i wanna kill some fiends for some charms but i need to know a good setup and weapon that still allows me to train def using crush D:

 

Stats:

80 attack

79 strength

88 defence

85 hp

69 summoning

 

so whats good?

There are only like 4 weapons worth using on waterfiends. Zamorakian spear, Saradomin Sword, Goliaths and Chaotic maul. Maul/Goliaths are the only ones you can train def with. You could get the ZS and train controlled with it. If you aren't using one of those 4 weapons, you probably shouldn't kill waterfiends. (Unless you have the maul, forget about training def.) As for setup....

 

Along with the weapons mentioned, you'll want range armour for body/legs, for magic def. Dunno what your range level is but the best options are either karil or royal dragonhide. Probably royal dragonhide because I think it's a lot cheaper. Neitiznot is probably the best helm. SW/Firecape are the recommended capes to use like everywhere, but if you don't have it, look for something prayer boosting like the God cloaks or Ardougne cape. Faling that, obsidian. Gloves are the best RFD gloves you have. Boots are dragon boots.

 

Also, you'll want to use super att/str potions and prayer potions to pray piety/ranged prayer. They're worth it and not as expensive as you think. If you don't have piety, chances are you should use the next best pray. Also, super def pots might help you out. Not sure on those.

 

You'll also want to use a bunyip there and use the swallow whole scroll.

There are only like 4 weapons worth using on waterfiends. Zamorakian spear, Saradomin Sword, Goliaths and Chaotic maul. Maul/Goliaths are the only ones you can train def with. You could get the ZS and train controlled with it. If you aren't using one of those 4 weapons, you probably shouldn't kill waterfiends. (Unless you have the maul, forget about training def.) As for setup....

 

Along with the weapons mentioned, you'll want range armour for body/legs, for magic def. Dunno what your range level is but the best options are either karil or royal dragonhide. Probably royal dragonhide because I think it's a lot cheaper. Neitiznot is probably the best helm. SW/Firecape are the recommended capes to use like everywhere, but if you don't have it, look for something prayer boosting like the God cloaks or Ardougne cape. Faling that, obsidian. Gloves are the best RFD gloves you have. Boots are dragon boots.

 

Also, you'll want to use super att/str potions and prayer potions to pray piety/ranged prayer. They're worth it and not as expensive as you think. If you don't have piety, chances are you should use the next best pray. Also, super def pots might help you out. Not sure on those.

 

You'll also want to use a bunyip there and use the swallow whole scroll.

 

Good advice. I have a few things to add.

 

Karil's is pretty cheap now, and it far outclasses royal's magic defence. I hear a chaotic rapier works quite well at waterfiends; its brute force makes up for the non-crush attack style. If you happen to have one, go ahead and try it out.

 

I'd really recommend training strength before defence, as it'll speed all your melee leveling up in the long run, but that's more of your choice.

Karil's is pretty cheap now, and it far outclasses royal's magic defence. I hear a chaotic rapier works quite well at waterfiends; its brute force makes up for the non-crush attack style. If you happen to have one, go ahead and try it out.

Dragonhide does work fairly well if you're on a budget, though.

 

If you want to train defense you'll have to either use a chaotic weapon or goliaths, since the Zspear only does controlled on crush and the Sara sword trains strength.

Chaotic Rapier is greater than maul even though its stab, because of the high accuracy bonus and its a lot faster.

Best one is the Gol Gloves

Lowers stats randomly and best DPS

At your level maul/gloves dont seem possible (not judging)

So i recomend Sara sword or Godsword on crush

Preferring BGS

Never use godsword on crush.

maul/goliaths arent very realistic right now and i only have abt 4m cash if that helps with suggestions any

No offense, but I suggest you make more money then >_>

 

Waterfiends are absolutely horrible to kill if you don't have the right gear. And the ZS alone is just under 4m.

ah makin money is no problem. got hacked last week and lost 50m

Goliath gloves are the best weapon of choice. Unlock them, its definitely worth it.

Chaotic Rapier is greater than maul even though its stab, because of the high accuracy bonus and its a lot faster.

 

Wrong. Rapier at near maxed stats, extremes and piety/turmoil is on par with maul. At OP's stats a rapier will be bad, plain and simple.

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No, Tieszen, it's not. Or at least, we don't know yet. The whole rapier thing is inconclusive because no one ever bothered to get wfs crush defense rating.

So would anybody be able to compare to me the effectiveness of maul vs rapier at 85 melee's or is there just not enough information? (Basically turning into the Waterfiends are weak to crush topic :P)

 

[spoiler=By somebody..]I of course mean the amazing Meredith.

 

I can tell you your dps with a rapier, but not with a maul. Funny, huh?

so much for helpin me last few posts are arguements..

Don't camp waterfiends if you don't have ss, zs, goliaths or cmaul, period.

 

Burst rock lobsters instead. Use defensive casting if you really must.

Gear : elite void (deflector if using Goliath gloves), fury, berserker ring (i), dragon boots, kiln>fire>sw cape, weapon =golaith gloves >cmaul>sarasword>zspear.

 

Pray piety/turmoil the whole time, pray range with a bunyip and bring an we for additional healing. If you have turmoil just soul split the whole time. Use the highest att str potions you can as well.