sable152 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 i wanna kill some fiends for some charms but i need to know a good setup and weapon that still allows me to train def using crush D: Stats:80 attack79 strength88 defence85 hp69 summoning so whats good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 There are only like 4 weapons worth using on waterfiends. Zamorakian spear, Saradomin Sword, Goliaths and Chaotic maul. Maul/Goliaths are the only ones you can train def with. You could get the ZS and train controlled with it. If you aren't using one of those 4 weapons, you probably shouldn't kill waterfiends. (Unless you have the maul, forget about training def.) As for setup.... Along with the weapons mentioned, you'll want range armour for body/legs, for magic def. Dunno what your range level is but the best options are either karil or royal dragonhide. Probably royal dragonhide because I think it's a lot cheaper. Neitiznot is probably the best helm. SW/Firecape are the recommended capes to use like everywhere, but if you don't have it, look for something prayer boosting like the God cloaks or Ardougne cape. Faling that, obsidian. Gloves are the best RFD gloves you have. Boots are dragon boots. Also, you'll want to use super att/str potions and prayer potions to pray piety/ranged prayer. They're worth it and not as expensive as you think. If you don't have piety, chances are you should use the next best pray. Also, super def pots might help you out. Not sure on those. You'll also want to use a bunyip there and use the swallow whole scroll. 2 Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 There are only like 4 weapons worth using on waterfiends. Zamorakian spear, Saradomin Sword, Goliaths and Chaotic maul. Maul/Goliaths are the only ones you can train def with. You could get the ZS and train controlled with it. If you aren't using one of those 4 weapons, you probably shouldn't kill waterfiends. (Unless you have the maul, forget about training def.) As for setup.... Along with the weapons mentioned, you'll want range armour for body/legs, for magic def. Dunno what your range level is but the best options are either karil or royal dragonhide. Probably royal dragonhide because I think it's a lot cheaper. Neitiznot is probably the best helm. SW/Firecape are the recommended capes to use like everywhere, but if you don't have it, look for something prayer boosting like the God cloaks or Ardougne cape. Faling that, obsidian. Gloves are the best RFD gloves you have. Boots are dragon boots. Also, you'll want to use super att/str potions and prayer potions to pray piety/ranged prayer. They're worth it and not as expensive as you think. If you don't have piety, chances are you should use the next best pray. Also, super def pots might help you out. Not sure on those. You'll also want to use a bunyip there and use the swallow whole scroll. Good advice. I have a few things to add. Karil's is pretty cheap now, and it far outclasses royal's magic defence. I hear a chaotic rapier works quite well at waterfiends; its brute force makes up for the non-crush attack style. If you happen to have one, go ahead and try it out. I'd really recommend training strength before defence, as it'll speed all your melee leveling up in the long run, but that's more of your choice. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Karil's is pretty cheap now, and it far outclasses royal's magic defence. I hear a chaotic rapier works quite well at waterfiends; its brute force makes up for the non-crush attack style. If you happen to have one, go ahead and try it out.Dragonhide does work fairly well if you're on a budget, though. If you want to train defense you'll have to either use a chaotic weapon or goliaths, since the Zspear only does controlled on crush and the Sara sword trains strength. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Chaotic Rapier is greater than maul even though its stab, because of the high accuracy bonus and its a lot faster. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooey C. Deschanel Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Best one is the Gol GlovesLowers stats randomly and best DPSAt your level maul/gloves dont seem possible (not judging)So i recomend Sara sword or Godsword on crush Preferring BGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Never use godsword on crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable152 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 maul/goliaths arent very realistic right now and i only have abt 4m cash if that helps with suggestions any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 No offense, but I suggest you make more money then >_> Waterfiends are absolutely horrible to kill if you don't have the right gear. And the ZS alone is just under 4m. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable152 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 ah makin money is no problem. got hacked last week and lost 50m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Goliath gloves are the best weapon of choice. Unlock them, its definitely worth it. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Chaotic Rapier is greater than maul even though its stab, because of the high accuracy bonus and its a lot faster. Wrong. Rapier at near maxed stats, extremes and piety/turmoil is on par with maul. At OP's stats a rapier will be bad, plain and simple. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 shrjyrayjeskryes No, Tieszen, it's not. Or at least, we don't know yet. The whole rapier thing is inconclusive because no one ever bothered to get wfs crush defense rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 So would anybody be able to compare to me the effectiveness of maul vs rapier at 85 melee's or is there just not enough information? (Basically turning into the Waterfiends are weak to crush topic :P) [spoiler=By somebody..]I of course mean the amazing Meredith. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I can tell you your dps with a rapier, but not with a maul. Funny, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable152 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 so much for helpin me last few posts are arguements.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Don't camp waterfiends if you don't have ss, zs, goliaths or cmaul, period. Burst rock lobsters instead. Use defensive casting if you really must. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Gear : elite void (deflector if using Goliath gloves), fury, berserker ring (i), dragon boots, kiln>fire>sw cape, weapon =golaith gloves >cmaul>sarasword>zspear. Pray piety/turmoil the whole time, pray range with a bunyip and bring an we for additional healing. If you have turmoil just soul split the whole time. Use the highest att str potions you can as well. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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