Purecheese Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Bk never intended to "betray" the allaince, only to do what was best for our clan, we wanted to keep relations with them strong but with all the flameing it became impossibleSure there were issues between the members of different alliance clans. The other alliance clans dealt with them just as Bk did and it sure enough did cost a lot of time. Time that has proven to be well worth it over the years. The alliance has always provided an extra hand to get up when in trouble. We've used it when we were in need of forums after ours had gotten hacked for the 100th time and so have other alliance clans. Sure the alliance had it's downside, it wasn't to good for the name of the clans in it. Certain clans basically claimed that we depended on eachother to get anything done. Sure it restricts us in potential pking and war targets. I can understand that Bk wanted to leave the alliance for the reasons stated, wether I agree with them or not. That's definately not why I and others were angry over bk leaving the alliance. The problem is the way in which you left the alliance. There was no communication, nothing. You guys were just out of the alliance all at once,your own members had to find out that you'd left on our clan forums. It happened with that much hurry. The clan community congratulated you on the good move of leaving the alliance. Bk gladly took that as compliment, which is the same as telling a good friend that he can [bleep] of, for nothing that he can do something about, and then accept that other people are applauding the move. That's nothing less then backstabbing the 3 (4) clans with who you'd been in an alliance for so long. You can't expect us not to feel hurt or angry over that. However we were rediculed for our anger and Bk let that happen aswell. Aside from that it left the 4 remaining clans in a ship that was sinking as 1 clan had just blown its way out of the ship. We could only go down with it or try to keep it floating, there was no way that we could leave the ship and get a good name from it just like Bk did. We'd've been the weak ones who'd give up as soon as it started getting hard. It would've been a different story if all the clans had decided to disband the alliance The thing i find wierd though, is that we were flamed so badly by some people, yet as i understand "The" clan was also considering leaving the alliance, but didnt because we did, and they didnt get flamed?I still think that we had every dam reason to feel betrayed and backstabbed. So stop bloody claiming that you never intended to hurt us, because a person with half a brain could've known that this had happened. And we had thoughts about leaving the alliance too, everyone sometimes doubt about these things. Yet we never did leave. And as I said the problem with bk wasn't that they left the alliance but how they left it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasiu0607 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Bk never intended to "betray" the allaince, only to do what was best for our clan, we wanted to keep relations with them strong but with all the flameing it became impossibleSure there were issues between the members of different alliance clans. The other alliance clans dealt with them just as Bk did and it sure enough did cost a lot of time. Time that has proven to be well worth it over the years. The alliance has always provided an extra hand to get up when in trouble. We've used it when we were in need of forums after ours had gotten hacked for the 100th time and so have other alliance clans. Sure the alliance had it's downside, it wasn't to good for the name of the clans in it. Certain clans basically claimed that we depended on eachother to get anything done. Sure it restricts us in potential pking and war targets. I can understand that Bk wanted to leave the alliance for the reasons stated, wether I agree with them or not. That's definately not why I and others were angry over bk leaving the alliance. The problem is the way in which you left the alliance. There was no communication, nothing. You guys were just out of the alliance all at once,your own members had to find out that you'd left on our clan forums. It happened with that much hurry. The clan community congratulated you on the good move of leaving the alliance. Bk gladly took that as compliment, which is the same as telling a good friend that he can * of, for nothing that he can do something about, and then accept that other people are applauding the move. That's nothing less then backstabbing the 3 (4) clans with who you'd been in an alliance for so long. You can't expect us not to feel hurt or angry over that. However we were rediculed for our anger and Bk let that happen aswell. Aside from that it left the 4 remaining clans in a ship that was sinking as 1 clan had just blown its way out of the ship. We could only go down with it or try to keep it floating, there was no way that we could leave the ship and get a good name from it just like Bk did. We'd've been the weak ones who'd give up as soon as it started getting hard. It would've been a different story if all the clans had decided to disband the alliance The thing i find wierd though, is that we were flamed so badly by some people, yet as i understand "The" clan was also considering leaving the alliance, but didnt because we did, and they didnt get flamed?I still think that we had every dam reason to feel betrayed and backstabbed. So stop bloody claiming that you never intended to hurt us, because a person with half a brain could've known that this had happened. And we had thoughts about leaving the alliance