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Looking Further Into Burning Shades


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Awhile back I had decided to get a couple prayer & firemaking levels from burning magic pyre logs & Fiyr Shades.
After I had finished, I decided that I would so a little study on your chances of getting stuff from burning shades & looting chests.

Burning Shades:
While Burning shades, I used magic pyre logs & fiyr shades.
When burning these you get silver keys.
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When using the logs & shades I averaged around to do 1 trip (13 logs & shades) in ~2 minutes.
I used 6,331 pyre magic logs & Fiyr Shades. Here is the keys I got with some more information

Color Worth Amount % Chance of Getting
Crimson 98 gp 2246 35.476%
Brown 97 gp 960 15.163%
Red 96 gp 918 14.5%
Black 99 gp 506 7.99%
Purple 100 gp 313 4.94%
Cash random 1388 21.19%

Exp Gains for burning shades:
100 prayer experience per burn
404.5 firemaking experience (with ring of fire & flame gloves it's 425.5 exp per)
So in the 6,331 logs I burnt I gained:
633,100 Prayer experience
2,693,840.5 Firemaking experience

After getting all the burning done, I ended with 4,943 keys. From here I started looting the chests.
While doing these, I didn't keep a drop-by-drop log, so I didn't keep track of the chances of getting coins, bloods, deaths, yew, and magic logs because you could get those at random amounts WITH the other drops you could get.

1 trip of 22 keys took ~2 minutes 20 seconds

Amount Item % Chance of Getting
101 rune meds .0204%
30 rune longs .0081%
56 rune scims .011%
29 rune chains .0059%
92 rune longs .0186%

219 addy helms .0443%
96 addy plates .019%
99 addy skirts .02%
99 addy legs .02%
154 addy kites .031%
226 addy squares .045%
90 addy chains .018%
176 addy warhammers .036%
75 addy longs .0152%
106 addy 2h .0214%
132 addy baxes .0267%
356 addy spears (p) .072%
321 addy spears .0649%

110 mith bodies .0223%
119 mith skirts .0241%

215 black plates .0435%
215 black spears .0435%

3975 bloods
6307 deaths
84 battlestaves .017%
122 diamond rings .0247%
156 power ammies .032%
3,117,787gp
682 fine cloth .138%
730 yew logs
427 magic logs
138 flamtaer hammers .0289%

There is also a VERY high chance of getting a clue scroll from looting chests ~1 per 5 trips (22 keys), so I only did clues every so many keys.

Loot from clues:
Clues Done: x25
8x rune hatchet
7x rune plate
4x rune full
1x rune kite h5
6x rune long
8x rune baxe
9x rune legs
4x rune pick
5x rune dag
72x rune bolts
5x rune cbow
109x shark
40x lobs
19x purple sweets
8x biscuits
8x black dhide chaps
3x black dhide body
1 x blue dhide chaps (g)
1 x zammy page 3
152x mahogany plank
129 bloods
255 nats
70 laws
1x sara plate
1x rune legs (t)
141x sara arrows
45x zammy arrows
80x guthix arrows
5x lumbyard tele
6x pheonix lair tele
13x nardah tele
15x Tai bwo Wannai teleport
3x msb
2x willow comp bow
1x magic comp bow
10,367 coins
12x fetch scrolls
5x meerkats
Bandos page 3
1x enchanted top

Total Loot From Keys:
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Total Loot from Clues from the Chests:
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Cost of Magic Pyre Logs & Fiyr Shades (3.5kea): 22.16m
Total of Looting & Clues: ~46m

Net Profit: 23.84m


Other Info:
For the shades I burned & keys I used. Here's is the amount of time it would take if you did it NON-stop keeping the average time per trip I had.
6,331/13 = 487 (trips) x 120 secs (a trip) = 58440 secs / 60 seconds = 974 mins / 60 mins = 16.23 hours.
5,000/22 = 227.3 (trips) x 200 secs (a trip) = 45,460 secs / 60 seconds = 757.67 mins / 60 mins = 12.63 hours

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Lots of data here. Very good job :D

I'm not sure if I'm actually going make a spreadsheet calculator on shade burning.
But if I did, some time, eventually, would you mind if I used your data?
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Interesting, but what's your conclusion?

