then I'll just use that for my charms. *facepalm*.

 

I'll double-check because I have two different answers, but I should be covered for charms anyways :P.

 

Thanks for all the help guys!

[Cptbaker08]

With all of you current stats and 57 summoning, your combat level would be 95.

 

If you range or mage monsters for charms, you will only gain combat levels with hitpoints levels. This is unlikely to be more than 1 or 2 extra combat levels, so you would be around 95-97 combat.

 

If range and magic aren't your thing, you could play Soul Wars for charms. Keep in mind that in order to not get combat experience in Soul Wars, you would have to not help your team very much. I don't recommend this option for that reason.

 

If Soul Wars gives combat experience while playing then I'll have to skip it. Oh well. I'll probably buy a cannon and go get the charms that way. Why does a skill that provides so many benefits for skilling have to be absed on combat to train :wall:.

You can do soul wars without gaining any combat xp. 10hp pures do it. Use any random rewards on the xp lamp and use on summoning.

 

Oh, so SW doesn' give Combat experience when playing? If it doesn't then I'll just use that for my charms. *facepalm*.

 

I'll double-check because I have two different answers, but I should be covered for charms anyways :P.

 

Thanks for all the help guys!

The only time you get combat exp is if you fight. If you heal other players or bury bones or whatever you need to do to keep from going inactive that isn't related to combat will work. You can also LS creatures with players and just not fight. You still get some charms that way, but not as many if you killed them on your own.

[nerdboyxxx]

Never mind, you do gain combat experience while playing... I'll probably go in and range for SW then lol and take the hitpoints experience. As long as I don't gain two combat levels while I'm there I should be fine :lol:.

 

I got all the charms, cost, etc. Worked out, so I'll probably just go to SW with some iron knives and help out the team a little... not that I'll be able to do much. In other words, I'll be a semi-freeloader, but I can't do anything about that :(. I feel slack lol.

[Cptbaker08]

Never mind, you do gain combat experience while playing... I'll probably go in and range for SW then lol and take the hitpoints experience. As long as I don't gain two combat levels while I'm there I should be fine :lol:.

 

I got all the charms, cost, etc. Worked out, so I'll probably just go to SW with some iron knives and help out the team a little... not that I'll be able to do much. In other words, I'll be a semi-freeloader, but I can't do anything about that :(. I feel slack lol.

I suggest you read my post again. There are a few ways to not get exp.

[Sinkhan]

To be perfectly honest, I'm currently level 58 summoning and have only ever made 2 pouches. Penguins and random event lamps are your friend :^_^:

[Aiel]

dont forget tears

[nerdboyxxx]

Never mind, you do gain combat experience while playing... I'll probably go in and range for SW then lol and take the hitpoints experience. As long as I don't gain two combat levels while I'm there I should be fine :lol:.

 

I got all the charms, cost, etc. Worked out, so I'll probably just go to SW with some iron knives and help out the team a little... not that I'll be able to do much. In other words, I'll be a semi-freeloader, but I can't do anything about that :(. I feel slack lol.

I suggest you read my post again. There are a few ways to not get exp.

 

Sorry, posted that just as you posted and closed the window :lol:. If all these ways work and stop me from getting booted, then I'll do them :). Thanks for the help.

 

To be perfectly honest, I'm currently level 58 summoning and have only ever made 2 pouches. Penguins and random event lamps are your friend :^_^:

 

Definitely going to be doing penguins to make the experience faster, and all my exp. lamps go toward summoning :D. Although getting it just on penguins and xp lamps would take quite a while :P.

 

dont forget tears

 

I almost forot about tears *facepalm*. Summoning isn't my lowest skill though :(. Eh, I'll probably get all my other skills higher than it anyway :P. Thanks for the helpful reminder :).

 

Okay, looks like I'm all set so far. I can work out cost and all that other stuff later, but I have all the info I need at the moment (like how many charms I'll need, how amny games I need to win and how much zeal I require, etc.). SW mixed with weekly penguins and some xp lamps should (hopefully) take little morethan a month for 57. Thanks again for all the help, but if you have any more info do share :).