Smithing and Mining Help thread

[omgeveryone9]

This is a thread for all players to get advice about Smithing and/or Mining. You can Ask about the Following:

* Locations

* How to Skill faster

* Money making

* Do's and Dont's

* Quests

* Which is a better option

 

I will help you with the question, but anyone can answer of help clarify the question of answer. No trading here please!

[Hegelstad]

It's pretty basic, smithing = Goldsmelting with goldsmithing gauntlets, do superheat gold simultaneously for an exp rate up to 120k Exp/hr. If you are rich you might want to smith addy platebodies, increased cost but a lot faster exp.

 

For smithing, granite mining is the best, after that comes iron mining. Buy a Dragon pickaxe if you can afford it.

[omgeveryone9]

It's pretty basic, smithing = Goldsmelting with goldsmithing gauntlets, do superheat gold simultaneously for an exp rate up to 120k Exp/hr. If you are rich you might want to smith addy platebodies, increased cost but a lot faster exp.

 

For smithing, granite mining is the best, after that comes iron mining. Buy a Dragon pickaxe if you can afford it.

Not quite. You don't need the superheating to make it faster. I use Varrock or Falador to make smithing+mining faster. If you have the patience to do it, by level 60 Falador is perfect for F2P, and sometimes even P2P. What makes smithing harder than other skills is that you need to consider that you need to use multiple methods to make smithing efficient. The 3 main methods are:

*More money, less Exp (buying ore and then selling bars)

*More Exp, drained money (buying ore then selling final product)

*Exp for 2 skills or more, inefficient (making final product from scratch, then selling it)

As for the mining, it is correct, but I find mining dater by mining coal and yes, iron is also a great way to train mining. Other than that, you are correct.

[Nifflin]

It's pretty basic, smithing = Goldsmelting with goldsmithing gauntlets, do superheat gold simultaneously for an exp rate up to 120k Exp/hr. If you are rich you might want to smith addy platebodies, increased cost but a lot faster exp.

 

For smithing, granite mining is the best, after that comes iron mining. Buy a Dragon pickaxe if you can afford it.

Not quite. You don't need the superheating to make it faster. I use Varrock or Falador to make smithing+mining faster. If you have the patience to do it, by level 60 Falador is perfect for F2P, and sometimes even P2P. What makes smithing harder than other skills is that you need to consider that you need to use multiple methods to make smithing efficient. The 3 main methods are:

*More money, less Exp (buying ore and then selling bars)

*More Exp, drained money (buying ore then selling final product)

*Exp for 2 skills or more, inefficient (making final product from scratch, then selling it)

As for the mining, it is correct, but I find mining dater by mining coal and yes, iron is also a great way to train mining. Other than that, you are correct.

 

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes.

 

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent. Similarly smelting is a poor choice because the time wasted getting slow exp is not worth the money saved. Thus we are only left with buying bars and selling products which is expensive in f2p.

 

TL;DR Superheating while smelting is best for most members. Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

[Aiel]

I picked other [insert rc, fishing, or agility here] because its too hard/slow.

 

Also, omge, the fact that you think you should smelt/mine in falador makes me disregard you entirely.

[MightyMuddy]

How about superheating in LRC? I'm planning on doing that once I get 80 mining.

[Nifflin]

How about superheating in LRC? I'm planning on doing that once I get 80 mining.

 

It's good but only because it gets fast exp from the fact that you can camp and train three skills at one and equally. There are faster ways to just train mining, just train smithing and just train magic.

[gremmy]

Nothing wrong with either lol. Both decently fast and near no cost, and afkable. Actually, pretty awesome skills.

[omgeveryone9]

I picked other [insert rc, fishing, or agility here] because its too hard/slow.

 

Also, omge, the fact that you think you should smelt/mine in falador makes me disregard you entirely.

You should smelt/mine Falador (it is more convenient than places like Lumbridge for example), but this does not mean that it is the ONLY good place to smelt/smith in. This is in my personal opinion, and you can do it at another location if you prefer.

