Clans dyeing or just an Illusion?

[Amateurnoob]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

[20Rice04]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

[CruelKiller]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

At least we dont spam on w141 :thumbup:

[Amateurnoob]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

 

I'm confused, you realize that country clans also consist of people from a bunch of different officials, just look at Clan Europe. Come on now, do your research, also I had no idea that TPR was part of TWR, is that true? Show me proof, and you're calling TKO BLITZ a joke? When they're one of the best matched fighters I've ever seen whether it be clan/team. So what are you talking about it being a joke? I'd like to see Bella or Bey's response to that.

[20Rice04]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

 

I'm confused, you realize that country clans also consist of people from a bunch of different officials, just look at Clan Europe. Come on now, do your research, also I had no idea that TPR was part of TWR, is that true? Show me proof, and you're calling TKO BLITZ a joke? When they're one of the best matched fighters I've ever seen whether it be clan/team. So what are you talking about it being a joke? I'd like to see Bella or Bey's response to that.

 

I never said that Tpr was on TWR, I jsut said clans LIKE them. Country clans are ok4y d00d becos everyone is entitled to be proud of deyr c00ntry, even if it is a continental clan. And Bella's response would probs be hey Rhys. But yea, TKO Blitz-0 why can't they just stick corruption and be done with it, team just seem to be over indulgent and unecessary. You also may want to put a leash on cruelkiller before she embarasses herself as we've (A) only heard that comment liek a zillion times and (B) We don't advertise on w141? I'd like some pr00f of da last time we were there please prof :D Don't hate us cause we do what we l0v3, I've never flamed DK cause they crashed a war- it's just their out look on the game and I do not think that I have the right to judge other peoples' outlooks and opinions when I know full well that mine are also flawed.

[kuru72]

My answer for the questions are the same as Dandaman's to be honest.

 

Whats happening to clans, particularly in TWR?

Ever since TWR became team central, most clans left Tip.it. Let's face it, no legitimate clan with a committed member base is going to enjoy warring random teams of friends in a "W141 CWA" atmosphere, which is the reaction you will get if you mention TWR to any of the top clans. This infestation of teams doesn't leave the committed clanner much of an option, either get out of Tip.it and join a legitimate clan on Zybez OR become a random teamer like everyone else. You can imagine the effect this is having on the clan world, since most of the committed clanners are joining the Top 10, other clans don't stand much of a chance at surviving. I mean just take a look me, I am here to represent a legitimate clan here on TWR and look at the welcome I have received. I've been treated like a government inspector who just walked into a black market and am still waiting to receive approval into TWR. I wouldn't be surprised if the clan I represent is denied TWR access, it is blatantly obvious that TWR begun to display favoritism towards teams and discrimination against clans the moment Loge packed his bags and took off, I guess TWR clans shouldn't have taken him for granted. So you can understand why most legitimate clans don't appreciate the major team atmosphere here because it doesn't make clans feel welcome, however I also believe there are a real clans in TWR which are worth warring and that's the reason I am here.

 

Is the formation of Teams having a impact on Clans?

The formation of teams is detrimental to the very foundation of clans to say the least, why else would the head warlords of Divine Forces and The Titans disapprove of their members joining teams? More recently, why do you suppose BK would enforce the "No Teams allowed" rule? Think about it, why would one of the oldest clans on Runescape kick teamers when they already have their roots sown deep within the clan world? Nothing much to say really, the answer to this question pretty damn obvious.

 

lolwut? Please stop trying to act smart if you don't know what you are talking about. Calling other TWR clans/teams "141 based" is just a joke coming from you since your clan is 99% 141 based and doesn't even know what "tanking" is.

 

And btw, why would you join the TWR community if you hate it so much? Tbh, I can still remember you guys trying to turn food/pot/pray off in your TWR war declaration topic vs Downfall (couple months ago)

 

Also, you saying that teams are "141 based" made me laugh. I mean, there's a lot of teams out there such as SE, LND, TKO that has gone really far and successful in the clan world.

[20Rice04]

My answer for the questions are the same as Dandaman's to be honest.

 

Whats happening to clans, particularly in TWR?