too, everyone sometimes doubt about these things. Yet we never did leave. And as I said the problem with bk wasn't that they left the alliance but how they left it. wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkemporor Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 cool beans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkef Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Bk left cuz they would babysit the useless clans in the allaince. They were a much stronger force alone anyways (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Bk left cuz they would babysit the useless clans in the allaince. They were a much stronger force alone anyways (Y) Thank you for an informative and useful post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWereWolf Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 PureCheese No group of people, will ever totally agree. At those times, somethings remain the same and some change. That's not backstabbing, that's called real life. Also I would say, currently even if BK had left totally on good terms, they still would not want to rejoin the alliance, speaking majority wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emp Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I wanna go back ze Alliance. lol and i used to always bring it up to council and they always said i was a betrayer.. HYPROCRITES :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_C_Stunner Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Bk left cuz they would babysit the useless clans in the allaince. They were a much stronger force alone anyways (Y) Thank you for an informative and useful post. yeah its very useful indeed HA IN UR FACE :D Stunner is in the house! Make some noise please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etnie123 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I lasted for over an hour and 15 minutes in the BK war, which is pretty good considering I was number 2 on Phunk's hitlist :lol: It looks like I'm back to annoy everyone on Tip it, considering I'm perm banned from every other RS related forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Reasoner Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 off topic: cos you pwn too much etnie and they can't take your verbal win. on topic: gkef. how could this be the case considering this is the weakest bk have ever been.. ever. so how exactly are they stronger now than when they were in the alliance when they are much weaker? i dont see your logic. Bk left the alliance thinking they would better themselves. and for a while they did. but then everything went to pot. like the gladz moto "power comes and goes but greatness is forever". the power came and went. but the greatness didnt stay. bk are improving and thats what is important and gladz are praying for a re-war in future :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince4die Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 off topic: cos you pwn too much etnie and they can't take your verbal win. on topic: gkef. how could this be the case considering this is the weakest bk have ever been.. ever. so how exactly are they stronger now than when they were in the alliance when they are much weaker? i dont see your logic. Bk left the alliance thinking they would better themselves. and for a while they did. but then everything went to pot. like the gladz moto "power comes and goes but greatness is forever". the power came and went. but the greatness didnt stay. bk are improving and thats what is important and gladz are praying for a re-war in future :P its showing them who really wants to be in BK during a hard time and with most of the newer members leaving BK because of the hard time, it leaves BK with its oldest members from back on rs before rs2, i see alot of the members from rs back then coming back into bk, which i myself am pretty happy to see its putting back BK to the way it was once before, if i could i'd be so happy to go back to BK because i loved them so much, i had a great 3-4 years in bk, and if i could i would never take that time back. and alot of the oldest members would never take there time back either. theres many different reasons why they left the alliance and i wasnt a member when they left so i cant really say. but im sure if people payed attention they would be noticing its turning back into the bk it was along time ago Proud Member Of The BlacKnights and BK SWAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foswald Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 and i thought that if i went on tip.it forums i'd see nothing i even had any clue about, and then i see at the top a post about the alliance.... lol :o! Someones escaped from the retirement village! Get the tranquilizer gun quick :lol: Are you going to shoot yourself? Well its good to see all the BK-Alliance love/tolerance. Very hard to pull off in those early days. There are official reasons and psychological reasons behind BK-Alliance split. I think my favorite explanation on the post so far was Killa's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical25 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 hiya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 How we left the alliance? there was nothing wrong with how we left the alliance. We didnt leave by bsing you. We didnt leave on bad terms. We didnt leave the alliance while it was weak we didnt leave while it was in need of help. What exactly is wrong with the way we left the alliance? Do you want us to apologise for leaving in a civilized manner and by making a post to inform you that we were leaving? Or next time should be bs you in