Chinning Set-Up

[Cheat]

How is this set-up for chinning? Correct amount of overloads to PPots? Should I bring some Prayer Renewals if so how many? Is Ava's or Soul Wars cape better equally Fury or Amulet of Ranging? Cheers.

 

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[Miss Lioness]

I myself would use Fury for its overall bonus (pray and ranged) while keeping to ava =3.

[JeRambo]

One renewal for each overload. Bring flasks if you can.

[Vezon Dash]

Since I just chinned to 99, I'd like to think that I know what I'm talking about here..... You will need 1 more overload. You should also use a Fury and SW Cape instead.

[Platinum_Myr]

It depends on how long you want a trip to last. Assuming you want it to maximize your trip space, here are some calculations I made using the tip.it prayer drain calculator. Stick to maximum ranged bonus, you want accuracy more than prayer increase. Fury won't help much since the prayer bonus is smaller. I am going to start by assuming rigour, but i will try to make calculations for rigour or eagle eye.

 

If you have 4 overloads, and 4 renews, + 4 wasted spaces that leaves 16 prayer pots. With the listed bonuses, you will be at 70 minute trips. If you swap out for the soulwars cape then you last for 95 minutes while you only have overloads for 80 minutes. Assuming that you use fury, then 4 overloads + 4 renews, 16 pray points should last 80 minutes, sacrificing +5 range bonus to last the extra 10 minutes of your overloads.

 

If you only have eagle eye, you last 89 minutes without the fury so its best to stick to the amulet of ranging. If you want to use only eagle eye but last an extra 4 doses of overload, you can use the fury and last almost 100 minutes so

 

TL;DR:

If you have rigour, take 4 overloads, 4 renews, 16 prayer potions, and you will last for just the length of your overloads. Assuming amulet of fury.

 

If you have eagle eye, either take 4 overloads, 4 renews, 16 pray pots and amulet of ranging, or 5 overloads 5 renews and 14 pray pots, amulet of fury

 

Or:

Take amulet of ranging, and leave at 2 doses of overload left when prayer runs out. This maximises your range bonus. You can always bank and come back, but maximum ranged bonus means fewer misses. Remember a miss means no hits at all, and a hit means all targets will be hit. (This assumes rigour, which I don't know if you have)

[Vezon Dash]

I could very easily make 120 minute trips using 13 p pots, and 5 renewals.

[Quyneax]

I would use a Soul Wars cape but not a fury. 12 prayer vs. 5 ranged attack or 5 prayer vs. 5 ranged attack, there's quite a difference.

[Platinum_Myr]

I would use a Soul Wars cape but not a fury. 12 prayer vs. 5 ranged attack or 5 prayer vs. 5 ranged attack, there's quite a difference.

 

Correct, I hadn't noticed it was the same difference. Using soulwars cape, my results from tip.it's calculator is

 

As for how long the runs are, I would personally rather maximize my ranged bonus over prayer, as I can always bank more. The potions are cheap while the chins are not as cheap.

 

If you use a soulwars cape and fury, (no flasks!), 95 prayer and reverance, you can do: 12 slots for renews + overloads, 4 slots for other, and 14 prayer potions is only 108 minutes long. If you had greater reverance its 113 minutes long. If you add a single extra potion and forgo the rocktail, it is 120 minutes.

 

It really depends on a lot of factors. I would personally rather have +10 more range bonus than to last twice as long because banking is easy enough, and I would miss fewer times on tossing chins.

 

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Venzon, what was your prayer bonus, and you do know that 5 renews is roughly only 100 minutes? Also were you using rigour (as I was assuming) or eagle eye? That is a huge difference in drain rates.

[Quyneax]

I'm not sure what the dps increase of another 5 ranged attack is, but let's say you use a soul wars cape/elite void skirt/acp for a nice +17 prayer bonus. Your base drain is 10 points/second (2/3 rigour 1/3 prot melee), multiplied by 30/47, so 300/47.

On the other hand you have a setup with 5 more ranged attack and 5 prayer bonus. Base drain 10/s and effective drain 300/35. E.g. one setup will allow you to last roughly a third longer (little less because you need to carry more overloads/familiars etc. but a little more because the higher prayer bonus allows more restore through renewals. So yeah).

 

30857 and 22978 prayer per hour respectively. 6000 can be restored by renewals, so you need 24857 and 16978 points respectively. 307 points per regular prayer dose.

That's 81 doses per hour vs. 55 doses, roughly. You got ~3 doses stored in your prayer level so there's some leeway plus you can always bring 1 flask or something.

So the high-ranged setup will allow 3 ovl/renewal + 19-20 pray pots and 2-3 other items. The setup with more prayer would have only 14-15 pray pots, enough to last 1 more overload - 4 ovl/renewal + 19 pray pots + 1 more item (I suppose you'll want to flask your ovl/renewal at this point and save 2 spaces that way).

 

The question is, does +5 ranged attack beat having to bank one extra time every 4 hours.

[Vezon Dash]

My set up was complete shit.

 

 

 

I was using Eagle Eye since purchasing Rigour at 75 Ranged is a poor decision. I was also packing the holy wrench if that honestly making any difference. I also have 95 prayer for the record.

[Bxpprod]

Flasks to begin with. Personally, I switched out my ring for a Ring of Life, but if you're confident with your connection and you're ability to PoQ if you run out of prayer and the like, keep the archers. You definitely want a 1:1 ratio of overloads:renewals (and I'd have flasks for everything as mentioned).

 

I would also suggest, switching out the super-anti for Antipoison++. Longer lasting protection.