Europa Universalis 3

[Nero]

*Cough*

Please stop lumping me together with the lazy people when I spent a number of hours trying to get your darned game working and got no help at all. <_<

Ok everybody but Arch is lazy.

 

Did you move it to C:\Program Files\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis III

and then try and install the patch?

[Resistance]

Nero, your money has been refurbished by file2drive or whatever.

[Icuownage]

I did exactly as instructed by you, and by Paradox, neither have worked. XD

[Retech]

We could play the base game of HTTT. :P

 

WURS

[Icuownage]

Also my game of Britain has been going good.

 

My first mission was to conquer the whole of Ireland, so free casus beli's for annexation with no infamy. God's gift basically, and as it was early, they had no allies, so I quickly declared war and owned their asses. My next mission was the secure Caux and Normandie, which very luckily for me was an easy grab, as France was in a war with Sicily Provence Bohemia and some other country that had their entire army occupied (and later defeated). After this, I started getting subjigation missions, so my vassals are Provence, Scotland and some French country beginning with A. Anywho, I pretty much rose to maximum power in the world because of this. Another war with France cause I was bored, and most of southern France was mine! Lately I've been in a gigantic war against Aragon Portugal and France (Aragon is the second European power, as they conquered most of Castille and inherited Brittany). Which is pretty much ended in a stalemate (I did get a white peace and accepted, but I forgot to save).

[Nero]

Nero, your money has been refurbished by file2drive or whatever.

Ty

[Retech]

Decided to start a new game because I didn't want Muslims in my empire.

 

So now I'm ramming through the Italian peninsula!

[Icuownage]

My game as Sicily went pretty cool.

 

As I was an ally with Aragon, I got dragged into war with Sardina, but my troops arrived first, meant I could annex them, and Aragon seemed okay with that. Naples army got destroyed by France, right as I got a mission on them, so they were an easy annexation (even though that wasn't the mission), Tuscunny and Urbino become my vassals. I conquer the Papal states. Modena, Pisa become vassals. I own Venice*.

 

All going pretty good, except my infamy is 20 something, and Austria is a gigantic blob, and they hate me. Oh and I neighbour them.

[Retech]

Too bad for Naples in your game. In my game, I smashed Sicily right off the bat after they allied with the Pope and broke their alliance with Aragon (big mistake), and proceeded to annex them once the truce ended.

 

I think I'm in a relatively good position right now. Three or four universities gained (just waiting for cores to form Italy) and 1000 ducats just waiting to be used for workshops and colonization, once I get the technology levels. Hopefully the other Europeans will ignore my infamy of 35 and excommunication. :)

[Icuownage]

Infamy of 35? I think that's near the limit of everyone who borders you auto declares war unless they're your ally. I'm not sure if infamy is badboy in this game, but if it is you is gunna diiiiiie.

 

I got to infamy 29 as Sicily, and Austra/Burgundy/Castille/Foux/Granada/Two middle eastern countries declared war on me (seperate wars), and I only lost one war, which was against Austria, but this was only cause I decided to end it early, and they were against a white peace, even though I held 5 provinces and they held none. I gained around 600 ducats, and lost 25.

 

1000 ducats is crazy, I never keep money, incase I get dragged into a war I cannot win and they ask for it.

[Retech]

Well I remembered to convert to a despotic monarchy just before I force-annexed Tuscany, Urbino, Rome, Siena, and Pisa, so thankfully all the countries didn't go rogue and smash me to pieces. It was a pretty close call, but it should have lowered enough within ten or twenty years so I can switch to Noble republic (great for inheriting! :D).

 

Currently I am just waiting for cores (50 years, yikes), but I have five merchants in both Venizia and Lubeck (nice 250 ducats a year combined), making around 100 ducats a year with 0.20 inflation, so I should have thousands of ducats for when I need to colonize or build a twenty stack of calvary to defend myself from whoever tries to steal my money. I am thinking that each of my provinces should have a workshop (+2 tax income), a courthouse (-2 revolt risk), and a constable (+2 revolt risk, +50% tax) just to wipe the floor clean with money. It is hilarious, because I am making as much money as Castille or France atm.

 

After smashing so many weak nations, my prestige is hovering around 90. Love strong economy. :thumbsup:

[archimage_a]

Psht.

Broke alliance with Grenada, colonised Western Africa and Easten Brazil, extended up to Cuba and down to the base of South America.