Ever since TWR became team central, most clans left Tip.it. Let's face it, no legitimate clan with a committed member base is going to enjoy warring random teams of friends in a "W141 CWA" atmosphere, which is the reaction you will get if you mention TWR to any of the top clans. This infestation of teams doesn't leave the committed clanner much of an option, either get out of Tip.it and join a legitimate clan on Zybez OR become a random teamer like everyone else. You can imagine the effect this is having on the clan world, since most of the committed clanners are joining the Top 10, other clans don't stand much of a chance at surviving. I mean just take a look me, I am here to represent a legitimate clan here on TWR and look at the welcome I have received. I've been treated like a government inspector who just walked into a black market and am still waiting to receive approval into TWR. I wouldn't be surprised if the clan I represent is denied TWR access, it is blatantly obvious that TWR begun to display favoritism towards teams and discrimination against clans the moment Loge packed his bags and took off, I guess TWR clans shouldn't have taken him for granted. So you can understand why most legitimate clans don't appreciate the major team atmosphere here because it doesn't make clans feel welcome, however I also believe there are a real clans in TWR which are worth warring and that's the reason I am here.

 

Is the formation of Teams having a impact on Clans?

The formation of teams is detrimental to the very foundation of clans to say the least, why else would the head warlords of Divine Forces and The Titans disapprove of their members joining teams? More recently, why do you suppose BK would enforce the "No Teams allowed" rule? Think about it, why would one of the oldest clans on Runescape kick teamers when they already have their roots sown deep within the clan world? Nothing much to say really, the answer to this question pretty damn obvious.

 

lolwut? Please stop trying to act smart if you don't know what you are talking about. Calling other TWR clans/teams "141 based" is just a joke coming from you since your clan is 99% 141 based and doesn't even know what "tanking" is.

 

And btw, why would you join the TWR community if you hate it so much? Tbh, I can still remember you guys trying to turn food/pot/pray off in your TWR war declaration topic vs Downfall (couple months ago)

 

Also, you saying that teams are "141 based" made me laugh. I mean, there's a lot of teams out there such as SE, LND, TKO that has gone really far and successful in the clan world.

 

if dey're da same as Dans den why did you p0st if he asked you guise to stop coz you wuz just feeding the trolls :o

 

and we've not been in TWR for ageeeeeeeeeeeeeeez now so don't claim it waz a couple of months ago :lol:

[Amateurnoob]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

 

I'm confused, you realize that country clans also consist of people from a bunch of different officials, just look at Clan Europe. Come on now, do your research, also I had no idea that TPR was part of TWR, is that true? Show me proof, and you're calling TKO BLITZ a joke? When they're one of the best matched fighters I've ever seen whether it be clan/team. So what are you talking about it being a joke? I'd like to see Bella or Bey's response to that.

 

I never said that Tpr was on TWR, I jsut said clans LIKE them. Country clans are ok4y d00d becos everyone is entitled to be proud of deyr c00ntry, even if it is a continental clan. And Bella's response would probs be hey Rhys. But yea, TKO Blitz-0 why can't they just stick corruption and be done with it, team just seem to be over indulgent and unecessary. You also may want to put a leash on cruelkiller before she embarasses herself as we've (A) only heard that comment liek a zillion times and (B) We don't advertise on w141? I'd like some pr00f of da last time we were there please prof :D Don't hate us cause we do what we l0v3, I've never flamed DK cause they crashed a war- it's just their out look on the game and I do not think that I have the right to judge other peoples' outlooks and opinions when I know full well that mine are also flawed.

 

It seems to me, as I stated before, people have friends in other clans, Downfall has friends in True 0wnage, Downfall has friends in LTH, Downfall has friends in many clans, we can all come together within TPR, and war as a group of friends, it seems that you are anti-social, and would rather not have other people be happy, These teams don't even pertain to you so why do you care so much about them? I bet every team on TWR can beat Titans Revolution hands down. And don't compare teams on TWR to teams that aren't on TWR, TPR is a place where we can go and do anything we like and have fun, but then theres serious warring teams like TKO, I'd like to see you beat either tbh.

[20Rice04]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

 

I'm confused, you realize that country clans also consist of people from a bunch of different officials, just look at Clan Europe. Come on now, do your research, also I had no idea that TPR was part of TWR, is that true? Show me proof, and you're calling TKO BLITZ a joke? When they're one of the best matched fighters I've ever seen whether it be clan/team. So what are you talking about it being a joke? I'd like to see Bella or Bey's response to that.

