Chaotic Staff/C-bow/Sheild or Farseer next?

[green9090]

no need, we know it's ranged based.

no, you don't. it's a ranged attack, but you don't know what it's based on

 

if you call rsw an unreliable source of info, then you should take a look at yourself

You sound like you've never been to Bandos.

[SirIzenhime]

no need, we know it's ranged based.

no, you don't. it's a ranged attack, but you don't know what it's based on

 

if you call rsw an unreliable source of info, then you should take a look at yourself

 

Bandos has been out for more then 3 years....people have had time to test it.

Btw, I edited out the part about it being magic based, therefore, since Wiki is such a reliable source, it's a range based range attack :thumbup:

[SoulWars]

no need, we know it's ranged based.

no, you don't. it's a ranged attack, but you don't know what it's based on

 

if you call rsw an unreliable source of info, then you should take a look at yourself

 

Bandos has been out for more then 3 years....people have had time to test it.

Btw, I edited out the part about it being magic based, therefore, since Wiki is such a reliable source, it's a range based range attack :thumbup:

I never said it was wrong, guys, I just said he shouldn't be talking about unreliable sources when he's making assumptions

 

btw

fail sarcasm, edit that too :^o :^o :^o :^o :^o :^o

[Bladewing]

I never said it was wrong, guys, I just said he shouldn't be talking about unreliable sources when he's making assumptions

where did i make an assumption?

 

also:

 

You sound like you've never been to Bandos.

Your stats tell me you've never seen the sun.

mad?

[Obtaurian]

no need, we know it's ranged based.

no, you don't. it's a ranged attack, but you don't know what it's based on

 

if you call rsw an unreliable source of info, then you should take a look at yourself

 

Bandos has been out for more then 3 years....people have had time to test it.

Btw, I edited out the part about it being magic based, therefore, since Wiki is such a reliable source, it's a range based range attack :thumbup:

I never said it was wrong, guys, I just said he shouldn't be talking about unreliable sources when he's making assumptions

 

He's not making assumptions.

[SoulWars]

I never said it was wrong, guys, I just said he shouldn't be talking about unreliable sources when he's making assumptions

where did i make an assumption?

 

also:

 

You sound like you've never been to Bandos.

Your stats tell me you've never seen the sun.

mad?

10-year-old troll? dat burger yum

 

by saying, 'no need, we know it's ranged based.', you're assuming everybody (we) knows (obvious) that. tell that to those people who edited rswiki

 

by verifying it, people would stop arguing. therefore, 'no need' = invalid argument

[Bladewing]

by saying, 'no need, we know it's ranged based.', you're assuming everybody (we) knows (obvious) that. tell that to those people who edited rswiki

where did i say that i thought you know that? where did i say it was obvious?

 

by verifying it, people would stop arguing. therefore, 'no need' = invalid argument

 

there is no need for me to verify it because i have already done so. but for your sake i will do it.

 

i hereby verify that bandos uses a melee based melee attack and a ranged based ranged attack

 

also rapier as been verified to be superior slayer xp/h on every task but wyverns. yet people still argue about it.

[SoulWars]

by saying, 'no need, we know it's ranged based.', you're assuming everybody (we) knows (obvious) that. tell that to those people who edited rswiki

where did i say that i thought you know that? where did i say it was obvious? - what?

 

by verifying it, people would stop arguing. therefore, 'no need' = invalid argument

 

there is no need for me to verify it because i have already done so. but for your sake i will do it.

 

i hereby verify that bandos uses a melee based melee attack and a ranged based ranged attack - ever heard of something being official or proven?

 

also rapier as been verified to be superior slayer xp/h on every task but wyverns. yet people still argue about it.

again, you're making an assumption. you're indirectly saying that every person has the same gear, stats, etc. also wfs? lol

[Bladewing]

where is that assumption? and yeah you got me on the waterfiends, therefore everything i said has been made null.

[SoulWars]

where is that assumption? and yeah you got me on the waterfiends, therefore everything i said has been made null.

you said that rapier is better on every task but wyverns (and wfs now).. but it could differ as twists were made to gear/stats/etc.

 

edit: let me give you an example. if u use rag gear and you had to choose between the rapier or maul, u'd rely more on the maul cuz u had bad gear, yeah? whereas with the rapier, u'd rely more on other things. mhm?

[Bladewing]

you need 80 attack to use any of the 3 melee chaotic weapons. if you have 80 attack, rapier is the best chaotic weapon on every task but wfs and wyverns.

 

the assumption was that people considering chaotic weapons can actually use chaotic weapons. i guess that's too much to assume.

[SoulWars]

you need 80 attack to use any of the 3 melee chaotic weapons. if you have 80 attack, rapier is the best chaotic weapon on every task but wfs and wyverns.

 

the assumption was that people considering chaotic weapons can actually use chaotic weapons. i guess that's too much to assume.

btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwDfsBcojIQ

 

according to zarfot, the ultimate efficiency prod, maul>ls>rapier>whip for wyverns

 

conclusion:

 

assumptions and luck of evidence/testing

[Bladewing]

i never said that longsword was best for wyverns

 

thank you for showing me the error of my ways. from now on when i give advice, i will just tell people that "i can't help you because i wouldn't want to make any assumptions". for example i wouldn't want to assume that a person asking what the best gear to use is actually interested in what is the best gear. he may ACTUALLY be interested in what sword and shield combination looks the coolest.

[Obtaurian]

you need 80 attack to use any of the 3 melee chaotic weapons. if you have 80 attack, rapier is the best chaotic weapon on every task but wfs and wyverns.

