Help with my video card

[knives669]

So, with Oblivion soon to be just one day away... I want to ask you guys here in the tech forum a question about my system compared to the reccommended system requirements to play the game.

 

 

 

These are the reccomended requirements for the game.

 

Recommended:

 

 

 

* 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor

 

* 1 GB System RAM

 

* ATI X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card

 

 

 

Minimum System Requirements:

 

 

 

* Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows XP 64-bit

 

* 512MB System RAM

 

* 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor

 

* 128MB Direct3D compatible video card

 

* and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;

 

* 8x DVD-ROM drive

 

* 4.6 GB free hard disk space

 

* DirectX 9.0c (included)

 

* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card

 

* Keyboard, Mouse

 

 

 

The only thing that I'm really worried about is my video card. I currently have an Intel 82865G Graphics controller. I wish to know whether or not I can play Oblivion with this. I'd like to know as soon as possible so that I can head out and buy a better one.

 

 

 

Thanks!

[_k0m0d0_]

Your card is 64Mb, its not recomended to play with this one because its going to lag.. because they recomend 128Mb.

 

 

 

My computer has the same card and I Play AeO2, Diablo LOD, Silkroad, Need For Speed Underground 2, but sometimes lagging...

 

 

 

In my opinion you should get a new card, because I'm prety sure its going to lag in minimum! :(

 

 

 

Post your computer specs to have sure that the only thing that worries you is your Video Card.

 

 

 

I can't help more for now, I can search for you a nice video card :D

 

The last 2 are 512Mb, I dont think you will need that much, and they're more expensive too, the last one is the best bennefit/cost for 512Mb, it costs as a 256Mb...

 

 

 

->eVGA e-GeForce 6800 XT Video Card

 

(256MB, PCI Express x16, DVI)

 

Video Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT

 

Core Clock Speed: 325 MHz

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 MHz

 

Installed Video Memory: 256 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR-SDRAM (DDRRAM)

 

Effective Memory Clock Speed: 600 MHz

 

 

 

->Asus Extreme AX1600PRO/TD Radeon X1600 Pro Video Card

 

(256MB, PCI Express x16, DVI)

 

Video Chipset: ATI RADEON X1600 Pro

 

Core Clock Speed: 500 MHz

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 MHz

 

Installed Video Memory: 256 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR2

 

Effective Memory Clock Speed: 780 MHz

 

 

 

->ATI Radeon X1300 Video Card

 

(256MB, PCI Express x16)

 

Video Chipset: ATI RADEON X1300

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 Hz

 

Installed Video Memory: 256 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR2

 

 

 

->Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro Video Card

 

(512MB, PCI Express x16, DVI)

 

ideo Chipset: ATI RADEON X1600 Pro

 

Core Clock Speed: 500 MHz

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 MHz

 

Installed Video Memory: 512 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR2

 

 

 

-> eVGA 256-P2-N391-AX Geforce 6800GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card

 

Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA

 

GPU: Geforce 6800GS

 

Core clock: 490MHz

 

Memory Clock: 1100MHz

 

Memory Size: 256MB

 

Memory Interface: 256-bit

 

Memory Type: GDDR3

 

Effective Memory Clock Speed: 780 MHz

 

 

 

But as I said, post the rest of your computer to see if you have something more to worry *hopes not*

 

 

 

~komodo

[knives669]

Well, I run Windows XP, have 512 MB of RAM, 3 ghz Pentium 4 processor, Direct X version 9.0c, and plenty of hard disk space. :D

[knives669]

->Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro Video Card

 

(512MB, PCI Express x16, DVI)

 

ideo Chipset: ATI RADEON X1600 Pro

 

Core Clock Speed: 500 MHz

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 MHz

 

Installed Video Memory: 512 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR2

 

 

 

^_^ This was actually the one I was planning on buying tonight. I'll head out and get it tomorrow. I don't really know what to do after buying it though... I have no idea how to install it... O.o

[_k0m0d0_]

Well, I run Windows XP, have 512 MB of RAM, 3 ghz Pentium 4 processor, Direct X version 9.0c, and plenty of hard disk space. :D

 

Well its really nicce, better then mine :D

 

The only thing you got to worry is your Video Card... I've edited my other post with some Video Cards, I expect some expert see it so you will get a better feedback :D

 

 

 

~komodo

[Icehart]

Threadstarter please post more information regarding your motherboard. I need to know whether your motherboard is on AGP or PCI-E platform before suggesting any graphic card to you.