 

Also, please clarify what you want me to insert and to which question.

[Hedgehog]

I picked other [insert rc, fishing, or agility here] because its too hard/slow.

 

Also, omge, the fact that you think you should smelt/mine in falador makes me disregard you entirely.

You should smelt/mine Falador (it is more convenient than places like Lumbridge for example), but this does not mean that it is the ONLY good place to smelt/smith in. This is in my personal opinion, and you can do it at another location if you prefer.

 

Also, please clarify what you want me to insert and to which question.

 

Well you're kinda implying that you should mine in the mining guild, which is horrible enough to start with, then you should go smelt the ores in the furnace half a city away.

 

I'm not sure if I'm being clear enough, but it's rather inefficient.

[Zaaps1]

Mining and Smithing are both very basic skills with very little thought required to be successful. The most complex tactics are the mine + superheat deal and even that isn't bad.

 

It's just that mining is a bore and smithing is costly.

[Bladewing]

firemaking is the worst skill

[omgeveryone9]

It's pretty basic, smithing = Goldsmelting with goldsmithing gauntlets, do superheat gold simultaneously for an exp rate up to 120k Exp/hr. If you are rich you might want to smith addy platebodies, increased cost but a lot faster exp.

 

For smithing, granite mining is the best, after that comes iron mining. Buy a Dragon pickaxe if you can afford it.

Not quite. You don't need the superheating to make it faster. I use Varrock or Falador to make smithing+mining faster. If you have the patience to do it, by level 60 Falador is perfect for F2P, and sometimes even P2P. What makes smithing harder than other skills is that you need to consider that you need to use multiple methods to make smithing efficient. The 3 main methods are:

*More money, less Exp (buying ore and then selling bars)

*More Exp, drained money (buying ore then selling final product)

*Exp for 2 skills or more, inefficient (making final product from scratch, then selling it)

As for the mining, it is correct, but I find mining dater by mining coal and yes, iron is also a great way to train mining. Other than that, you are correct.

 

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes

.

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent. Similarly smelting is a poor choice because the time wasted getting slow exp is not worth the money saved. Thus we are only left with buying bars and selling products which is expensive in f2p.

 

TL;DR Superheating while smelting is best for most members. Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes

What about the cheap and effective methods or the most rewarding methods (which means it will be usable with other skills). They are just as imprtant as the most efficient methods.

 

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent

Your first statement is correct, but this is for approximately 50% of the F2P population. the other 50% have a intention of being P2P in the near future, so Smithing as a F2P gives you an advantage by the time he or she is P2P. Your second statement is also correct, but there are many people who use it, and feel better off that way. That is because like Firemaking+Woodcutting, Mining and Smithing are interdependent to each other, so it would make at least some sense to combine smithing and Mining while training.

 

Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

Not always. I now train Smithing by making the final item from scratch, but I also am starting to train using the GE. I buy ores, smelt them, and then sell them. Not as time consuming or costly as other methods.

[Hedgehog]

It's pretty basic, smithing = Goldsmelting with goldsmithing gauntlets, do superheat gold simultaneously for an exp rate up to 120k Exp/hr. If you are rich you might want to smith addy platebodies, increased cost but a lot faster exp.

 

For smithing, granite mining is the best, after that comes iron mining. Buy a Dragon pickaxe if you can afford it.

Not quite. You don't need the superheating to make it faster. I use Varrock or Falador to make smithing+mining faster. If you have the patience to do it, by level 60 Falador is perfect for F2P, and sometimes even P2P. What makes smithing harder than other skills is that you need to consider that you need to use multiple methods to make smithing efficient. The 3 main methods are:

*More money, less Exp (buying ore and then selling bars)

*More Exp, drained money (buying ore then selling final product)

*Exp for 2 skills or more, inefficient (making final product from scratch, then selling it)

As for the mining, it is correct, but I find mining dater by mining coal and yes, iron is also a great way to train mining. Other than that, you are correct.

 

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes

.