 

the assumption was that people considering chaotic weapons can actually use chaotic weapons. i guess that's too much to assume.

btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwDfsBcojIQ

 

according to zarfot, the ultimate efficiency prod, maul>ls>rapier>whip for wyverns

 

conclusion:

 

assumptions and luck of evidence/testing

 

What in the world are you going on about? :huh: Bladewing is correct when he says that rapier > all other weapons on all slayer tasks with the exceptions of WFS and wyverns. He's also correct when he says that Graar's ranged attack is ranged based. What are you trying to argue? What's your point for arguing?

[SoulWars]

you need 80 attack to use any of the 3 melee chaotic weapons. if you have 80 attack, rapier is the best chaotic weapon on every task but wfs and wyverns.

 

the assumption was that people considering chaotic weapons can actually use chaotic weapons. i guess that's too much to assume.

btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwDfsBcojIQ

 

according to zarfot, the ultimate efficiency prod, maul>ls>rapier>whip for wyverns

 

conclusion:

 

assumptions and luck of evidence/testing

 

What in the world are you going on about? :huh: Bladewing is correct when he says that rapier > all other weapons on all slayer tasks with the exceptions of WFS and wyverns. He's also correct when he says that Graar's ranged attack is ranged based. What are you trying to argue? What's your point for arguing?

it's not about facts e.g. Graardor's attacks

 

it's about the factors determining conclusions and making assumptions

[green9090]

It's about you wanting to find somebody better than you to argue with, looks like.

 

We know for a fact that Graardor's attacks respond to ranged defense and NOT magic. You're the one who came in here ranting about assumptions when no assumptions had been made.

[Obtaurian]

Again, what's your point? Bladewing presented proven, testable facts, and you decided to argue with him because . . . ?

[SoulWars]

i never said that longsword was best for wyverns

 

thank you for showing me the error of my ways. from now on when i give advice, i will just tell people that "i can't help you because i wouldn't want to make any assumptions". for example i wouldn't want to assume that a person asking what the best gear to use is actually interested in what is the best gear. he may ACTUALLY be interested in what sword and shield combination looks the coolest.

nothing's an assumption if it has been proven

what's your point with the looks thingy? lol

for the record, looks = opinion

feel free to relate that to advice-giving, etc.

[SoulWars]

Again, what's your point? Bladewing presented proven, testable facts, and you decided to argue with him because . . . ?

proven = how is that proven? proof would be dps calculations blah blah

testable = tested* and no.

why? why not

[Obtaurian]

Again, what's your point? Bladewing presented proven, testable facts, and you decided to argue with him because . . . ?

proven = how is that proven? proof would be dps calculations blah blah

testable = tested* and no.

why? why not

 

It's been proven several times over. We've had three years to figure it out. :rolleyes:

I used the word 'testable' because it is testable. :rolleyes:

"Why not" -- Well, I dunno, maybe because he hasn't posted anything that can be challenged? :rolleyes:

 

Here's a few more of these:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[SoulWars]

It's about you wanting to find somebody better than you to argue with, looks like.

 

We know for a fact that Graardor's attacks respond to ranged defense and NOT magic. You're the one who came in here ranting about assumptions when no assumptions had been made.

"ccbow won't make a significant difference against prime since cannon does most the work." assumption

"also rex i guess." assumption, especially when he didn't state what he was looking for e.g. cost-efficiency, price and damage

"spectral might be better than cks for bandos since his ranged attack's accuracy is based on your magic defense, not your ranged defense. citation: rswiki" assumption, but please ignore cuz that'll create another argument lol

"if you can't afford a BSS you shouldn't even consider using chaotic weaponry."

"1 BSS for forever = 3M you can always get back"

"negative mage def, better off with DFS/D defender."

"FKS/CKS are impractical for pvm cause theyre easily lost and have high degrade cost" easily lost? assuming u suck and have bad internet connection mhm

 

want me to continue with assumptions? please, sir, repeat, 'when no assumptions had been made'

[Bladewing]

tested and proven: rapier gives higher slayer xp/h on every task except wyverns and waterfiends

tested and proven: you are hit less often by graardor's ranged attack while wearing high ranged defence armor than while wearing high magic defence armor.

 

edit: none of those things you quoted are assumption. do you know what assumption means?

[SoulWars]

Again, what's your point? Bladewing presented proven, testable facts, and you decided to argue with him because . . . ?

proven = how is that proven? proof would be dps calculations blah blah

testable = tested* and no.

why? why not

 

It's been proven several times over. We've had three years to figure it out. :rolleyes:

I used the word 'testable' because it is testable. :rolleyes:

"Why not" -- Well, I dunno, maybe because he hasn't posted anything that can be challenged? :rolleyes:

 

Here's a few more of these:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

3 years is not evidence, but knowing our community, it's more LIKELY to be true

again, this is not about facts

it's not proven if it's testable

it is, however, proven if it is TESTED (and explained, but i wont go into that)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

^ ride of happiness

[Obtaurian]

I can see that you're trying to argue semantics. FYI, you're doing it wrong.

[SoulWars]

tested and proven: rapier gives higher slayer xp/h on every task except wyverns and waterfiends

tested and proven: you are hit less often by graardor's ranged attack while wearing high ranged defence armor than while wearing high magic defence armor.

 

edit: none of those things you quoted are assumption.

yes, they are

 

and

 

it is not tested and proven after 2 hits, for example

 

runescape = dice roll system = game of luck

 

repetition

+ measurement

 

you got a runescape calculator, maybe?

 

"1 BSS for forever = 3M you can always get back"

= assumption

 

"impractical for pvm cause theyre easily lost"

- for reasons stated previously

 

repeat 'none of those things u quoted are "assumption"' lol.