Binding Question

[SpikeStr1ke]

Im 51 Dungeoneering and i was wondering what the best bind is of these choices?

 

Promethium Longsword & Kiteshield

 

Promethium 2-Hander & Platebody

 

Promethium Battle Axe & Kiteshield

 

Promethium Battle Axe & Platebody

 

Current Bind: Promethium Battle Axe & Full Helm (helm recieved as a drop from prom warrior)

 

I use the Berserker Stance which i accidently made tier 5 not realizing i already used my 1 reset.

 

EDIT: Also i dont see any diffrence really having used both the 2h and the B-axe on berserker at T-5 and i dont plan on going any higher than that so would Raipier/LS be better?

[AnneFrank]

prom 2hander+prom plate

is the best option

 

 

prom baxe+prom plate

if you key

 

 

 

if you get a shadow silk hood you should bind it over a plate

[SpikeStr1ke]

Im Definantly planning to bind a SSH over prom plate/kite if i get one but for now im leaning towards the LS + Kite or sticking with B-axe + helm as i've tried the 2h and even with berserker and 91 att i was REALLY innaccurate. Any more suggestions though are welcome.

[AnneFrank]

Im Definantly planning to bind a SSH over prom plate/kite if i get one but for now im leaning towards the LS + Kite or sticking with B-axe + helm as i've tried the 2h and even with berserker and 91 att i was REALLY innaccurate. Any more suggestions though are welcome.

Why would you get baxe+helm

 

why not baxe+plate?

[SpikeStr1ke]

The b-axe i had before i was 50 dung and the Full Helm i just got as a drop from a primal warrior in a 5:5 large with a few friends

[AnneFrank]

The b-axe i had before i was 50 dung and the Full Helm i just got as a drop from a primal warrior in a 5:5 large with a few friends

I see.

Well if i really don't like prom 2hander, keep using prom baxe.

 

But You should get rid of your helm, and get a prom plate instead

[SirIzenhime]

Im Definantly planning to bind a SSH over prom plate/kite if i get one but for now im leaning towards the LS + Kite or sticking with B-axe + helm as i've tried the 2h and even with berserker and 91 att i was REALLY innaccurate. Any more suggestions though are welcome.

 

That really doesn't make any sense considering the B'axe uses the same styles, but has lower stats.

[jettrider]

First bind: Primal battleaxe ~ Promethium 2h > Promethium battleaxe

Second bind: Shadow silk hood > Promethium platebody

 

NEVER bind a helmet/platelegs/shield or a weapon that doesn't have at least two styles in aggressive mode. The easiest way to get a plate (which you should do ASAP because it could be a while until a hood drop) is to use dg smith clan chat and find someone willing to smith one for you. Same goes with the 2h.

 

There's really no reason to even consider helm/platelegs/shield except as placeholders until you get your desired items smithed.

[SirIzenhime]

NEVER bind a helmet/platelegs/shield

 

Unless you can make promethieum for yourself, then binding primal Legs or Shield is reasonable.

[xpx]

NEVER bind a helmet/platelegs/shield

 

Unless you can make promethieum for yourself, then binding primal Legs or Shield is reasonable.

Who the hell makes armor for themselves in dungeoneering? and then you'd still want plate over legs as 5 bars > 3 bars. There is actually a great reason to bind primal full helm- it's extremely rare, and it makes for a great al pic. For shield, guardians ward is actually a nice bind for a 100+ dg keyer.

[SirIzenhime]

NEVER bind a helmet/platelegs/shield

 

Unless you can make promethieum for yourself, then binding primal Legs or Shield is reasonable.

Who the hell makes armor for themselves in dungeoneering? and then you'd still want plate over legs as 5 bars > 3 bars. There is actually a great reason to bind primal full helm- it's extremely rare, and it makes for a great al pic. For shield, guardians ward is actually a nice bind for a 100+ dg keyer.

People who don't like rushes, and do dungeoneering for fun. No need to get all hissypiss about it. I personally like making stuff in dungeons because I find it fun and hate doing rushes.

[xpx]

But you still went after only a part of my point, exactly how is having to get 5 bars better than 3 bars? you could make legs, boots and gaunts with those 5 bars and be much better off than having just legs and plate...Also i don't understand how you can say that the reason is fun. How is spending mindless hours more on making armor and preparing like a donkey fun? It's a very personal opinion on dungeoneering and if anything, rushing is actually more fun, as most people prefer rushing. Not liking rushing is a genuine point, but then again, as it isn't efficient, it isn't recommended.

