Calypsan Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Exactly the title. I heard the term a lot last night for the first time and it made me curious. Is there a new game I'm unaware of? Or is it maybe a scam since I heard it a lot near the GE and Edgy bank? Or...what? Sorry for sounding stupid. I'm just curious. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There is an item called the dice bag (bought from Faruq near the Al Kharid silk trader). It allows you to roll various kinds of dice to play games with. Basically, most dicing goes as follows:Host advertises 55x2, 60x2 or some other number (53-60 range)x2.Person joins the advertised friends chat.Person gives host a bet.Host rolls two 10-sided dice, result appears in friends chat. If result is over the advertised number, the host gives the person twice their bet.If the result is lower, the host keeps the bet.I'm not sure what happens when it's exactly the number advertised, the host probably wins. The above strategy is considered trust trading, so it's technically against jagex rules and player moderators will lose their crown if they are found advertising. It's legal to simply roll the dice and have either host or person pay up accordingly, but it means you have to trust whoever you're playing with, and dice hosts mainly depend on random passing noobs who don't realize that you always lose money. To refer to your question, it can be considered a scam even if the host pays out. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trust trading is perfectly within Jagex rules.Dicing is a pretty good way to make money if you host but you will have to pay a lot to get a rank in a popular clan chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I don't entirely see the logic of trust trading being against the rules. Dicing itself may be frowned upon by Jagex and Pmods losing their status for dicing I can accept as harsh but reasonable. But trust training completely not allowed? Then what was the point of giving us free trade back if not to let us "trust trade" on a regular basis with those we trust (a group which includes friends but certainly is not limited to)? If such passing noobs choose to trust a random stranger, then everyone is following the rules. The reasoning might be questionable, but the actions certainly are not punishable. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trust trading is perfectly within Jagex rules.Dicing is a pretty good way to make money if you host but you will have to pay a lot to get a rank in a popular clan chat.Define 'within Jagex rules'. It could be considered under 'encouraging rulebreaking', making it more likely that the host will item scam (which would be an offence by the person giving the money, not recieving). I think the reason it's frowned upon is the same reason we do not allow advertisements of dicing on Tip.It, that is, it's far too likely to be a scam. The following list of activities/groups may not be explicitly against RuneScape Rules, but Tip.It has taken a stance against them and they are not permitted on our forum. We are disallowing them because they are either against the spirit of the game, or have a high risk of involving scams. General discussions about them are okay, but advertisements are not permitted. This rule applies to: Trust trading Gambling (flower game, dice game, doubling money, etc.)LuringLoan programsPrice manipulation clans Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calypsan Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Guys no need to debate on my topic lol. Got my basic question answered. Thanks Quyneaux :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Trust trading is perfectly within Jagex rules.Dicing is a pretty good way to make money if you host but you will have to pay a lot to get a rank in a popular clan chat.Define 'within Jagex rules'. It could be considered under 'encouraging rulebreaking', making it more likely that the host will item scam (which would be an offence by the person giving the money, not recieving). I think the reason it's frowned upon is the same reason we do not allow advertisements of dicing on Tip.It, that is, it's far too likely to be a scam. The following list of activities/groups may not be explicitly against RuneScape Rules, but Tip.It has taken a stance against them and they are not permitted on our forum. We are disallowing them because they are either against the spirit of the game, or have a high risk of involving scams. General discussions about them are okay, but advertisements are not permitted. This rule applies to: Trust trading Gambling (flower game, dice game, doubling money, etc.)LuringLoan programsPrice manipulation clans Courtesy of the high level forums: Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 OK, that's good to know. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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