Session in 1hr. Roll call, who's coming?

 

Nero - Wallachia

Sprok - Sardinia-Piedmont

Archi - Bohemia

Dungeonal - Portugal

Icu - England

Paul - The Hansa

Games is up. If you are late, join the mumble and let me know and we'll rehost.

So, one Century in, The Archi Dynasty reports:

Morroco has colonised South America, but is suffering rampant inflation and is at the mercy of Portugal.

Japan is united, but no one wants to be, so rebels EVERYWHERE

And Bohemia is larger than ever it was, but there are rebels everywhere...again...

 

 

So, to summerise...I don't do a good job as a expansionalist =P

Sorry about missing the session. How did it go?

Good. Would be better if people showed up though.

I'm good for Thursday and Saturday. Had to stay at school today.

Session in 30 mins

Oh wow didn't notice it was 5 GMT not EST. I'd be down for doing the Morocco/Spain/India session today though.

Cool. I am ready to start whenever.

40 minutes? I have to make supper.

Ok. Out of interest, some of my saves develop faults, so do you have a copy of the save?

I'm good for a game is I remain awake

Coolie, I am watching the X-Men trilogy (Saw the new one few days ago, extremely good film...not overactiony at all =))

 

Anyway, I am ready to start as soon as Spork is back.

I'll jump in on that game.

Ok, I am gonna start the session in 20 minutes.

Well I think Icu set a new record for dumbest reason to ragequit a game ever. He lost 9 galleys and 2 carracks in a war against the AI Naples and dedcided that the game had set his naval slider to 0 on its own and the loss of so many galley (9.......) was too irreversable a loss to his own economy that Algiers was condemned to a slow and painful destruction.

 

I'm rather hesitant to allow Icu to join any games I am hosting, as I am concerned that since such a relatively small loss provoked such an extreme reaction, what would happen if he had lost 20 galleys? A heart attack? No, the risk to his health is too much, so Icu, I'm not going to allow you into any more EU3 games I'm hosting. It's for your own safety.

My relatively small economy?

 

I was in - double digits a year, I can't remember specfically. I had like 20 ducats remaining, my 6000 troops were now stranded on sardina, my country was open to the naples army, I had 0 stability, and 4.2 infaltion.

 

It was frankly unwinnable, although I had a 4000 man army in algiers, it wouldn't have done much to the larger and probably better lead Naples army.

 

Even by your gifted nature at this game, it would be hard to win, and as I am not you I definately had no chance.

 

The best you could have done would probably be to take out ANOTHER (I already had one out) loan, and to pay for a small force to repel the Naples army, you wait out the war defensively until they white peace out due to the high WE of losing troops to attacking, and then what are you left with? Every year that the war goes on you probably would of had to have taken another loan. Now you could have said I could have gotten loaned money by one of you guys, but using that as a last minute bail every time something goes wrong would make the game just simply boring.

I'm losing 60 ducats a year, have 6.7 inflation, are at war with the biggest military power in the world (The Timurids), and its taking me a decade to gain a single stability point.

 

Here's what would happen in your scenario:

 

You lose the war.

 

Big deal.

 

You peace out, reduce on sphere of influence, or give them some ducats, or revoke a core, or whatever. Doesn't matter. Your country doesn't fall apart and crash and burn because you lost a few ships and a couple troops.

 

I'd also like to remind you that it was YOU who declared war on Naples, not the other way around. The blame lies solely on your shoulders, and instead of taking it and saying "Alright, I learned something here, I won't make the same mistake again." you said "[bleep] this, this game screwed me over and changed my sliders around without me knowing it, Naples is OP, and this is [cabbage], I quit."

 

Seriously? I mean, Me, Arch, and Spork have all invested the same amount of time in the game as you, and in certain cases we have changed our plans because you were there. If you're just going to ragequit the game whenever something bad happens, there's no point in you joining, or if you do we should just declare war on you right away so you can leave and we can continue playing and not have to change our strategies because there's another player country.

 

So. Here's the choice. Man up and accept that you can make mistakes in this game, and just work towards fixing them. Or just stick to single player where you ragequitting out of a game affects only you. I have no patience for people who I wait for, have to contact to let know times and IP addresses, rehost, and occasionally have to drop what I am doing in game because they're under attack and are in need of assistance just suddenly deciding to quit for the most trivial [cabbage] reasons imaginable.

I have accepted the mistake, and never did I say Naples was OP.

 

I was very sure I checked the sliders, but a blunder like that is soo tiny yet so costly it kind of annoys you doesn't it? If it doesn't well then, I guess you're more used to a blunder than I am?

 

Also you changed your plans because of me? Short of me asking you to stay in war with Naples for like 2 months extra, which would have no effect on you at all, and you giving me libya (which I never even asked for, you simply said I can have it) I can't think of how any plans have changed.

 

Furthermore, you have the ability to fight the timurids cause, well duh, you have a [bleep] off huge army.

 

I made simple yet very costly mistakes that just pissed me off cause I thought I checked all of that, cause I normally do. Also the fact that getting a - stab event EVERY.GOD.DAMN.TIME I actually get to 2 stab, is just frankly annoying. Which only aggrevated me when it happened RIGHT after the incident.

 

I absolutely fail to believe you in my position would not have been pissed off.

My army isn't that big, my generals are just good.

 

If you weren't playing Algiers I would've claimed its throne the two times I could've and forced a personal union on it.

 

I would have been pissed if that had happened. And I would've taken out a loan and rebuilt my army in case Naples decided to invade me, and abandon my troops on sicily to their fate. I'd save rebuilding the navy until after the war, perhaps selling one of my easternmost provinces to Morocco in exchange for the funds.

 

Point is, I wouldn't have reached the conclusion that the past 4 hours of playing were pointless and ragequit.

Eh, we're all allowed to get angry at some point.

 

It's your choice if you want me back in any of your sessions, your session which already seem to dwindle in members.

Maybe Ico just wanted some time out...but didn't want to go through saying 'Hey, I am having a rough time, can we call it a day' because, unsuprisingly, he, like everyone else, is trying to impress you, master of Europa Uniwateveritis.

Eh, we're all allowed to get angry at some point.

 

It's your choice if you want me back in any of your sessions, your session which already seem to dwindle in members.

I have no problem with the sessions dwindling in numbers. It was probably a mistake assuming that most people here could handle a game where you can lose sometimes maturely.

 

It's really up to Spork and Archi. I say no, because I really don't feel like playing with someone who pulls that sort of stuff when we're just having a casual fun game. But democracy is a fine thing, and if Arch and Spork are fine with you rejoining then you can.

 

Maybe Ico just wanted some time out...but didn't want to go through saying 'Hey, I am having a rough time, can we call it a day' because, unsuprisingly, he, like everyone else, is trying to impress you, master of Europa Uniwateveritis.

I fail to see how ragequitting was meant to impress me. And why are people trying to impress me? That's just weird.

I fail to see how ragequitting was meant to impress me

 

Cause people do idiotic things when they feel like they have no alternative.

I'd like ICU back as long as he doesn't pull a raegquit again. I don't play EU3 to win, in fact one of my favorite things about Paradox games is there are no set victory conditions, so you can just play for fun, instead of having to do x by y date or you lose. I think if you look at ti that way, losing galleys is just another challenge to overcome, instead of a game ending event.

 

I'd like to see more people playing though. The game is only $30 or less in total with all expansions from Steam or Gamersgate, and it's not that hard to acquire in other ways if you absolutely can't afford it. (Srsly though, buy paradox games, especially if you 'borrow' them first. They're probably the most honest devs out there, a model other companies should follow)