the middle of a war and then tell you that we are leaving if that makes it better? and how exactly did we try and hurt you by leaving the alliance? we left because we didnt like being bsed constantly and then having to come and protect the alliance everytime they got into a fight? Unless the alliance was so dependent on us that you had to call us every single time you got into a fight, otherwise you couldnt cope without us. Then we didnt hurt you. And if we did, its not our fault you cant look after yourself. p.s hey myst BK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_C_Stunner Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 kav is ze ownage Stunner is in the house! Make some noise please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical25 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 ok kav u want to have a discussion theres 1 complete point that I will point out.... we left because we didnt like being bsed constantly and then having to come and protect the alliance everytime they got into a fight? you forgetting the many many many times bks got themselves in heck of messes in wild and the alliance came and unburied them. I know I do because I was always mad because bks where calling them to come and help..... reason I was mad was because I wanted us to die I wanted bks to be taught to fight there own battles without relying on the alliance.. but everytime there was bks calling in the alliance without permission I know gladz and bks where in fault for calling the alliance to help fight battles without the leaders permission and it came to be a heck of a problem... and to many people thats been in the alliance for awhile including me.. it wasent about how u put it by saying betrayed its being betrayed by a family.. thats why everybody was sooooo mad not because u left because everybody was upset that a close family was leaving.. it happens... bks need to get off there high horses.. and quit thinking they where the strongest in the alliance.... not 1 clan in the alliance was the strongest because it wasent the purpose of the alliance.. we where all equal in power if bks liked it or not... and I dont know 1 alliance clan that went up and down in power over the years.. including bks.. gladz the and bks and jagz know this for a fact... because dident bks go thru a heck of a rough time after gladz war and tons of people quit.. its clans nothing will change inless jagex brings in a system but it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Stuff. Hi Grandad! Bk left cuz they would babysit the useless clans in the allaince. They were a much stronger force alone anyways (Y) Thank you for an informative and useful post. yeah its very useful indeed HA IN UR FACE :D I see you're still the bubbling fountain of intelligence you always were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foswald Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Purecheese: If anyone in the BK had the intention of bsing The Alliance, they were in the minority. I'd place it at a little over half of the BK Leadership being emotionally shattered the night it actually happened. The Reasoner: You haven't the slightest clue about the BK at their weakest. They are far from that point, very far. On the whole rise to power and hitting a very low point thing, the Gladz have done it as well a few times. In the end, the stable clans will just average out and the BK seems to be doing just that. Myst: Blah Blah Blah, why are you hating on the BK again? Biox: Argh my spawn still roam RuneScape? Are you [cabbage]ting me? Good to hear from you :P That all said, its nice to hear The Alliance are still in the position of power they were in when I stopped paying attention. Keep on rockin in the free world kids. Much love to the Samnite/Thracian/Murmillo/Velite/etcs, Articles, Large Felines, and those Mighty Red Flying Lizards. Scababababa rabbababab to the oldies ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy316 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I love BK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foswald Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I love BK. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkemporor Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 fos and rb posted on the same thread....this world will now come to an end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_C_Stunner Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Stuff. Hi Grandad! Bk left cuz they would babysit the useless clans in the allaince. They were a much stronger force alone anyways (Y) Thank you for an informative and useful post. yeah its very useful indeed HA IN UR FACE :D I see you're still the bubbling fountain of intelligence you always were. dude insulting someone over their intelligence is just lame :roll: why are people so desperate that they need to make up old jokes Stunner is in the house! Make some noise please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 myst how about you actually read what i said? i defended the way we left the alliance. Not why we left the alliance. If you had read the thread you would know that i didnt want to leave the alliance either. BK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb0287 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 myst my love "reason I was mad was because I wanted us to die I wanted bks to be taught to fight there own battles without relying on the alliance.." and by leaving the alliance, wasn't this accomplished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkemporor Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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