[SirIzenhime]

I apologies that I don't find rushing fun like most people. I just don't. I also find it fun to get the highest def possible, just because it looks cool to see those 400-500+ stats.

 

TBH, when I dungoneer, I say [bleep] efficiency, I'm doing what I find fun. I've gotten to the level I am now doing larges with 3-4 friends, taking anywhere between 1-2 hours. Almost every minute of it was fun, and that's all that matters to me in dungeoneering.

 

I bet you'll shutter at this thought. I've done floor 42 mediums with my friends (Omg, fear the in-efficiency)

Who are you to tell me what's fun and not? It's complete opinion. You ask how I can say spending mindless hours (actually like 2 minutes) making armor is fun. Well...this is how.

 

Spending time making armor is fun to me.

 

It's shocking, isn't it.

 

If I were into rushing, then sure, I'd say forget the armor, stick with a hood and primal baxe (buying novite shield for tank), but I don't do rushes, so I was just saying what I do based on what I find to be fun.

[Troacctid]

I apologies that I don't find rushing fun like most people. I just don't. I also find it fun to get the highest def possible, just because it looks cool to see those 400-500+ stats.

 

TBH, when I dungoneer, I say [bleep] efficiency, I'm doing what I find fun. I've gotten to the level I am now doing larges with 3-4 friends, taking anywhere between 1-2 hours. Almost every minute of it was fun, and that's all that matters to me in dungeoneering.

 

I bet you'll shutter at this thought. I've done floor 42 mediums with my friends (Omg, fear the in-efficiency)

Who are you to tell me what's fun and not? It's complete opinion. You ask how I can say spending mindless hours (actually like 2 minutes) making armor is fun. Well...this is how.

 

Spending time making armor is fun to me.

 

It's shocking, isn't it.

 

If I were into rushing, then sure, I'd say forget the armor, stick with a hood and primal baxe (buying novite shield for tank), but I don't do rushes, so I was just saying what I do based on what I find to be fun.

It's a good point though, even if you're making your own armor it ought to be better to bind a platebody.

[SirIzenhime]

[hide]

I apologies that I don't find rushing fun like most people. I just don't. I also find it fun to get the highest def possible, just because it looks cool to see those 400-500+ stats.

 

TBH, when I dungoneer, I say [bleep] efficiency, I'm doing what I find fun. I've gotten to the level I am now doing larges with 3-4 friends, taking anywhere between 1-2 hours. Almost every minute of it was fun, and that's all that matters to me in dungeoneering.

 

I bet you'll shutter at this thought. I've done floor 42 mediums with my friends (Omg, fear the in-efficiency)

Who are you to tell me what's fun and not? It's complete opinion. You ask how I can say spending mindless hours (actually like 2 minutes) making armor is fun. Well...this is how.

 

Spending time making armor is fun to me.

 

It's shocking, isn't it.

 

If I were into rushing, then sure, I'd say forget the armor, stick with a hood and primal baxe (buying novite shield for tank), but I don't do rushes, so I was just saying what I do based on what I find to be fun.

It's a good point though, even if you're making your own armor it ought to be better to bind a platebody.

[/hide]

Not if you're like me, and like getting the highest def possible for the fun of it.

[xpx]

You posted it as a fact that not rushing is fun. that is utter BS.

 

It might be fun for you to have maximum available defense, but then again, do you have your two bind set at prim legs and kite/helm? If you don't you are not only a very strange guy, but also a hypocrite.

 

By the way, as you are knowingly doing things in the wrong way, i don't know why you'd even try to be a binding consultant.

[dragon246665]

You posted it as a fact that not rushing is fun. that is utter BS.

 

It might be fun for you to have maximum available defense, but then again, do you have your two bind set at prim legs and kite/helm? If you don't you are not only a very strange guy, but also a hypocrite.

 

By the way, as you are knowingly doing things in the wrong way, i don't know why you'd even try to be a binding consultant.

 

Hey man, no need to start a flamewar, he was just stating his opinnion on what he thought would be a good idea to bind, and gave his reason as to why he thought so. If you think that there is a different better way, then post it and be done with it, then the person who asked the question can decide what he wants to do.

