cowmaster187 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 [anchor]Top[/anchor] you are likely here because you want to maximize your Thieving experience gains at the glorious eleven city of Priffdinas. disclaimer - this is not a guide for anything other than elven thieving at priffdinas. Table of Contents: 1. [anchorlink=HTGT]How to get there[/anchorlink]2.a [anchorlink=TE]The Essentials[/anchorlink]2.b [anchorlink=OTtH]Other things that help[/anchorlink]3. [anchorlink=Loot]Loot[/anchorlink]4.a [anchorlink=Rates]Rates[/anchorlink]4.b Optimization5. [anchorlink=WYNTK]How Elven Thieving Works[/anchorlink]6. [anchorlink=TT]Tips and Tricks[/anchorlink] [anchor]HTGT[/anchor]How to get there: After completing plagues end you gain access to the City of Priffdinas. In this city there are 8 clans arrayed around a central hub. Each of the clans requires a particular thieving level to loot from 91 to 98. This guide is ideally for 98+ and those going for 200m however, you can use it as low as 89 I believe (at severely reduced rates of course). credit-jagex ltd. names and logos added by Legoman187 (if you end up using this else where please attribute it correctly) [anchor]TE[/anchor]The essentials: Here is a list of things that help immensely, without them your rates will be lackluster. Treahern Exoskeleton - obtained from plagues end Ardougne cape 4 - obtained from the ardougne task set-OR-Compeltionist cape - it counts as an ardougne cape something like this would do fine. In terms of inventory it really depends on several factors:-do you plan on banking or dropping the loot you don't want-is the loot you want noted-if it doesn't stack is there a close bank box Normally I start off with a clear inventory as I drop most of the loot that I get. If you plan to keep anything, try to choose your route such that there is a bank along the way. It is helpful to note there are bank chests at the treahern and it hell heralds (where the crystal teleport takes you); the Hefin bank chest is also very close to the herald. If you plan to use a familiar scrolls are really all you need. [anchor]OTtH[/anchor]Other things that help:Abyssal lurker & scrolls (if below 98 thieving)Black ibis (from pyramid plunder - not required but does boost rates additionally if you own it you will get the bonus if wearing the exoskeleton)A clan avatar (either held by you or on same world)crystal teleport seeds - for quick clan tele - can save you lots of running time which means higher xp/hr (might be significantly higher, still need to try it myself) Things that may help but have to be tested:Five finger discount auracheeky monkey??? [anchorlink=Top]back to top of thread[/anchorlink] [anchor]loot[/anchor][anchor]Loot[/anchor]Possible Loot:Current loot possibilities: Meilyr - 98 thieving harmony moss seedsherblore secondaries-snape grass-vials of water (1) noted-blue dragon scale_ground-Crushed nests (1) notedZammorak favor (1) notedDg tokens 10 & 100 Crwys - 97 thieving yew logs (1) notedmagic logsFlax (1) notedsupercompost (noted)tree saplings (maple and pineapple confirmed) Hefin - 96 thieving Dragon BonesAgility potion (1) notedsuper energy potion (1) notedaccursed ashes (1) notedCourse multipliers summer piecleansing crystals (1) Trahaern - 95 thieving coal ore (noted)gold ore (noted)adamant ore (noted)steel bars (noted)corrupted oreDwarven stout (m) Amlodd - 94 thieving Radiant, luminous, and incandescent energygold, green, crimson, and blue charmsEmpty pouchesManifest shadow coreportents of resotration VIII and IXSigns of the porter IV Cadarn - 93 thieving super magic (1) (noted)super ranged (1) (noted)unpowered orb (noted)bow string (noted)shark Ithell - 92 thieving planks (teak and oak) (1) notedsoda ash (1) notedharmonic dustCrystal Armor seed Iowerth - 91 thieving super attack (1) (noted)super defense (1) (noted)super strength (1) (noted)Sharks (un-noted bleh)adamant ore (noted) Clan Independent Loot - 91 - 98 thieving Brawlershard and elite cluestrisk fragmentscashmusician cosmetic clothesclan symbolsCrystal Acorns - very rareCrystal motherlode shards [1] likely to be all clans, just very rare [anchorlink=loot]back to top of loot[/anchorlink][anchorlink=Top]back to top of thread[/anchorlink] [anchor]rates[/anchor][anchor]Rates[/anchor]Rates: Current rates are:You can achieve between 370k and 408k xp / hr depending on the Voice of Seren. (more with xp boosting things such as black ibis and clan avatars0 Optimal routes to take, and when to bank (the real meat and potatoes of the guide): from here on VOS = Voice of SerenVOS boosts thiev xp by about 20% compared to non VOS. and a handy table: The rates on the right are 1 sessions(3 strikes) worth of xp, and will be made more accurate over time, as more data is gathered. *Treahern rate not confirmed, but expected rate. *also Crwys non VOS does not look right and needs some more datas, I would expect closer to 32k Option 1: Use Crystal Teleport seeds to minimize running between the clans *text wall inbound* This provides a significant boost to xp as you do not waste nearly as much time running around as you do thieving and getting xp. Superior rates to other options. Downside you need many teleport crystals for extended durations. How it works:You require several crystal teleport seeds (4)s (3s work as well, but you need more of them)You run to your starting clan, after getting three strikes you teleport to the next clan in your order, with this it can be the next highest level clan and location doesn't matter at all. You can also take the path of most xp rather than wasting time at a lower level clan. This may also result in you doing more clans per hour, which is also a boon for xp. The teleport crystal takes you to the clan herald