applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I like the idea of an abyssal whip. It's a heavy hitting, fast, hard to wield, hard to get weapon. The whip requires an attack of 70 to wield, 85 slayer to obtain as a drop. At first blush, I thought that it was a great way to let high-leveled players upgrade equipment past dragon. But now we have level, what, 60s with 70 attack (sparing their other combat stats) and the single mil to buy a whip on the ge using them. They're totally overpowered for their level, and are probably stronger than me (cl 86, dragon longsword my main weapon). If anyone else wants to make a similar rant, feel free to. Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthorm Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Pures are terrible at training and doing bosses, they have a huge handicap in playing the actual game. So nah I think is fair, gaining offense power at losing gameplay and defense. [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Pures are terrible at training and doing bosses, they have a huge handicap in playing the actual game. So nah I think is fair, gaining offense power at losing gameplay and defense. pretty much this. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ok. I've still seen people lower leveled than me who are much more effective and I blame the equipment. Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Wait.. Single mil? What time do you live in? The whip is 3.5m mid. Anyway, with a whip in the 60 combats, they'll be what? 1 defence? Losing out on parts of the game there. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthorm Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ok. I've still seen people lower leveled than me who are much more effective and I blame the equipment. At what? I mean only pvping is really the only thing you are looking at. [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I haven't seen them do anything else. Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthorm Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I haven't seen them do anything else. Of course, I mean that is the reason people make pures right? What is the point of making pures if they are going to be the same as everyone else? [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 & they still aren't significantly better off in-game than I am? Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 They're geared towards being better at certain aspects of the game.. Seriously, that's the point behind them. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephy Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Problem is you're comparing the whip to a dragon longsword, which pretty much everyone considers an inferior weapon.The whip is meant to be a better dragon scimitar, and while it has a significant advantage, it's not nearly as overpowered as the longsword may have you think.Pures, they're another issue entirely.Also, if you want to talk about overpowered equipment, think claws or ags or something. Disclaimer: The above is probably inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 this is a l2p issue 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Problem is you're comparing the whip to a dragon longsword, which pretty much everyone considers an inferior weapon.The whip is meant to be a better dragon scimitar, and while it has a significant advantage, it's not nearly as overpowered as the longsword may have you think.Pures, they're another issue entirely.Also, if you want to talk about overpowered equipment, think claws or ags or something. How did the dragon longsword suddenly become inferior?I really don't know overpowered equipment (I don't have any). this is a l2p issue l2p? Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalafai Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 ...learn to play? But anyways, this just shows how silly strength pures are. You can get that much, and more strength, just by having the attack levels to equip a higher weapon with a bonus higher than the strength level you'd otherwise shoot for. And you'll hit to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ik it's a learn to play issue. I'm not a pure. At all. My only combat stat not between 55 and 65 is summoning (46). Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 But anyways, this just shows how silly strength pures are. You can get that much, and more strength, just by having the attack levels to equip a higher weapon with a bonus higher than the strength level you'd otherwise shoot for. And you'll hit to boot. the point of 60 attack pures is the big dds/claw ko at lower combats than godsword pures - the steady dps should be done with range, which is accurate enough tbh Ik it's a learn to play issue. I'm not a pure. At all. My only combat stat not between 55 and 65 is summoning (46). then dont worry tbh - forget members for a while, suit up in full rune and play some f2p bh - you wont kill anything, but you'll find out just how powerless those melee pures are against mains 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 I'll think about it. Right now I'm enjoying barrows-it's a lot easier than it's hyped up to be. Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephy Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Dragon scimitar gets about four hits per dragon longsword's three. The max hit difference is pretty minor, especially if you have reasonable base strength to back it up. Disclaimer: The above is probably inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hmm..... Maybe I should get my scimmy out of the bank. But my longsword has been working better than it in general. Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephy Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered?Because the average whip user has far better stats than the average dlong user.And I suppose whip's extra 40 LP or something of max hit over a dscim doesn't hurt either. Disclaimer: The above is probably inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered?Because the average whip user has far better stats than the average dlong user.And I suppose whip's extra 40 LP or something of max hit over a dscim doesn't hurt either. What's wrong with the average whip damaqe? It costs more, it's harder to obtain, it has higher requirements. I don't see any problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered?Because the average whip user has far better stats than the average dlong user.And I suppose whip's extra 40 LP or something of max hit over a dscim doesn't hurt either. What's wrong with the average whip damaqe? It costs more, it's harder to obtain, it has higher requirements. I don't see any problemYou miss my point. Whip appears a lot stronger than it actually is, simply because the characters wielding it are on average innately stronger.They could just as easily produce (almost nearly as) amazing hits with a dscim. Disclaimer: The above is probably inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered?Because the average whip user has far better stats than the average dlong user.And I suppose whip's extra 40 LP or something of max hit over a dscim doesn't hurt either. What's wrong with the average whip damaqe? It costs more, it's harder to obtain, it has higher requirements. I don't see any problemYou miss my point. Whip appears a lot stronger than it actually is, simply because the characters wielding it are on average innately stronger.They could just as easily produce (almost nearly as) amazing hits with a dscim. Then this thread is biased in a lot of ways. It's like calling a Rune Scimitar overpowered because some high levels are hitting 40s with it, and you're only hitting 30s with Dscim. The point goes; Don't blame the equipment, blame your stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applyapple Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 This thread is silly. Along with half of the rants threads. Anyways - I don't get it, why is whip overpowered?I haven't used one. I'm just basing on what I see other people do. The point of rants threads is to complain.............Of course it's silly! Ummmmmm.....................Not much to say. If you want to find me in Runescape, my name is not applyapple. It is vetoscadiva. Complain as you like about Jagex, but think about what they've done. How many MMORPG designers go around to creating as complex an in-game world as Jagex? They do need to get around to making a equipable knife, though. With everyone's complaining about updates, it's amzing that there isn't a forum topic on the fact that the chat box says "You can't reach that" (as opposed to "I can't reach that!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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