Algeria starts a war with Great Britian, my super navy beats Britian's twice, then their uber navy appears and smashes mine, though their whole transport fleet is gone by this point so I don't care too much...since I still have my South America Fleet...I Liberate Genoa, Albania, Grenada, Portugual, Scotland and Wales in a number of wars...then Annex Roma, and convert it to muslim faith in less than a year.

 

Then Europe finally broke to 20 Land and Sea, overtaking me after I screwed up keeping my alliance with Algeria in a -2 stability war, followed by Centralising and getting a minus 1 and then, on top of that random destablising events taking me down to -3 in five minutes. Quickly followed by my Sultan dying and the heir being 2 years old.

 

I abandon inflation keeping tactics and switch to 4, 5 and 3 star General Marshals(Or whatever they are called that increase legitmacy), and began culling my armies, while hiking up my navy to absorb any threats. Which worked quite well in the second war of British Aggression...so well in fact that I blockaded London.

 

Then I lost interest because I couldn't unsteam it and I was neglecting Space...That, and the game's ridiculous war system was finally getting to me.

[Retech]

It seems that you are a "world war" starting kinda player. You seem to maintain an extensive network of alliances and treaties, designed to keep your enemies at bay.

 

Meanwhile, I just look at stuff that happens to be my core and I smash it to pieces, trying to sneak a war when its allies as distracted. I guess that's why I always have skyhigh infamy. :)

[Icuownage]

It's always great to have an abundance of alliances, it can drag you into stability free wars (sometimes) and can REALLY come in handy when a huge nation declares war on you. The main downside is if you ally with large nations, they tend to fight large nations, it's a vicious war to be dragged into if you're bordering the enemy country.

 

I feel my style of gameplay is aggressive. But I will never declare without a casus beli, ever, it is rarely worth it.

[archimage_a]

I had 2 alliances. Algeria and Hansa.

 

The former because they were the only country with the ability to launch a land assault on me without naval assistance...as well as being generally handy to have as a neighbour.

The latter because I wanted to know if a muslim country could ally with a European country...That and I was netting over 1,000 a month in Trade revenue and Lubuck(their city) was a guarenteed source of 200 odd of that...and being part of their trade league meant I spent about 20 a year on merchants...so I had my finger in every pie.

 

I create vassles instead of extensions because defending forty different states with no connection between them is sloppy...while my huge Empire, with only 6 Islands(Africa, South America, Canaries, Azores, another one off the coast of Africa, and the Carribean) Of which only 2 needed a defence force, and of which only 1 need a defence force in double figures.

 

My method keeps infamy low, stability high, and gives me a massive empire to boot.

[Retech]

I'm pretty sure that's 2,000 a year?

[archimage_a]

I was way up till the reformation...Which hit Hansa!

The whole Hansatic league breaks down overnight and it is me and some country in Russia remaining in it.

Lubeck loses money hand over fist, while I am spending hundreds in keeping my vast trade empire running. <_<

[Nero]

Well I remembered to convert to a despotic monarchy just before I force-annexed Tuscany, Urbino, Rome, Siena, and Pisa, so thankfully all the countries didn't go rogue and smash me to pieces. It was a pretty close call, but it should have lowered enough within ten or twenty years so I can switch to Noble republic (great for inheriting! :D).

Republics cant have unions

[Retech]

Did it change from IN?

 

I thought Noble republics were the only republics to have unions (since they're run by aristocrats and stuff)

[Nero]

They can't, no. It would be way too imbalanced.

[Icuownage]

I don't understand the rules about personal unions and inheritance. How do you inherit something and how do you get into a personal union?

[Retech]

Personal Union:

 

Basically you have a royal marriage and then the other country's king dies without an heir. Now your leader is the leader of the personal union (or vice versa if your king does).

 

Inheritence:

 

When your king, which is the leader of the personal union, dies, there is a small chance (10%ish base and higher depending on how large your country is compared) that you get all their territories and cores on them.

[Icuownage]

So to get into a personal union you need to claim the throne?

[Retech]

That is one way, through claiming a throne and then warfare (or actually, fabricate claims).

 

 

The second way is to just wait around for their king to die and get into a personal union once in a while.

[Nero]

Or you could claim the throne and then just wait for the other King to die, though if they get an heir before that you lose the claim.