Melee Slayer

[LatinII]

I need a bit of advice from a high leveled meleer. And I mean a meleer who has Soul Split and Turmoil.

 

On Slayer tasks, would you use Bandos armor, or proselyte? What kind of cape would you be using? Do you use overloads, or extremes? And I've read somewhere, that a "true power Slayer" is XX % of the time fighting monsters, instead of standing still, waiting for the loot to appear. How much % of the time is this per hour?

 

And lastly, how accurate is Melee? I know this really varies per task, but let's take abyssal demons as an example. How often do you miss on average? A chaotic rapier can swing for 1500 times per hour max, but it's obvious this is not a realistic number. How much would a devoted power Slayer actually be fighting monsters?

 

I would really like these questions being answered, as it would help me a lot.

[Lose No Hope]

I need a bit of advice from a high leveled meleer.

 

On Slayer tasks, would you use Bandos armor, or proselyte? What kind of cape would you be using? Do you use overloads, or extremes? And I've read somewhere, that a "true power Slayer" is XX % of the time fighting monsters, instead of standing still, waiting for the loot to appear. How much % of the time is this per hour?

 

And lastly, how accurate is Melee? I know this really varies per task, but let's take abyssal demons as an example. How often do you miss on average? A chaotic rapier can swing for 1500 times per hour max, but it's obvious this is not a realistic number. How much would a devoted power Slayer actually be fighting monsters?

 

I would really like these questions being answered, as it would help me a lot.

I can answer atleast some of these.

Bandos or verac skirt/fighter torso on tasks you will be taking damage. Prossy top/verac skirt on tasks that you will be using protection prayers.

For the most part, you should be using a fire cape and a sw cape only when the prayer bonus is needed.

Not sure on overloads/extremes as I don't have them (yet).

Most slayer monsters have low defence, so a rapier/whip with a defender is almost always hitting.

 

All I can help with, gl with the rest of the questions.

[manitstinks]

Never ever use bandos as veracs skirt and prossy plate are way better.

I mostly use extremes but I ovl if the monster is a dragon, black demon, waterfiend, dark beast, or some other strong monster. (extremes are for more "casual" slaying)

95%+ of the time attacking basically. I sometimes run to pick up loots or run to another spawn thats kinda far. Should be under a minute per hour.

I think I miss about 1/10 depending on the monster. W/o knowing the monster, it can vary greatly.

[Levon_]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

[Bladewing]

Never ever use bandos as veracs skirt and prossy plate are way better.

are you saying that veracs and proselyte has more strength bonus than bandos? because last time i checked prayer bonus doesn't help you kill monsters faster.

 

bandos + fire cape is the best armor and cape for melee slaying on every task but waterfiends. they use more prayer potions (15 doses of prayer potion, worth 24k gp, per hour vs. proselyte, verac's skirt, and SW cape), but they actually help you kill monsters faster.

 

technically overloads are always the best to use. however if you do any amount of boss hunting, even if you used the overload method to 99 herb, your overload stock will inevitably be depleted. my personal choice is to use overloads whenever i am cannoning and meleeing, like black dragon tasks, bloodvelds, etc. and to use extremes on uncannonbale tasks.

[JPMC Mate]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

I will have to disagree with you. Even though Prayer Potions are cheap, saving money in the end is always best. I second wearing Prosy Top and Verac's Skirt.

[Bladewing]

in that case you should just not use potions at all!

[manitstinks]

Funny how half of the people dont have the aforementioned turmoil + soul split.

 

@ Bladewing the guy said what we use not what is the most efficient.

 

P.s. Use soul wars cape or ardy cape w/ rapier. LOL 102 dung

[Levon_]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

I will have to disagree with you. Even though Prayer Potions are cheap, saving money in the end is always best. I second wearing Prosy Top and Verac's Skirt.

 

Disagreeing with facts is generally a bad idea

[Bladewing]

@ Bladewing the guy said what we use not what is the most efficient.

Never ever use bandos as veracs skirt and prossy plate are way better.

way better.

 

looks like a value assignment to me. could you justify why you say they are way better?

 

i've already done some of the grunt work for you - using proselyte, verac's skirt, and SW cape saves 24k an hour in prayer potions vs. bandos and fire cape. i'll also throw in the little-considered tidbit that at 99 summoning verac's skirt costs 3.1k an hour to use.

 

1 hour of making money could pay for using bandos instead of veracs and proselyte for 1900 hours. are you suggesting that 6 strength bonus has less than a 0.05% increase in slayer xp?

[Lose No Hope]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

I will have to disagree with you. Even though Prayer Potions are cheap, saving money in the end is always best. I second wearing Prosy Top and Verac's Skirt.

So spending an extra 24k per hr for faster kills is too expensive? Faster kills means more exp per hour and more efficiency, especially when the deciding factor is only a 24k loss per hour.

[JPMC Mate]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

I will have to disagree with you. Even though Prayer Potions are cheap, saving money in the end is always best. I second wearing Prosy Top and Verac's Skirt.

So spending an extra 24k per hr for faster kills is too expensive? Faster kills means more exp per hour and more efficiency, especially when the deciding factor is only a 24k loss per hour.

How does a +6 str bonus make any significant difference?

[Bladewing]

the question is: does it make a 0.05% difference or more?

 

the answer is yes - 0.05% difference comes out to 1 extra abyssal demon killed per 5 hours

[Crossed_Body]

looks like a value assignment to me. could you justify why you say they are way better?