 

I never said that Tpr was on TWR, I jsut said clans LIKE them. Country clans are ok4y d00d becos everyone is entitled to be proud of deyr c00ntry, even if it is a continental clan. And Bella's response would probs be hey Rhys. But yea, TKO Blitz-0 why can't they just stick corruption and be done with it, team just seem to be over indulgent and unecessary. You also may want to put a leash on cruelkiller before she embarasses herself as we've (A) only heard that comment liek a zillion times and (B) We don't advertise on w141? I'd like some pr00f of da last time we were there please prof :D Don't hate us cause we do what we l0v3, I've never flamed DK cause they crashed a war- it's just their out look on the game and I do not think that I have the right to judge other peoples' outlooks and opinions when I know full well that mine are also flawed.

 

It seems to me, as I stated before, people have friends in other clans, Downfall has friends in True 0wnage, Downfall has friends in LTH, Downfall has friends in many clans, we can all come together within TPR, and war as a group of friends, it seems that you are anti-social, and would rather not have other people be happy, These teams don't even pertain to you so why do you care so much about them? I bet every team on TWR can beat Titans Revolution hands down. And don't compare teams on TWR to teams that aren't on TWR, TPR is a place where we can go and do anything we like and have fun, but then theres serious warring teams like TKO, I'd like to see you beat either tbh.

 

*sigh* and there you go with your holier than thou attitue yet again, we're all levels d00d, hwo d0 you pr4pose w3 b34t 50 120+:o :( oh wells. I don't see why you're hating on me so much d00d, I never done nuffink wrong :o every time I argue a valid point against yours you just seem to change teh topic. I have friends from all over teh place, But I just respect the fact that I am in someone else's clan and their rules are no form of multiclanning whatsoever, that incl00dz teamz. Nothing wrong with showing them s0m3 respect.

[Amateurnoob]

Why on earth would I be mad? I always have evidence for my claims, your the one who can't back up your ridiculous statements. Having a conversation with you is like talking to my dog, except my dog is smart enough to know when to keep his trap shut.

 

Anyway to get back on topic, Indianishere is correct to presume that most of the legit clans here are slumping. My theory was based on teams being the primary catalyst, but by the looks of things everybody obviously doesn't agree. That is fine in itself, I'm happy to fight off a community of flamers who can't handle the truth, especially since joining a legit clan is far beyond them. I say just remove all the teams from TWR, why would the same people under different Runeheads want a rank for the names of their teams anyway? It's not like they want be held responsible for anything, they probably don't even care about the image and stature of their team names, the people who do are in proper clans not random W141 style teams.

 

I wonder if you have read the rules, you cannot participate in a clan/team war on TWR, its one or the other, I've never known anyone to choose team>clan, therefore teams just give extra wars. On top of that if we're getting rid of teams, we need to get rid of country clans, Goodbye Hp, Goodbye DH, there goes half of the TWR clans, at this point in time, I will see TWR as worthless, and I will pull Downfall out, bye bye most active clan 2009. If we go and all these country clans and teams go I can guarantee other clans will surely leave and TWR will become inactive. I think someone is trying to kill TWR.

 

titansrev nice ragequit, where you mad?

 

Nice flame bait :thumbup:

 

Your clan is more 141 than any clan/team here. Your the only one that asks for no food no pot no prayer wars. Your the only one that has homeworld as 141.

 

1. show me a war where we've had food pots and prayer off? :ohnoes:

 

2. Having your homeworld set as W141 does not mean anything other than most of our members were originally from clan wars and still enjoy it there. I'm more than certain that players like Vannaka enjoy clan warring a much as me and he probably still does it on a regular basis; do you flame him for that? (Sorry if this offended you Van d00d but idk why it w00d, just an 3xampl0rz)

 

Furthermore a homeworld doesn't really MEAN anything- it's just where you'll probably primarily find most of our members at any given time which is NOT the case anymore.

 

You remind me of a poor person who has became rich and left those he once called friends rotting in the gutter. Just because you have better stats than those around you in a game does not mean you need abandon those whom you once called friend. :shame:

 

As for you my dear friend, When Downfall wanted a war with you, you made us turn either pray or food off, we chose prayer, I L O L E D so hard, that you were so stubborn about the wars, you guys had absolutely no KO power and we lol'd at every 1 hit we had, appreciated the free points and 5 minute war though, CBF to go find it in archives feel free to though.

 

so you mean that we didn't have food and prayer and pots off all at once, just like I asked? Oh well that's okay then :) idk if you realised but we were just stubborn about those things becaue we couldn't be bothered warring you :)

 

and sorry about our defeat and k0s, because Downfall was born a clan that was just AWESOME, they've still never lost a war let alone ever had one of their members k0d, as I said earlier, you've forgotten where you came from; you scrutinise and critisize those who aren't as 'good' as you........