[SirIzenhime]

All i said is that if you can make promethiem armour, that binding primal legs/kite isn't 100% bad to do. I never tried to consult him saying "binding primal stuff is best to do". All I ever did was add onto what someone else said. He already had his efficiency answer anyways. So if I had told him to bind a Hood + Battle axe, I would have just been repeating what someone else said, and that really doesn't do any good when he already knew about it.

 

Also, I don't have any primal pieces bound, and you are incorrect in saying that makes me a Hypocrit, because if you look at my stats, I can't make or mine promethieum items, which as I stated earlier, was what you would need for it to even be remotely usefull. Once I can, I do plan to bind either legs or a kite.

 

[hide]

You posted it as a fact that not rushing is fun. that is utter BS.

 

It might be fun for you to have maximum available defense, but then again, do you have your two bind set at prim legs and kite/helm? If you don't you are not only a very strange guy, but also a hypocrite.

 

By the way, as you are knowingly doing things in the wrong way, i don't know why you'd even try to be a binding consultant.

 

Hey man, no need to start a flamewar, he was just stating his opinnion on what he thought would be a good idea to bind, and gave his reason as to why he thought so. If you think that there is a different better way, then post it and be done with it, then the person who asked the question can decide what he wants to do.

[/hide]

 

I wouldn't say he's flaming so much, more that he's trying to disprove an opinion

[xpx]

I don't think my reply went as far as trying to flame him but rather trying to understand his logic.

 

I have to say that i didn't even bother looking at mining/smithing stats, but realistically, you are missing out on ALOT of fun in having even more defense available for you than you do now, and i really can't understand how you can live without having the absolute best defense.... more than likely, you don't need it... In any case, most, if not nearly every high level dungeoneer never opens his equipment stat window in dungeons so i don't see how it's relevant.

 

Anyway, you yourself must understand that you are a very special ''boy'' out there, and suggesting for someone else to dungeoneer inefficiently for some strange reasons(i must admit, there is not one legit reason you have given apart from it being fun'er to a minority of rs player) Isn't particularly helpful. You do have your opinion, but you should atleast add that your method is inefficient and only funner to a very select number of people, not to mention most teams don't want people without a hood.

[SirIzenhime]

can you please quote where I said what I do is efficient? If anything, I said the exact opposite.

 

TBH, when I dungoneer, I say [bleep] efficiency, I'm doing what I find fun. I've gotten to the level I am now doing larges with 3-4 friends, taking anywhere between 1-2 hours. Almost every minute of it was fun, and that's all that matters to me in dungeoneering.

 

I bet you'll shutter at this thought. I've done floor 42 mediums with my friends (Omg, fear the in-efficiency)

 

Also, saying I'm missing out on fun the way I do it....I've tried rushes, I even had a SS Hood bound at some point so I could. I hated it, it was awful for me, I found no joy in it at all. It wasn't the team either, we got done in like...40 minutes, no deaths. I just didn't enjoy, so no. You're wrong, I'm not missing out on any fun, because I do not find it fun at all. I don't usually look at my stats either, but that's just because I already have a general idea of how much deference I have without looking anymore.

 

I think you'd also be surprised at how many people enjoy not rushing. I'd always advertise my groups as "Not rush", and I'd get people wanting to join in just a few seconds. Try to keep in mind that dungeoneering clans aren't the only people that dungeoneer. I'm not a Minority, I'm just not a part of DG clans.

[jettrider]

There is actually a great reason to bind primal full helm- it's extremely rare, and it makes for a great al pic. For shield, guardians ward is actually a nice bind for a 100+ dg keyer.

 

Yeah good point about the Primal Full helm. I only know of one person with it bound though I'm sure there are probably ~10 in the game. However, since the Skeletal Horde boss isn't too common on the large floors most people do, and the drop is so rare and relatively useless, you're best off just taking the picture when you get the drop without binding it.

 

Guardians ward - I'm not quite sure why this is considered a good item to have. Sure, it has decent mage defence, but people generally tend to pray mage anyway. You could start praying range instead but you're still going to get cut up by melee and you are still fairly vulnerable to a high level shade or mage. It does save cash at the start but anti-dragon shields are common enough drops for keyers to use tank class. Am I missing something else?

[xpx]

Well the point of it would be to have mage defense without negative attack bonuses, and i think the wards are the only items that provide that. When keying, it'd be nice to have some defense against all classes, and while a hide body would provide just that, -10 accuracy is tough. It's also considered ''cool'' to have rare slayer items bound.