Herbicide or Bonecrusher?

[Dire_Wolf]

I have decided to go with Bonecrusher.

[Obtaurian]

That was quick.

 

IMO, herbicide > bonecrusher. The experience from the bonecrusher is negligible, while the herbicide makes spectre tasks much more click-friendly.

[lordkafei]

Well, suqahs drop very low-level herbs. There don't seem to be many high-level slayer NPCs that are prodigious herb droppers.

 

And I'd say the same about bones. The only things I'd want a bonecrusher for are baby dragons & lower. And there are plenty of slayer NPCs that drop ashes or no bones.

 

For high-level slayer, I question the use of either item.

 

Now, if you are going to go no-life for challenge scrolls or camp at baby dragons for effigies, I'd say that would be a nice niche use of the bonecrusher. And you could always go slumming at banshees, basilisks or flesh crawlers for herbicide. But using either with high-level slayer? I have my doubts.

[green9090]

Bonecrusher because you can use it to halve the amount of inventory clogging that happens training hunter at falconry, making it quite a good way to train hunter.

 

The combat uses for both are so small as to be non-existent.

[Dire_Wolf]

Bonecrusher because you can use it to halve the amount of inventory clogging that happens training hunter at falconry, making it quite a good way to train hunter.

 

The combat uses for both are so small as to be non-existent.

That's what i thought too. And i checked Runescape wiki, and experience you get with Herbicide is minimal. So i will go with Bonecrusher. It would be another thing, if many monsters in Slayer dropped herbs often. Many times i have used hours to get rocks for Hunter.

That was quick.

 

IMO, herbicide > bonecrusher. The experience from the bonecrusher is negligible, while the herbicide makes spectre tasks much more click-friendly.

You are right Herbicide is neat for Aberant spectres. But it's little experience, and most monsters do not drop herbs so often. Bonecrusher is more useful.

[Obtaurian]

Basically, they both have one or two niche uses, so it just depends on what you do more. Can't really go wrong with either one (given the choice).

[Troacctid]

Well, suqahs drop very low-level herbs. There don't seem to be many high-level slayer NPCs that are prodigious herb droppers.

 

And I'd say the same about bones. The only things I'd want a bonecrusher for are baby dragons & lower. And there are plenty of slayer NPCs that drop ashes or no bones.

 

For high-level slayer, I question the use of either item.

 

Now, if you are going to go no-life for challenge scrolls or camp at baby dragons for effigies, I'd say that would be a nice niche use of the bonecrusher. And you could always go slumming at banshees, basilisks or flesh crawlers for herbicide. But using either with high-level slayer? I have my doubts.

The reason herbicide is (imo) better for high-level slaying is that low-level herbs can appear at the top of a drop pile and obscure better items. This is particularly problematic when cannoning aberrant spectres. Bonecrusher never has that problem.

 

The herblore xp is minimal, but the prayer xp is only really valuable if you don't already have turmoil, in which case you're better off investing your time in actual prayer training before you slay so that you have the benefit of Turmoil while you slay. That's how I see it, anyway.

[Dire_Wolf]

The reason herbicide is (imo) better for high-level slaying is that low-level herbs can appear at the top of a drop pile and obscure better items. This is particularly problematic when cannoning aberrant spectres. Bonecrusher never has that problem.

 

The herblore xp is minimal, but the prayer xp is only really valuable if you don't already have turmoil, in which case you're better off investing your time in actual prayer training before you slay so that you have the benefit of Turmoil while you slay. That's how I see it, anyway.

That is a similar reason why i am getting Bonecrusher. Useful for Hunter. But that lower herbs makes better drops obscure is really something to think about.

[Troacctid]

The reason herbicide is (imo) better for high-level slaying is that low-level herbs can appear at the top of a drop pile and obscure better items. This is particularly problematic when cannoning aberrant spectres. Bonecrusher never has that problem.

 

The herblore xp is minimal, but the prayer xp is only really valuable if you don't already have turmoil, in which case you're better off investing your time in actual prayer training before you slay so that you have the benefit of Turmoil while you slay. That's how I see it, anyway.

That is a similar reason why i am getting Bonecrusher. Useful for Hunter. But that lower herbs makes better drops obscure is really something to think about.

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

[Dire_Wolf]

The reason herbicide is (imo) better for high-level slaying is that low-level herbs can appear at the top of a drop pile and obscure better items. This is particularly problematic when cannoning aberrant spectres. Bonecrusher never has that problem.

 

The herblore xp is minimal, but the prayer xp is only really valuable if you don't already have turmoil, in which case you're better off investing your time in actual prayer training before you slay so that you have the benefit of Turmoil while you slay. That's how I see it, anyway.

That is a similar reason why i am getting Bonecrusher. Useful for Hunter. But that lower herbs makes better drops obscure is really something to think about.

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

It is? Good to know. But i was just thinking of doing falconry for Hunter rocks. I have been there for 1 hour and more sometimes. I guess i will save my tokens and not get any. They have so minimual uses. When thinking about it, 7K-8K experience for Hunter rock is pretty little compared to time i use to get them. And the statue? It's ugly and not a statue of my avatar.

[Elf Spice]

Seeing as you are 99 prayer, 93 herblore, and over 80 hunting, neither of them will benefit you much.

[green9090]

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

I'm getting a little over 90k exp/hour with mousekeys and bonecrusher at 87 hunter, which seems pretty damn good to me. What would you recommend instead?

[Elf Spice]

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

I'm getting a little over 90k exp/hour with mousekeys and bonecrusher at 87 hunter, which seems pretty damn good to me. What would you recommend instead?

 

Barehanding Sapphire glacialis is 110k/hr, along with agility xp on the side.

Falconry+BC is only the fastest hunter training from 69-80.

