cowmaster187 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I came up with a way to figure out the best routes based on the current VOS. Keep an eye on this guide for that and more ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 based on collected data and projections there are 7 VOS combinations that are over 400k/hr without avatar or black ibis. and as expected most of them involve a myelin VOS. VOS seems to affect the xp/hr a lot ( as expected), by up to about 30k/hr difference between a bad VOS and a good one. 30k is a full clans worth of xp. Investing indeed. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 had some time to think while i was mine crafting. so an hour is 60 minutes long (on earth)on average i am spending about 5 minutes thieving at each clanthe fewest clans i would be able to thieve from in that hour would be 12, that would mean that as long as you hit the 12 clans that will give you the most xp in that hour that is the best possible xp you can get. if running between clans reduces the amount of time spent thieving by 2.5 minutes overall that is only about a 10-15k difference in xp than tele crystals. Long run big, short run pretty small. if you can get the running between clans down to less than minute over all the difference is almost negligible. But these are all projections so far. it will take a long time for me to get accurate data to be sure. I think the best bet is to maximize the time spent at each clan, however jagex seems to have a hard cap on it the things i have tried do not seem to change the maximum duration of the thieving. there fore the only way to boost xp would be to use xp % boosting items such as the clan avatar and black ibis. It goes without saying things that do boost the duration are essential to success (trahern exoskeleton and ardy cape 4). ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Sorry for the lack of work done, holiday time makes everything harder to do ill get back to work on it in a few days. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 So based on some forum stuffs the loot may be changing in the near future. Keep an eye out for that ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I hope they don't remove my tea [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Then go tell them on the forums lol. don't give into the whiners. it is not like it is inventory filling tea, it is just something that makes it so you can't fully afk it. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am doing science and I am still alive!~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Personally I'd prefer it being switched with dragon leather maybe at a similar rate as d bones from hefin [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 it robs won't be, except maybe at best green leather. I am surprised that flax and bow string are still part of the tables. pick one and leave it at that ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Welp guide is pretty much done id say. Just have to add 1 more picture maybe (haven't decided if i will or not yet). When I decide on that Ill remove the WIP tag. Ill also update it when the loot gets timboed as it inevitably will. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sewage Kat Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If you use a weapon without ammo you won't be able to attack the guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 this is true, good old trick. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 So ill be updating the loot drops after this most recent rebalance some new things so far. this list will probably expand over time. (and when i have time) Hefin - didnt notice anything new more bones i guessmeylir - noted crushed nestscrwys - yews and flax are now noted. cadarn - nothing newtreahern - nothing newIowerth - got caught too quick to checkIthell - soda ash noted, noted teak plank, soft clay(new tea)amlodd - portent of resotoration VIII & IX, porter 4 (many), more charms still not many ~~~legoman187~~~ 1 Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Crushed nests???? Rip prices. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 it does seem that cash drops have been increased a small amount (this is likely just rng as the sample size was very very small.) the drops do not seem to have changed terribly. more inventory filler from meylir in the form of the dg token bags. and less from crwys due to noted flax and yews. if i end up having more time to test ill look into it more. if you guys get any loot not already listed please let me know and ill add it. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hey Lego, I had one idea for something you might add to the guide. Have you considered gp/hr rates for the various clans and whatnot, to get a general idea of how much gp you are earning with you xp? Or if it's already in the guide, my apologies if I missed it. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 i did not really pay attention to gp/xp because it was rather arbitrary, it depends on what you keep & such and considering how often they have changed the loot very variable. Currently I am not going to do that, but in the future i may. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ah okay, thanks :). "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgf Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I've been experimenting with teleport crystal strategies to minimize banking and make it so you never need to drop any items (max afk) while only banking at the beginning and ending of clan thieving cycles. This is all assuming all banking is done by using a preset to withdraw an empty invent + 1 teleport crystal(3). 5 clan strategy: (will leave you with a bunch of teleport(1)'s) Start at max guild bank or something, bank.HefinCrywsTeleport to Meilyr and bank, then bank again when done with MeilyrAmloddTrah, bank at end repeat. Doing this, you minimize banking time while never having your inventory get full. However, I think using a 6 clan strategy is better for crystal teleporting, since then you don't have a bunch of (1) charges at the end. In this case something that works well is: HefinCadarnMeilyr, Bank, then bank again after finishAmloddTrahearn, Bank at start and manually withdraw (1)chargeCryws, bank at end. repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Are you keeping all loot? ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Are you keeping all loot? ~~~legoman187~~~ I've been keeping all loot and getting similiar rates to what you were recieving. [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgf Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I've been working on profit logging. WIP below https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vZMiOaw1lc2x50mz6GyMxN98KKRHSuBrzpLDg_zWlGU/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Very intresting. Once it is complete do you mind if i add it to the guide, with proper credit of course? One thing i did notice is that coins seems to be rather consistent throughout the clans. ~~~Legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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