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Lots of data here. Very good job :D

I'm not sure if I'm actually going make a spreadsheet calculator on shade burning.
But if I did, some time, eventually, would you mind if I used your data?


Go right ahead. But you would probably have to go even further into it because of the fact that I didn't take a log each time for coins, runes, logs AND an item that you can get (double loots) and I only did clues every so often so you'd probably have to take time to do it and find out what the % chance of getting those are.

Interesting, but what's your conclusion?


No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol

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How much prayer exp is that?

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Interesting stuff.You bought the Sacred oil in GE?
Any details on the spots where you killed the shades etc etc?
100 pray xp for each shade.

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How much prayer exp is that?


100 prayer experience per burn
404.5 firemaking experience (with ring of fire & flame gloves it's 425.5 exp per burn)

So in the 6,331 logs I burnt I gained:
633,100 Prayer experience
2,693,840.5 Firemaking experience

Interesting stuff.You bought the Sacred oil in GE?
Any details on the spots where you killed the shades etc etc?
100 pray xp for each shade.


I bought the magic pyre logs and fiyr shades right off the ge.

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Cool, making money and decent exp at same time. Not easy to do these days.

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No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol


Oh, how long did this all take you?

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Interesting.How long did it take for the items to buy?Means w77 isn't dead yet...

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Its good to see older content still being used :thumbup:

Would you recommend this method?

Also, how long did it take to burn everything?
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No conclusion, I just wanted to get percentages for people and they can take whatever they want from it lol


Oh, how long did this all take you?


I took my time (got distracted easily with life, monster hunting, my clan, etc). However I did my last 2.5k keys within 2 weeks (but being distracted alot lol)
You can probably burn the amount of logs I had 6.3k and use the keys I had ~5k in about a week if you did it without stopping to do other things. (However I dunno if you'd no life it lol)
Pretty much
6,331/26 = 243.5 (trips) x 120 secs (a trip) = 29220 secs / 60 seconds = 487 mins / 60 mins = 8.12 hours.
5,000/22 = 227.3 (trips) x 200 secs (a trip) = 45,460 secs / 60 seconds = 757.67 mins / 60 mins = 12.63 hours
So if you did it non-stop, getting the average time per trip that I had, you could theoretically finish burning 6.3k logs and using 5k keys in 20.75 hours.

Interesting.How long did it take for the items to buy?Means w77 isn't dead yet...

Umm, It took about 2 weeks to buy the 6k pyre logs & fiyr shades.

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Its good to see older content still being used :thumbup:

Would you recommend this method?

Also, how long did it take to burn everything?


For prayer, not really, it's profitable prayer exp, but you can get faster exp & make money other ways.
For the firemaking exp, 425 exp per logs is VERY good (unless you have fm brawlers)

I looked at it like this.. "It's protfitable prayer & fm exp"

Would I recommend it?
Well, if your dedicated and want to get prayer & fm exp with profit, Yes I would. However if you think it would take you a long time to burn all the logs & use all the keys (like walking, standing doing nothing, etc while burning or using keys) then probably not because you could have made more profit & exp doing other things.
If you can keep the average of 160 seconds per trip burning & 200 seconds a trip using keys, then yes, it is a very good exp/gp method (profitable).

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when you get to the cost portion you only count 3.5k for the cost of burning the shade when really it is 7k, making it still profitable but by very little
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Qeltar did a study on shade-burning too, albeit under the assumption that magic pyre logs are unbuyable. http://runescoop.com...hadesofMort.htm

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when you get to the cost portion you only count 3.5k for the cost of burning the shade when really it is 7k, making it still profitable but by very little


When I bought the supplies it was 3.5k, but now with the ge prices changes the profit can change of course. Either way (as of now) it's still a profitable exp/gp way of training.




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