Duke_Freedom Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Let's not drop to a level of name calling in this topic, shall we? You're of the opinion that we have an unlimited supply of fresh water? On which planet is this? Do you think all the water on our earth will be gone within your lifetime? No? What is the difference between it being unlimited and limited then - for you it will be unlimited? Still not convinced? Ok it's not unlimited you say.. It's scarce. Fine. Why isn't coal in RuneScape scarce then? It definately costs a certain amount of time to get? And we all know that our time is scarce. No, we can't get the coal in any other way then spending time. In fact, we can't get any material or anything at all in RuneScape without spending time. And time is scarce, thus everything in RuneScape is scarce. Although I am troubled by certain things though. For example, the greater amount of one resource you have (ess, logs, etc.), the prices you can sell it for does not go down, but sometimes up. You mean the price of essence goes up for bulk lots? It's a convenience factor. Actually, you should have jumped on it and said that is a perfect example of how RuneScape's economy is not comparable to our real life economy. In our real life economy, bulk always sells lower then small amounts, which, for a big part, is a result of our mass-production techniques. In RuneScape, we have two types of items. Materials, which always sell higher in bulk, and finished consumer-products, which always sell lower in bulk. So why do materials behave so weirdly? People need millions of materials their skills and therefore bulk sells for more. Again, it's really time they are buying, because they are paying a higher price to evade the extra time you'd need to spend if you'd buy the materials in smaller amounts. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Do you think all the water on our earth will be gone within your lifetime? No? What is the difference between it being unlimited and limited then - for you it will be unlimited? It's quite possible that it will be. At any rate the scarcity and means of accessing water (and coal) in the real world is vastly different to that in the runescape world. In fact, we can't get any material or anything at all in RuneScape without spending time. And time is scarce, thus everything in RuneScape is scarce. Everything is scarce? More correctly it would be everything (at least as far as resources are concerned) is as scarce as everything else. I really don't see what point you're trying to make. You say it takes time to gather a resource... but that time is going to be spent doing one thing or another. Using your "everything is scarce" line of thought then the time taken is redundant. It takes much the same amount of time to fish an inventory of lobsters as it does to mine an inventory of coal. Remember again that I'm not saying that runescape doesn't have an "economy" of sorts. Actually, you should have jumped on it and said that is a perfect example of how RuneScape's economy is not comparable to our real life economy. No need. My point has already been made. In our real life economy, bulk always sells lower then small amounts, which, for a big part, is a result of our mass-production techniques. Which would be why my local supermarket sells 2kg bags of sugar for more than the price of two 1kg bags? In RuneScape, we have two types of items. Materials, which always sell higher in bulk, and finished consumer-products, which always sell lower in bulk. So why do materials behave so weirdly? People need millions of materials their skills and therefore bulk sells for more. Again, it's really time they are buying, because they are paying a higher price to evade the extra time you'd need to spend if you'd buy the materials in smaller amounts. Which is another difference from a real world economy. In the real world - aside from very specific intstances - most people are only interested in the finished product. I have no desire to boost my farming level to a point where I can grow wheat and raise chickens for eggs, then work on my cooking level to make a cake - when I could just go out and buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blad3lord Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In our real life economy, bulk always sells lower then small amounts, which, for a big part, is a result of our mass-production techniques. Which would be why my local supermarket sells 2kg bags of sugar for more than the price of two 1kg bags? There are examples where this is not true, but in general, bulk sells for less. (Go into your nearest Sam's Club or other bulk store if you don't believe me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In our real life economy, bulk always sells lower then small amounts, which, for a big part, is a result of our mass-production techniques. Which would be why my local supermarket sells 2kg bags of sugar for more than the price of two 1kg bags? There are examples where this is not true, but in general, bulk sells for less. (Go into your nearest Sam's Club or other bulk store if you don't believe me) "In general" is a lot different to "always". Go to your nearest dictionary if you don't believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedofsound Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 dgd this game teaches a valuable lesson of how a fast paced economey works in real life and also teaches the value of conserving money so may tip my hat to you word man worrrrrrrrrd You can't ever find a place that's nice and peaceful, because there isn't any. You may think there is, but once you get there, when you're not looking, somebody'll sneak up and write "(bleep) you" right under your nose. Try it sometime. I think, even, if I ever die, and they stick me in a cemetery, and I have a tombstone and all, it'll say "Holden Caulfield" on it, and then what year I was born and what year I died, and then right under that it'll say "(bleep) you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgd1788 Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Mods, feel free to lock this thread, as I have lost my train of thought thank you very much :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'd say that happened before the first post :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Using your "everything is scarce" line of thought then the time taken is redundant. It takes much the same amount of time to fish an inventory of lobsters as it does to mine an inventory of coal. Price lob = price coal because they take about the same (scarce) time to get? Ofcourse, it essentially only matters how much time getting one item costs relative to another one - that is according to all real life economic rules though. ~Locked on request The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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