 

but hey, thanks for proving my point.

 

and @ Dan, fanks :) :wub:

 

Lol, Nah dude I'm from 141, and I'm not tearing down TR, just the fact that everything these people have said are true, and so now this brings up a new point, now that you're on TWR, and saying teams make it bad, aren't clans that as you stated you couldn't be bothered warring us, therefore you are just wasting everyones time in the TWR community, as you will pick who you want to war, yet when you're declared on you won't be easy going with your rules, I guess that's cool but it's clans like this that make TWR activity slump.

 

 

Also, if you hadn't noticed Dan didn't side with you, he basically anti-trolled your leaders troll.

 

When did I say I agreed with the views of my leader? I am an independant thinker btw, and I was thanking Dan for trying to stop the trolling.... it's not a crime to be polite when someone does a good turn.

 

And it's not country clans etc like you mentioned, it's jokey clans like TPR, TKO Blitz etc- sure most of them clan war and peekay like clans but if you really look at it it's just like mashing up different parts of clans into another clan. And since you get those p0w3r hungry d00dz out their, a lot of them will manipulate their trusted positions of power, if they're in control of the majority of a team this is obviously going to be to the detrement of any clans involved.

 

also, dat was over a year ago d00d, things change, we just want to keep our heads down and get on with things :)

 

I don't entirely agree with the principals behind teams- but I'm not an uber hater of them. My dear friend Lord Malkor however is a very outspoken person, and he holds views which he is entirely entitled to hold. Although he'd probably prefer a civilised debate on the subject, since these are forums, more often than not it just deteriorates into childish trolling or plain flaming. I'm not the kind of guy to go around and say DON'T JOIN TEAMZ DEY IS EVIL, but at the same time I'm not going to stop someone doing that. Think of Those crazy people on street corners telling us the end is nigh, you don't walk up and argue with them, it's just pointless, Just let them do their thing and you do yours and all will be well, that us unless of course the end truly is nigh... :)

 

I'm confused, you realize that country clans also consist of people from a bunch of different officials, just look at Clan Europe. Come on now, do your research, also I had no idea that TPR was part of TWR, is that true? Show me proof, and you're calling TKO BLITZ a joke? When they're one of the best matched fighters I've ever seen whether it be clan/team. So what are you talking about it being a joke? I'd like to see Bella or Bey's response to that.

 

I never said that Tpr was on TWR, I jsut said clans LIKE them. Country clans are ok4y d00d becos everyone is entitled to be proud of deyr c00ntry, even if it is a continental clan. And Bella's response would probs be hey Rhys. But yea, TKO Blitz-0 why can't they just stick corruption and be done with it, team just seem to be over indulgent and unecessary. You also may want to put a leash on cruelkiller before she embarasses herself as we've (A) only heard that comment liek a zillion times and (B) We don't advertise on w141? I'd like some pr00f of da last time we were there please prof :D Don't hate us cause we do what we l0v3, I've never flamed DK cause they crashed a war- it's just their out look on the game and I do not think that I have the right to judge other peoples' outlooks and opinions when I know full well that mine are also flawed.

 

It seems to me, as I stated before, people have friends in other clans, Downfall has friends in True 0wnage, Downfall has friends in LTH, Downfall has friends in many clans, we can all come together within TPR, and war as a group of friends, it seems that you are anti-social, and would rather not have other people be happy, These teams don't even pertain to you so why do you care so much about them? I bet every team on TWR can beat Titans Revolution hands down. And don't compare teams on TWR to teams that aren't on TWR, TPR is a place where we can go and do anything we like and have fun, but then theres serious warring teams like TKO, I'd like to see you beat either tbh.

 

*sigh* and there you go with your holier than thou attitue yet again, we're all levels d00d, hwo d0 you pr4pose w3 b34t 50 120+:o :( oh wells. I don't see why you're hating on me so much d00d, I never done nuffink wrong :o every time I argue a valid point against yours you just seem to change teh topic. I have friends from all over teh place, But I just respect the fact that I am in someone else's clan and their rules are no form of multiclanning whatsoever, that incl00dz teamz. Nothing wrong with showing them s0m3 respect.

