Wessan Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I know it is widely accepted to not use RoW, but I decided to anyway when I went to fight the Tormented Wraith. I noticed that after every fight, the text box said: "Your Ring of Wealth shines more brightly!" Ive never seen this before, when was it added? and what does it do? I cannot find anything explaining it here or on Runescape.com. One more thing and I'll be posting it in the other forum: RoW does not affect Barrows according to Runescape.com, but it says it does on its entry here on Tip.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 It was updated, o for some monsters, you get that message every kill, while others it shines on a 'Rare drop table' drop (Also, I wanna go to the wraith again! :o ) It can also be chargd like a glory, giving it teleports. It does affect barrows aswell, due to update. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I use to love tomrented wraiths until they removed the safe spots..=( [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 It shines when the row has had an effect. Basically ignoring unique drops and 100% dropsThere is the drop table and rare drop table.Both of which act like a roulette wheel. If you land on the right slot on the drop table it sends you to the rare drop table (not all monsters have one but most too the old gems and half key are rare drop table so that gives you an idea)If you get on the rare drop table ring of wealth will shine and what it does is eliminate most (not all) of the empty slots. So tldr:Row shining means you were on the rare drop table opposed to the normal drop table.Monsters like wraith have virtually no drops on their own drop table so pretty much every kill you get sent to the rare drop table. As for barrows (and clues for that matter) when row was updated these were tweaked to count as "drops" and thus get effected by row. KB doesn't mentioned them separately because they are "drops"; proof being the row shining message appearing. (Not 100% sure on this but that's what I have gleamed in passing since row changes) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessan Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 I understand how it works in terms of the wheel and stuff, thanks for the info though. Basically ignoring unique drops and 100% drop. ^In terms of this however: What youre saying is that the RoW does not affect "unique drops" meaning things like Draconic Visage right? What would be other drops considered unique rather than just rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Any monster specific drop is a "unique drop"So most dragon items, visage, the d pl8 shards, sigils and the holy elixir (for spirit shield), armadyl armour, bandos armour, god sword bits, all the slayer drops (mystic, metal boots, whip, maul etc)Basically any drop that is specifically dropped by 1 monster and 1 monster only.In other words all the stuff players consider rare. And yeah row never has effected these and still doesn't Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 wat Dragon items aren't affected. Neither are visages and shards. EDIT: I just reread your post and have concluded that regardless of how your post is interpretted, you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessan Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 [cabbage] the ring of wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Let me clear things up since Sy seems a bit confused. when the row shines, it means it's improving your chance at a better drop. This could mean one of two things. 1. You landed on the rare drop table and the row is improving your odds at getting one of the rarer drops on the table.2. You have killed a monster with a drop that's specifically affected by the row. Items are determined on a case-by-case basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Let me clear things up since Sy seems a bit confused. when the row shines, it means it's improving your chance at a better drop. This could mean one of two things. 1. You landed on the rare drop table and the row is improving your odds at getting one of the rarer drops on the table.2. You have killed a monster with a drop that's specifically affected by the row. Items are determined on a case-by-case basis. 2 is wrong. There are no case-by-case items.Row works on the rare drop table that's it for monster drops, doesn't touch unique drops.There's not a single citation out there that supports your claim; or if there is I certainly can't find it and I've done a fair bit around the Row past week or so. Kb even references visage etc as "very rare" drops to specifically say they are not on the rare drop table which row affects:The rare drop table is shared between a variety of creatures - e.g. goblins, fire giants, most slayer creatures. A good way to tell if a creature has a rare drop table is if it is known to drop a half key; then it will drop other items from the rare drop table. There are, however, certain 'very rare' drops that are not on the rare drop table, because they are specific to certain enemies or enemy types (e.g. the draconic visage is only ever dropped by dragons; godsword pieces only by the God Wars Dungeon bosses) and it would not make sense for these items to be dropped by, say, a fire giant. The ring of wealth comes into play whenever you are rolling on the rare drop table.http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/magic_non_combat_magic Key phrases highlighted as they clearly state 'very rare' items are NOT on the rare drop table and that the row works when you are on the rare drop table. It was a long established theory that row did not work on unique drops and the update to it with the extra clarification of how it works only further confirmed that. I've not seen any proof of row affecting these unique/very rare drops or anything on a "case-by-case" basis as you put it other than random people saying it does on forums with no tangible proof attached. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Um...so what explains the fact that the RoW was affecting sigil drops on RoW rework day, leading to horrible exploitation? I'm fairly certain that the only bugged portion was the fact that it was stacking the affect with multiple clan mates, but the reality that the drops were affected at all lends credence to the notion that aside from the RDT, items on a case-by-case basis are affected by the RoW. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Sy, i believe you are wrong, when it mentions that the sigils are not on the rare drop table it means it's not on the drop table for all monsters. The drop table for all monsters include things like 50 rune bars, noted snaps, noted torstol, noted brews etc. The ROW does increase the chance of monster specific items but only if you're killing the monster which drops it, not killing fire giants for visage. It is generally accpeted that ROW does increase the chance of monster specific items hence why it worked in that dubious sigil glitch when ROW got updated. [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Ok so been googling around trying to find proof either way and the best I can find is this:http://www.webcitation.org/5yBlth0jmCache of that row update game update faq. But even that seems a bit contradictory in itself; though I do admit it does suggest I am wrong in a least part and case-by-case may be more appropriate:Confirms it works on sigils and abyssal whip but not on visage, but also that any monster with a unique drop that it DOES affect you'll get the shine message every single kill. Still find the general lack of proof for this a bit odd though, I mean you can even trawl google images and see there's no images where the row shine message shows up along side the unique drops which even accounting for lootshare kills not using it and it being added to spam filter (iirc) seems rather odd.But meh its not that brilliant either way. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 But meh its not that brilliant either way That all you need to know.... [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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