for that clan (the red dot on the map). From there it is easy to get to the best place to thieve from the workers for each clan. Option 2: Run between the clans you want to thieve from Path I normally take, simply because it is convenient. I do hefin last in the rotation because it puts me closer to the beginning of the new one, although it is totally meaningless, as you will have to run all the way any way at some point. It greatly depends on the voices where you want to start in this rotation. meilyr -> crwys -> cadarn -> treahern -> hefin -> meilyr. ROUTE MAP GOES HERE----placeholder currently---In the works at the moment arrows are hard. To maximize xp there are some important things to remember. -Crwys and Meilyr have the highest xp, so if it is in VOS go to it even if there is less than 5 minutes left on VOS. -It is useful to watch your chat for the red message stating you have been caught so you can click on another. If it is your first catch you may want to get ready to move again as the first and second can some times be back to back. -Teleport crystals don't seem to boost xp/hr very much, but they are much more convenient than running to your next target. They may also help with xp a small amount if you are not fast when switching clans. -Iowerth and Ithell are only worth thieving from if under the effects of VOS, and even then the xp gained from them is meager. [anchorlink=loot]back to top of rates[/anchorlink][anchorlink=Top]back to top of thread[/anchorlink] [anchor]WYNTK[/anchor]What you need to know (how it is different from normal thieving): If you are planning to rob the poor dwarves of keldagrim of their horde you may want to think again. They require constant clicking which can get very painful (believe me I know). Elves are a whole other ball of wax, they are similar to choking ivy for wood cutting or seen stones for mining. All you have to do is click once and you will thieve until either they catch you or you run out of inventory space (more on this later). It is very relaxed, but it does require more moving around than traders, it is up to you. -You can achieve only about 200 thieves at each clan before you will rack up 3 strikes, at which point you will need to move to another clan. -The 200 thieves takes about 5 minutes at level 99 with treahern exoskeleton and Ardougne cape/COmpeltionist cape. - After you third strike you will have to wait 20 minutes before you can thieve from that clan again. -If you get caught 2 times and then move to another clan the 20 minute count down will not reset, It will only reset after you get caught for the third time. Those tricksy elves keep track for some reason. -If you get 3 strikes at a clan and then log out the timer will keep running and in 20 minutes game time or otherwise you will be able to thieve again. What this means is you don't have to stay on for them to forget about you. [anchor]TT[/anchor]Tips and Tricks -If you are having inventory space issue (which should only happen near the end of a run) there are a few things you can do. For edible things like the dwarven stouts, sharks and summer pies you can put them on your action bar and eat them as you thieve. For things that are not edible if you drag them out of your inventory they will be dropped on the ground. Both of these actions will not interrupt thieving from the elves. -If what you are dropping has a destroy option and you try to drag it or destroy it and confirm the destruction it will stop the thieving animation and you will stop gaining xp until you click on an elven worker. -Be careful of clicking on Iowerth and Cadarn soldiers. If you do attack them run away until you sheath your weapon, they will forget about you and you can continue to thieve. -Elf teleport crystals speed up your movement around the city, they are very useful and pretty easy to get. - If you are worried about hitting the warriors use a range weapon that requires ammo, but don't bring any. this will prevent you from attacking. Notes on banking:- pick your routes carefully, if you want to keep particular loot and know that your inventory will fill up at the next clan drop what you have off at the bank, convenient ones are in Treahern, Hefin and Ithell* - Some loot is more valuable than others, in terms of both gp and inventory space. If it stacks it might be worth keeping simply because it will add up and doesn't take up much space. maybe it doesn't stack but is still valuable, that is when you want to pick your banks well. - Bank when you are near a chest, you never know when your inventory will fill up with clan symbols and other epic loot. *Only during VOS [anchorlink=Top]back to top[/anchorlink] TO THE MODS: if this needs to be moved for now let me know. Special thanks:the guides, pages and staff on tip.it&-tranquilnub-Sewage kat - pro tip from the old days. Last of all Good Luck! in your thieving adventure, whether you are hunting for clue scrolls and other loot or just there for xp. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 ill reserve this one as well for now, just in case things get out of hand if you are interested in just the route to take to get the best loot keep an eye here for that as well. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 looking good, cant wait to see it finished! 1 [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Dropping stuff off the action bar didn't break the thieving for me, unless it was changed quite recently? In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 yeah it should work, but instead of dropping the dwarven stout the auto use is drink which is annoying. if you do the right click drop from action bar it won't break it. I meant dropping items from your inventory manually will break it. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 If you drag the items out of your inventory it doesn't interrupt 1 [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Interesting ok, right click dropping does break it, i shall clarify. EDIT: based on the map and what we know about the clans there should be an optimal route consisting of most of the new batch basically, we shall see though, ill do the research i need after i get comp back (or while i am potion recipe hunting) ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 There are rumors from the internetiverse that the loot may have gotten a rebalance. we shall see how it is, xp should be pretty decent still even if it is still 300k/hr ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I keep updating my post in the update thread , in general discussion. Might want to check that for pickpocketing related items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 yeah i saw it, thanks ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Sorry guys, work will be put only hold for a short while, want to get the recipes from dg for the comp req first, ill get bored and get to work eventually. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Scratch that last post, did an hours worth and had some very interesting results i think average time at a clan was about 5 minutes (same as before). the loot from cadarn and crwys has changed some whatcadarn doesn't drop nearly as many sharkswhile crwys drops flax, yews and magic logs, and from what i could tell no seeds amlodd and heft have mediocre loot. myeilyr are pretty bad as well. xp gained in that hour was about 420k - with 70k bxp so 350k an hour id wager is pretty close. that is without an ava boost or black ibis so could get pretty close to 400k an hour (better than traders) my expectation is that the best route is hefin -> meilyr -> crwys -> cadarn -> treahern -> hefin etc. mainly because treahern is 95 while ambled is 94 so you are likely to get better xp if you ignore ambled all together, it also is easier running path (straight up the middle as opposed to kind of wonky jog through the middle. I shall test to find out i guess. more work to be done tomorrow THINGS DONE TOT HE GUIDE:updated the loot brieflyupdated xp chartupdated level order of clans ( i was wrong so sue me, xp was right though) ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 plan is to get more work done this weekend we shall see ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 xp gained in that hour was about 420k - with 70k bxp so 350k an hour id wager is pretty close. that is without an ava boost or black ibis so could get pretty close to 400k an hour (better than traders) Re: Bold Does the Exo not act as Black Ibis assuming you've got it already? [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 nah it acts as black ibis if you have black ibis, i don't have black ibis so i am not sure how much it will end up boosting xp ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 By 5% 1 [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 after tomorrows update and fun with clues ill probe do some thieving to figure out some rates ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Ok so I am looking for your guy's help. if you are thieving the elves of priff and want to help please fill this form out. it will be very helpful to me. Gear you are using:-do you have black ibis: Y/N-ardy cape/comp cape: Y/N-Exoskeleton: Y/N-Five finger discount: Y/N-Avatar bonus: 0%/3%/6% Thiev level: Clan:Was VOS active the whole time you were there?: Y/Nxp you received:loot not listed?: Clan:Was VOS active the whole time you were there?: Y/Nxp you received:loot not listed?: Clan:Was VOS active the whole time you were there?: Y/Nxp you received:loot not listed?: Route you took:how long you thieved for: ~~~legoman187~~~ 1 Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 So doing some thieving work right now, should post it after this run is done ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 So some interesting results: Gained in 1 hour, all clans thieved (VOS meylir and Iowerth)360k xp ~500k cashMeylir voice Average of about 40k xp while in voiceHefin average of about 30kCrwys average of about 28k cadarn average 26k Averages will be lower here, except treahern which should be bit higher than what i got.1 cycle of treahern was 29k, i expect close to 30k averageIowerth in voice was also about 29kit hell was 26kamlodd was 25k The main thing still holding rates back is travel time, if you feel like using tele crystals that may speed things up a bunch, although I am not willing to try at this time. Interesting indeed. Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Crystals are cheap enough to recharge in bulk I think [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 if so then it should cut out a ton of time spent running about rates could go up significantly. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'll begin using my seeds to teleport and track rates. If I would stop getting elite clues [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 lel. interesting stuff in my excel sheet atm. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleThingz Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Very nice guide so far, I like it. Good details! More old-school than you know... Proud Member of The Slayer's Guild since April 7th 2009.Skill Total Goal Complete: 2500 - November 12th 2014.Goal Total Experience: 338,895,206 - Goal complete November 2nd 2014.Next Goal Experience: 1,000,000,000 -Personal Kalphite Queen GuideFollow My PoP Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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