 

i've already done some of the grunt work for you - using proselyte, verac's skirt, and SW cape saves 24k an hour in prayer potions vs. bandos and fire cape. i'll also throw in the little-considered tidbit that at 99 summoning verac's skirt costs 3.1k an hour to use.

 

1 hour of making money could pay for using bandos instead of veracs and proselyte for 1900 hours. are you suggesting that 6 strength bonus has less than a 0.05% increase in slayer xp?

 

That's going to depend on whether or not you're going to bank due to the extra prayer pots, and whether or not +6 strenght has a noticeable effect in the long run, compared to the money and time saved (if you need to bank).

[Levon_]

Top slayer gear with bandos:

147 strength, 9 prayer

 

With turmoil only, ~11.1 p pots/hour

With turmoil and deflect melee, ~18.6 p pots/hour

 

Top slayer gear with prossy top and verac skirt

141 strength, 19 prayer

 

with turmoil only, ~8.8 p pots/hour, ~14496 gp saved /hour

with turmoil and delfect melee, ~14.8 p pots/hour, ~23951 gp saved /hour

 

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Oh yes, you really save tons of money. Not to mention you can subract another like 3k or something from that due to veracs repair cost LOL.

[Zaaps1]

looks like a value assignment to me. could you justify why you say they are way better?

 

i've already done some of the grunt work for you - using proselyte, verac's skirt, and SW cape saves 24k an hour in prayer potions vs. bandos and fire cape. i'll also throw in the little-considered tidbit that at 99 summoning verac's skirt costs 3.1k an hour to use.

 

1 hour of making money could pay for using bandos instead of veracs and proselyte for 1900 hours. are you suggesting that 6 strength bonus has less than a 0.05% increase in slayer xp?

 

That's going to depend on whether or not you're going to bank due to the extra prayer pots, and whether or not +6 strenght has a noticeable effect in the long run, compared to the money and time saved (if you need to bank).

 

Why would you need to bank when you can finish tasks in one trip anyway?

[Lose No Hope]

The most efficient way to slay is in bandos and firecape. turmoiling everything. You want to maximize strength bonus, and prayer bonus is never an issue, p pots are incredibly cheap and you will still always profit from slayer

I will have to disagree with you. Even though Prayer Potions are cheap, saving money in the end is always best. I second wearing Prosy Top and Verac's Skirt.

So spending an extra 24k per hr for faster kills is too expensive? Faster kills means more exp per hour and more efficiency, especially when the deciding factor is only a 24k loss per hour.

How does a +6 str bonus make any significant difference?

Faster kills and in the long run the time saved from those higher hits. It's the equivalent of asking why to spend 5m on a berserker ring.

[JPMC Mate]

I am just arguing in general. If you have just enough $ for bandos, then obviously you shouldn't spend all of your money just for bandos.

[Crossed_Body]

Why would you need to bank when you can finish tasks in one trip anyway?

 

You can finish tasks in one trip, sure. But can OP?

Depending on the task, the extra prayer potions can and will force you to bank at lower levels.

[Lose No Hope]

I am just arguing in general. If you have just enough $ for bandos, then obviously you shouldn't spend all of your money just for bandos.

If the only goal is to train combat, especially through slayer, what use is the money in your bank while using gear that isn't as good as the gear you can afford?

[JPMC Mate]

I am just arguing in general. If you have just enough $ for bandos, then obviously you shouldn't spend all of your money just for bandos.

If the only goal is to train combat, especially through slayer, what use is the money in your bank while using gear that isn't as good as the gear you can afford?

Give me one time when spending all your $ is a good thing?

[Zaaps1]

Why would you need to bank when you can finish tasks in one trip anyway?

 

You can finish tasks in one trip, sure. But can OP?

Depending on the task, the extra prayer potions can and will force you to bank at lower levels.

 

Yup, sure can. Unless it's a dragon task and OP is not going to baby dragons.

 

If one is using Duradel or Kuradal, you really should be able to do all the tasks without banking if you use good gear and cannon when appropriate. My range is only a little higher than OP's melees, and I can range every Kura task without banking, again exception would be dragon tasks without a yak.

[Levon_]

I am just arguing in general. If you have just enough $ for bandos, then obviously you shouldn't spend all of your money just for bandos.

If the only goal is to train combat, especially through slayer, what use is the money in your bank while using gear that isn't as good as the gear you can afford?

Give me one time when spending all your $ is a good thing?

 

Its always a good thing. Having something that allows you to gain faster experience or gp is better than having a useless pile of cash.

[Crossed_Body]

If the only goal is to train combat, especially through slayer, what use is the money in your bank while using gear that isn't as good as the gear you can afford?

It's money the OP could spend on getting a few yet very valuable herblore levels. As far as I know, Extremes are still more valuable than bandos.

[JPMC Mate]

I am just arguing in general. If you have just enough $ for bandos, then obviously you shouldn't spend all of your money just for bandos.

If the only goal is to train combat, especially through slayer, what use is the money in your bank while using gear that isn't as good as the gear you can afford?

Give me one time when spending all your $ is a good thing?

 

Its always a good thing. Having something that allows you to gain faster experience or gp is better than having a useless pile of cash.

So let's say you have enough $ and charms for a certain summoning level and once you achieve that certain level, you will be flat broke. Would it still be worth it, and if so, how?