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent. Similarly smelting is a poor choice because the time wasted getting slow exp is not worth the money saved. Thus we are only left with buying bars and selling products which is expensive in f2p.

 

TL;DR Superheating while smelting is best for most members. Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes

What about the cheap and effective methods or the most rewarding methods (which means it will be usable with other skills). They are just as imprtant as the most efficient methods.

 

There is no such thing as a cheap and rewarding method. If you think that say, mining iron and coal and making cannonballs is cheap and rewarding, then you are far from the truth. You might not spend any money, but in the time it takes to actually accomplish anything, you could easily have made quadruple what you earned from selling the cballs. Same with almost any method. The reason why gold is so efficient is that you earn 120k xp/hour and that it's the best xp/gp/hour for the average player.

 

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent

Your first statement is correct, but this is for approximately 50% of the F2P population. the other 50% have a intention of being P2P in the near future, so Smithing as a F2P gives you an advantage by the time he or she is P2P. Your second statement is also correct, but there are many people who use it, and feel better off that way. That is because like Firemaking+Woodcutting, Mining and Smithing are interdependent to each other, so it would make at least some sense to combine smithing and Mining while training.

 

As far as I'm concerned, both smithing and mining are a lot quicker to train in p2p (120k/hour smelting gold, 65k/hour mining granite, compared to the nominal xp received in f2p). However, both are equally useless, except for like opening doors in dungeoneering.

 

Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

Not always. I now train Smithing by making the final item from scratch, but I also am starting to train using the GE. I buy ores, smelt them, and then sell them. Not as time consuming or costly as other methods.

 

He's completely correct. I'm not sure what the most efficient method is in f2p, but I'm sure it's along the lines of making addy plates, which are certainly very costly. The next most efficient method, likely mithril plates (cbf looking it up) yields a lot less xp/hour. The less efficient you become, in general, the less gp/hour you will spend, however the xp/hour decreases at a much faster rate.

[Nifflin]

To address your points one by one. My responses are in italics. Edit: Lol, while I was composing this Hedgehog beat me to it. His responses are a bit better too. :P

 

 

Smelting and superheating gold with the family crest gold gauntlets IS the most efficient smithing experience for people who do not have high incomes

What about the cheap and effective methods or the most rewarding methods (which means it will be usable with other skills). They are just as imprtant as the most efficient methods.

 

The efficient methods are the most rewarding, cheap and effective methods based on the exp per hour gained versus a persons income, I don't understand what other methods you are talking about, they certainly aren't the most efficient. Anything else and you are just wasting your time.

 

If you are free to play then there is realy no reason to train smithing very far as it has little use outside dungoneering which is arguable. Even if you did want to train smithing, mining your own ores would be a poor choice because the money saved is not worth the time spent

Your first statement is correct, but this is for approximately 50% of the F2P population. the other 50% have a intention of being P2P in the near future, so Smithing as a F2P gives you an advantage by the time he or she is P2P. Your second statement is also correct, but there are many people who use it, and feel better off that way. That is because like Firemaking+Woodcutting, Mining and Smithing are interdependent to each other, so it would make at least some sense to combine smithing and Mining while training.

 

Well then f2p players shouldn't train smithing untill they are p2p. Really, it just wastes time. There are other skills which have similar exp rates in f2p and p2p, you should train those if you want a leg up.

 

Also, just because smithing relies on mining does not mean it makes sense to combine training them or f2p. The most efficient method is never training them together except one method of superheating concentrated gold at p2p, there are no examples where training the two skills together is better. None, not one.

 

Smithing in f2p will always be very costly, or very time consuming with the costly method often being the more efficient one.

Not always. I now train Smithing by making the final item from scratch, but I also am starting to train using the GE. I buy ores, smelt them, and then sell them. Not as time consuming or costly as other methods.

 

For your fourth and last point, smelting bars is slow, experience. I'm sorry but once you get to higher levels you will be smelting for hours and hours just to get a single level. It doesn't make sense.