 

Pretty sure I haven't changed any subject, I've counteracted every point you've thrown and demolished it with the hand of righteousness, feel free to point out subject change, anyways why are you speaking like that on a serious thread? you are making yourself look dumb, and I do not find it funny. Nor does anyone else, Your points can't be taken seriously when you speak like that. Anyways I'm not hating on you I'm simply trying to get you to realize teams help these war rankings strive. This is a place for wars, and that's what we all want.. wars. By taking them out we are limiting our selection and it will just eventually die out. Open your eyes.

[kuru72]

My answer for the questions are the same as Dandaman's to be honest.

 

Whats happening to clans, particularly in TWR?

Ever since TWR became team central, most clans left Tip.it. Let's face it, no legitimate clan with a committed member base is going to enjoy warring random teams of friends in a "W141 CWA" atmosphere, which is the reaction you will get if you mention TWR to any of the top clans. This infestation of teams doesn't leave the committed clanner much of an option, either get out of Tip.it and join a legitimate clan on Zybez OR become a random teamer like everyone else. You can imagine the effect this is having on the clan world, since most of the committed clanners are joining the Top 10, other clans don't stand much of a chance at surviving. I mean just take a look me, I am here to represent a legitimate clan here on TWR and look at the welcome I have received. I've been treated like a government inspector who just walked into a black market and am still waiting to receive approval into TWR. I wouldn't be surprised if the clan I represent is denied TWR access, it is blatantly obvious that TWR begun to display favoritism towards teams and discrimination against clans the moment Loge packed his bags and took off, I guess TWR clans shouldn't have taken him for granted. So you can understand why most legitimate clans don't appreciate the major team atmosphere here because it doesn't make clans feel welcome, however I also believe there are a real clans in TWR which are worth warring and that's the reason I am here.

 

Is the formation of Teams having a impact on Clans?

The formation of teams is detrimental to the very foundation of clans to say the least, why else would the head warlords of Divine Forces and The Titans disapprove of their members joining teams? More recently, why do you suppose BK would enforce the "No Teams allowed" rule? Think about it, why would one of the oldest clans on Runescape kick teamers when they already have their roots sown deep within the clan world? Nothing much to say really, the answer to this question pretty damn obvious.

 

lolwut? Please stop trying to act smart if you don't know what you are talking about. Calling other TWR clans/teams "141 based" is just a joke coming from you since your clan is 99% 141 based and doesn't even know what "tanking" is.

 

And btw, why would you join the TWR community if you hate it so much? Tbh, I can still remember you guys trying to turn food/pot/pray off in your TWR war declaration topic vs Downfall (couple months ago)

 

Also, you saying that teams are "141 based" made me laugh. I mean, there's a lot of teams out there such as SE, LND, TKO that has gone really far and successful in the clan world.

 

if dey're da same as Dans den why did you p0st if he asked you guise to stop coz you wuz just feeding the trolls :o

 

and we've not been in TWR for ageeeeeeeeeeeeeeez now so don't claim it waz a couple of months ago :lol:

 

@1st sentence: why would I stop if some official of a 141 clan calls my clan/team 141 based?

 

@2nd sentence: What's your point? I don't see a reason why you and everyone else would care?

[Kimberly]

What started out as broad conversation quickly became attacks on individuals and their clans.

 

Unless you can relate these things to the topic at hand and discuss this topic in a civil manner, warnings will be handed out.

[20Rice04]

My answer for the questions are the same as Dandaman's to be honest.

 

Whats happening to clans, particularly in TWR?

Ever since TWR became team central, most clans left Tip.it. Let's face it, no legitimate clan with a committed member base is going to enjoy warring random teams of friends in a "W141 CWA" atmosphere, which is the reaction you will get if you mention TWR to any of the top clans. This infestation of teams doesn't leave the committed clanner much of an option, either get out of Tip.it and join a legitimate clan on Zybez OR become a random teamer like everyone else. You can imagine the effect this is having on the clan world, since most of the committed clanners are joining the Top 10, other clans don't stand much of a chance at surviving. I mean just take a look me, I am here to represent a legitimate clan here on TWR and look at the welcome I have received. I've been treated like a government inspector who just walked into a black market and am still waiting to receive approval into TWR. I wouldn't be surprised if the clan I represent is denied TWR access, it is blatantly obvious that TWR begun to display favoritism towards teams and discrimination against clans the moment Loge packed his bags and took off, I guess TWR clans shouldn't have taken him for granted. So you can understand why most legitimate clans don't appreciate the major team atmosphere here because it doesn't make clans feel welcome, however I also believe there are a real clans in TWR which are worth warring and that's the reason I am here.

