Well, this semester of college (my fourth so far) we are learning the glory of .NET. I have two .NET classes, one for C# and the other one for ASP, both taught by huge Microsoft fanboys :lol:

 

I've never been a huge fan of gui builders and all that, so using visual studio has been annoying, and I keep thinking how things would be "easier" in php. I admit I don't use it a lot, and my knowledge is quite limited, but from what I've seen I like it better.

 

So, I want to know which you prefer. Have you had bad experiences with one language/and or both? What do you prefer about each? Post away :)

I've never been a huge fan of gui builders and all that, so using visual studio has been annoying, and I keep thinking how things would be "easier" in php. I admit I don't use it a lot, and my knowledge is quite limited, but from what I've seen I like it better.

Wait, what is it that you like better and to your knowledge is quite limited? Answer carefully.

It seems to me (from what I've seen) that using C# involves a lot of extra lines of code and stupid conventions from microsoft that php doesn't have. But as I said, I'm no expert in either language :P

Yeah I don't know why I would want to pay for an inferior language, looking at its syntax it does look way too verbose. PHP does just about anything, like a book I read on it said, you don't need to know all the features to use it a lot. It works for hobbyist programmers but still has the feature set to scale up to an enterprise website.

The question for me is, is ASP worth the price? Even those who argue that it's better can't say it's worth the price.

I do both Php and Asp.Net (although with VB and not C#), and it really depends on what you plan on doing. PHP can be on anything, Windows or Linux it doesn't care, while ASP stays on Windows. Also Php is free and ASP is not. Where it really comes into play, is the time it takes. It's much faster to do it with ASP than Php. There's a lot of things you can do in minutes with programs like Visual Studio in ASP that will take hours with PHP. For example, on our big end of year project in our programming class, the web section decided to do it in Php, but at the end they were regretting the choice, although having used php frameworks, but what they had done in a week could've been done in a day with ASP.Net.

Yes, visual studio certainly streamlines things a bit.

How so?

The gui builder capabilities, automatic database connections, stuff like that. Often times it doesn't work quite how you want it though, at least from what I've seen.

C#/ASP.NET hands down. I refuse to program in PHP any longer. The security (as far as being able to implement it properly) and cohesion are much better and you also have all the power of the Framework and Base Class Libraries.

 

Also, an important note: ASP is obsolete. ASP.NET is its replacement. They are not the same.

I like PHP alot, you can do anything with it in my opinion :)

The gui builder capabilities, automatic database connections, stuff like that. Often times it doesn't work quite how you want it though, at least from what I've seen.

 

Actually, you have to do it to end up with what you want. I never really had trouble with their tools and only ever needed to change very minor things.

They're not priced similarly. PHP is free/open source. I'm not sure what you meant with that last sentence.

 

C#/ASP.NET hands down.

C# has little to do with PHP, it's more like Java. I don't think that this discussion was meant to be about C#, just ASP.NET and PHP.

Well it's the back end that's more comparable to php so if C# is his language of choice then it's a fair call.

 

But yeah, don't know how you can make a cost comparison.

Tough call really. I like PHP due to the $0 outlay and fact that it runs on any server... but ASP.NET has the larger industry demand, so the small-medium projects get PHP, large ones get ASP.NET just to save time.

If speed is what you want ASP.NET MVC is far superior the php. (A compiled language is proven faster than a interpretted language) Not so if you are using ASP .NET Webforms though all that extra

jazz really slows it down.

How about PHP with HipHop? Facebook uses that.

 

And nowadays you almost have to talk about Python too if you want to talk about web programming languages.