November 4, 201114 yr Karil's cbow has speed 6 according to the KB (shortbow speed) compared to crossbows being speed 4. with 99, void, rigour, and ext pot: Karil's cbow can hit up to 348, a dps of 193.33 if perfect accuracy.Broad bolts can hit up to 479, a dps of 159.66 if perfect accuracy.Rune bolts can hit up to 522, a dps of 174 if perfect accuracy. So, it seems that Karil's should have the best dps if the target has low defence. What would the cut-off point be?Are there any high-level monsters that Karil's cbow is better for than a rune/chaotic cbow with broad/rune bolts?
November 4, 201114 yr Cutoff is actually quite high. Not sure about the exact figure but it'll be easy to work out. Go go Grimy's sheets.
November 4, 201114 yr The accuracy bonus difference is pretty big due to being able to use void deflector with crossbows (ccbow is 68 higher accuracy bonus). On a slayer task, you don't use void, so Karil's crossbow is always better. I would use ccbow versus things like steel dragons at least, Karil's on bronze, not sure which on irons. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted
November 4, 201114 yr I thought void range was better than slayer helm for range slaying? Miseryism | Completionist
November 4, 201114 yr I thought void range was better than slayer helm for range slaying?You hit higher, but you lose a lot of accuracy bonus. Consider, with void, your max accuracy bonus with handcannon is: glaiven boots, archer's ring (i), alerter (comp cape but not many people have that), ranger's amulet and handcannon for a total of 128.With full slayer helmet: add Armadyl plate+legs, barrows/swift/merc gloves: 56 bonus + 12/13/15 for gloves.If you were slaying with sagaie or or bane bolts, the difference would be much smaller due to void deflector: an extra 63 for chaotic crossbow, an extra 43 for sagaie (both with void). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted
November 5, 201114 yr also if you are cannoning a task you really want the extra accuracy for your cannon. and if it's multi then you probably want a slay helm for scrolls. if you're not cannoning then you're probably in kuradal's dungeon, in which case dragon darts and arma is probably the best choice.
November 5, 201114 yr Isn't a god arrow 60 range strength? So wouldn't a mage shortbow with those be even higher DPS on low defense? Not to mention the bonus damage that i'm sure adds up.
November 5, 201114 yr It would be higher than karils ofc. Maybe higher than darts, but unlikely. but with god arrows you're paying around same per damage as you would be with SoA lol.
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