 

Is the formation of Teams having a impact on Clans?

The formation of teams is detrimental to the very foundation of clans to say the least, why else would the head warlords of Divine Forces and The Titans disapprove of their members joining teams? More recently, why do you suppose BK would enforce the "No Teams allowed" rule? Think about it, why would one of the oldest clans on Runescape kick teamers when they already have their roots sown deep within the clan world? Nothing much to say really, the answer to this question pretty damn obvious.

 

lolwut? Please stop trying to act smart if you don't know what you are talking about. Calling other TWR clans/teams "141 based" is just a joke coming from you since your clan is 99% 141 based and doesn't even know what "tanking" is.

 

And btw, why would you join the TWR community if you hate it so much? Tbh, I can still remember you guys trying to turn food/pot/pray off in your TWR war declaration topic vs Downfall (couple months ago)

 

Also, you saying that teams are "141 based" made me laugh. I mean, there's a lot of teams out there such as SE, LND, TKO that has gone really far and successful in the clan world.

 

if dey're da same as Dans den why did you p0st if he asked you guise to stop coz you wuz just feeding the trolls :o

 

and we've not been in TWR for ageeeeeeeeeeeeeeez now so don't claim it waz a couple of months ago :lol:

 

@1st sentence: why would I stop if some official of a 141 clan calls my clan/team 141 based?

 

@2nd sentence: What's your point? I don't see a reason why you and everyone else would care?

 

difference from a clan being w141 based and a clan that has arisen from w141. Your clan was a direct consequence of w141 tbh.... Jc started T0 with other members who had left Legendz, Legendz was started By infinitone, Jc joined his forums as they were good friends at the time, Infinitone originally came from w141, no one will ever forget the "tactical ownage" slogan :D :lol:

 

anyway my personal opinion in the matter - since no one has asked it yet and I've just spent ages trying to defend someone elses's beliefs - Is that there are a number of things responsible for a decline in clanning.

 

Since there was once such a variety of a clans people stopped feeling the need to create new ones, it would also be more difficult to muscle your way up into the clan world when you could just join a well established one with just a few requirements. Admittedly I also agree that teams have somewhat compounded this problem- the annoying thing about teams however is that they're lower maintenance than an actual clan- nobody in them tends to take the as seriously as the main clan they're in.

 

Furthermore I'm thinking that people are leaving more quickly than they can now be recruited. Although everyone's always claiming this and tbh it's jsut a fluxuation rather than anything which is showing exponential decay :lol:

 

We've also seen an expansion in the world of Runescape which draws players into scenario's of entire escapism so there's really no need to actually interact with other players- the ge just about killed that, now I can guarantee you that if you were dedicated enough you could max your skillz and xp without uttering a single word if you wanted. That said there's also been an increase in the number of team based games especially clan wars and castle wars so the push isn't in either direction.

 

One problem that can arise here however is the lack of 'networking' between players in clans and players outside of clans. Clans usually aren't willing to take people with little experience or low combat/skillz so recruiting gets harder when requirements go up. Additionally a high player quitting only takes a couple of hours or even maybe minutes- but it takes a lot longer to train up to that level, this means that for every 126 leaving there's unlikely to be another one ready to pop in and fill his place.

 

The aspect of clans closing also makes getting challenges for other clans ahrder. Imagine your main rival closes... this will adversly affect you as your clan no longer has the same challenge of that main rival. It also releases a large quantity of new players into the clan world and for the most part they want to stick together; as such they often join one clan and this boosts their numbers and power incredibly. An overpowered clan is a chore in itself however because if nobody can beat you then nobody wants to war you- thankfully however a variety of different kinds fo wars keeps these things in constant movement.

 

I also remember the time that people were claiming that NH clans were responsible for the clan world 'falling apart' hoiwever this like teams is jsut a fad and a scapegoat- I think they're jsut things that're always changing and nothing can be done about it. They're no more of a threat than the theory of The Clan Within Clans :D

 

Overall I believe the clanning world's reached a level of equilibrium whereby it's not increasing but that really doesn't means it's dying either. It's more a constant flux between two extremes - good hunting season and bad hunting season. Only omething liek the opening of more MMORPGS like Runescape is ever going to heavily upset this equilibrium.... just my opinion but d00dz :)

 

+1 Jack.