[green9090]

Is it really? At what hunter level though? Last time I tried it I was thoroughly unimpressed because I CONSTANTLY failed to catch the damn things.

[Troacctid]

The reason herbicide is (imo) better for high-level slaying is that low-level herbs can appear at the top of a drop pile and obscure better items. This is particularly problematic when cannoning aberrant spectres. Bonecrusher never has that problem.

 

The herblore xp is minimal, but the prayer xp is only really valuable if you don't already have turmoil, in which case you're better off investing your time in actual prayer training before you slay so that you have the benefit of Turmoil while you slay. That's how I see it, anyway.

That is a similar reason why i am getting Bonecrusher. Useful for Hunter. But that lower herbs makes better drops obscure is really something to think about.

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

It is? Good to know. But i was just thinking of doing falconry for Hunter rocks. I have been there for 1 hour and more sometimes. I guess i will save my tokens and not get any. They have so minimual uses. When thinking about it, 7K-8K experience for Hunter rock is pretty little compared to time i use to get them. And the statue? It's ugly and not a statue of my avatar.

From what I hear, charm sprites are supposedly faster for strange rocks. *shrug*

 

Falconry is a bad training method even with bonecrusher, though.

I'm getting a little over 90k exp/hour with mousekeys and bonecrusher at 87 hunter, which seems pretty damn good to me. What would you recommend instead?

Pretty sure penguins can get that or better. I think butterflies too. I mean, okay, at rates like that with fast dropping, it's not bad...I'd still say it's not good enough to make the bonecrusher worthwhile, though, unless there's some less quantifiable factor involved.

[Elf Spice]

Is it really? At what hunter level though? Last time I tried it I was thoroughly unimpressed because I CONSTANTLY failed to catch the damn things.

 

110k/hr is attainable with kyatt clothing/arctic bear, from my own personal experience catching them. I think agility level affects catching rates as well, not 100% positive.

The nice thing about failing to catch butterflies, unlike other training methods, is you don't have to reclick every time you do.

[green9090]

Is it really? At what hunter level though? Last time I tried it I was thoroughly unimpressed because I CONSTANTLY failed to catch the damn things.

 

110k/hr is attainable with kyatt clothing/arctic bear, from my own personal experience catching them. I think agility level affects catching rates as well, not 100% positive.

The nice thing about failing to catch butterflies, unlike other training methods, is you don't have to reclick every time you do.

Thanks, I'll have to give them a closer look. I didn't really test very hard last time, just discovered that my character apparently sucks at catching them and left.

[Bladewing]

the money and time you save by using bonecrusher to 99 slayer is less than the money and time saved if you use the tokens on recharging chaotics. bonecrusher is absolutely useless, especially since you are 99 prayer.

 

herbicide actually helps at aberrant spectres and can speed up tasks by about 20%.

[BBK]

I got herbicide, although the herb xp is small it does add up if you train a lot of slayer and actually a lot of kuradal tasks drop herbs, it also stops crap herbs from dropping so you know if you see a herb in the drop its one worth picking up (you can choose which herbs you want it to convert to xp if you didn't know) whereas I don't think bonecrusher is worth the tokens.

[Dire_Wolf]

Is it really? At what hunter level though? Last time I tried it I was thoroughly unimpressed because I CONSTANTLY failed to catch the damn things.

 

110k/hr is attainable with kyatt clothing/arctic bear, from my own personal experience catching them. I think agility level affects catching rates as well, not 100% positive.

The nice thing about failing to catch butterflies, unlike other training methods, is you don't have to reclick every time you do.

Thanks, I'll have to give them a closer look. I didn't really test very hard last time, just discovered that my character apparently sucks at catching them and left.

The bad thing about butterflies, specially higher level ones, is that they are mixed in a area. Sapphire glacias butterfly that i can catch, has also Snowy Knight in same area. But of them are white coloured. And it actually takes time to catch them sometimes. But it is nice.

[Troacctid]

The bad thing about butterflies, specially higher level ones, is that they are mixed in a area. Sapphire glacias butterfly that i can catch, has also Snowy Knight in same area. But of them are white coloured. And it actually takes time to catch them sometimes. But it is nice.

The snowy knights are white and the sapphire glacialis are blue. It's pretty easy to tell them apart...if you're having trouble, it's probably to do with the settings on your monitor.

[Dire_Wolf]

The bad thing about butterflies, specially higher level ones, is that they are mixed in a area. Sapphire glacias butterfly that i can catch, has also Snowy Knight in same area. But of them are white coloured. And it actually takes time to catch them sometimes. But it is nice.

The snowy knights are white and the sapphire glacialis are blue. It's pretty easy to tell them apart...if you're having trouble, it's probably to do with the settings on your monitor.

I will go and see. I was alot in Safemode low detail, now High detail. So don't think it was my montor.

 

 

EDIT: I checked and Snowy knight and Sapphire glacias look pretty much same. Both are PRETTY MUCH white, making it hard to know which one is what all the time. And the white floor don't make things better.

[green9090]

I just tried out sapphire glacialis again, still not impressed. Only getting around 80k hunter exp/hour with as little time between catches as possible. The agility exp is a nice bonus, and it's a little less attention intensive, but it's not comparable to power falconry with bonecrusher in terms of hunter exp/hour. You'd have to be very, very lucky to get 110k exp/hour here at my level. I average 5 or 6 fails per butterfly.

 

I'll try out snowy knights when I get to them.

[bedman]

I did the lvl 80 hunter butterflies at lvl 78 hunt (with hunter pots) and got 80-90k xp per hour by catching one spawn all the time (look up on youtube). I can imagine the lvl 85 ones are definitely better and probably over 100k, not even counting the agil xp