[knives669]

How would I find info about my motherboard? :?

[_k0m0d0_]

->Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro Video Card

 

(512MB, PCI Express x16, DVI)

 

ideo Chipset: ATI RADEON X1600 Pro

 

Core Clock Speed: 500 MHz

 

RAMDAC Speed: 400 MHz

 

Installed Video Memory: 512 MB

 

Memory Technology: DDR2

 

 

 

^_^ This was actually the one I was planning on buying tonight. I'll head out and get it tomorrow. I don't really know what to do after buying it though... I have no idea how to install it... O.o

 

^_^ I'm glad I posted something usefull, haha :D

 

How much you buying it?

 

You find it here for USD 129,00

 

US Dollars Sapphire Video Card

 

 

 

Or here for AUSD 215,00

 

Australian Dollars Sapphire Video Card

 

 

 

:D

 

 

 

Threadstarter please post more information regarding your motherboard. I need to know whether your motherboard is on AGP or PCI-E platform before suggesting any graphic card to you.

 

I forgot the motherboard info... lol

 

Easy... how old is your computer?

 

~komodo

[Icehart]

How would I find info about my motherboard? :?

 

 

 

You can download cpuz from http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

[knives669]

 

 

 

This is what you need, right? :?

[_k0m0d0_]

You have a DellÃÆââââ¬Ã¾Ãââ DimensionÃÆââââ¬Ã¾Ãââ 3000 right?(or something near it :? ), if I am, your Video card supports PCI, not PCI-E.

 

 

 

If I'm not, so I'll have to search better :D, but I'm almost sure!

 

Heres a pic of your motherboard:

 

 

 

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong about PCI, PCI-E.

 

 

 

~komodo

[knives669]

Wow. Yeah... Dimension 3000. ^_^ Thanks, komodo. ^_^ Tomorrow, I'm going to head out and buy a better video card. I'll keep these things in mind when searching. I'm going to have to know how to install it though. Think you can help me out with that? Really, man. Thanks alot. You've been a big help.

 

 

 

I'm heading to bed, you guys. I'll check this topic when I awake. ^_^ Night komodo!

[_k0m0d0_]

Wow. Yeah... Dimension 3000. ^_^ Thanks, komodo. ^_^ Tomorrow, I'm going to head out and buy a better video card. I'll keep these things in mind when searching. I'm going to have to know how to install it though. Think you can help me out with that? Really, man. Thanks alot. You've been a big help.

 

 

 

I'm heading to bed, you guys. I'll check this topic when I awake. ^_^ Night komodo!

 

Tee Hee! I can see above the seas! :D

 

Good Luck tomorrow, I'm glad I helped in someway.

 

 

 

Sure I'll help you! With all you need :P

 

Night Kayla! ^_^

[Stuart_G]

Actually, looking at that picture, you wont be upgrading anything. The motherboard doesnt have an AGP or PCI-e slot and theres no way in hell you would be able to use a regular PCI card to run something like oblivion.

 

 

 

The only way i could see you getting a new video card is if you go out and buy a whole new motherboard that has AGP or PCI-e slots on it. And if you get a PCI-e motherboard, youve got to make sure your power supply has the right connectors and it has enough power, but thats a whole different story.

 

 

 

So yeah, based on that picture, you cant really upgrade to a video card unless you get a whole new motherboard that has an AGP or PCI-e slot and then youve got to buy the actual video card, so it could possibly end up costing you a bit of money and generally being a pain in the arse.

[Icehart]

That means all cards suggested by _k0m0d0_ earlier is unuseable as all require 16x of PCI-E. By looking at your motherboard, sorry to say that it doesnt seems to have any PCI-E slot or AGP slot. (Note that PCI-E and PCI slot are totally two different thing).

 

 

 

Since this is an OEM computer, I suggest you to call the technical support and insist them of an upgrade to your computer instead of going to your own.

[_k0m0d0_]

Actually, looking at that picture, you wont be upgrading anything. The motherboard doesnt have an AGP or PCI-e slot and theres no way in hell you would be able to use a regular PCI card to run something like oblivion.

 

 

 

The only way i could see you getting a new video card is if you go out and buy a whole new motherboard that has AGP or PCI-e slots on it. And if you get a PCI-e motherboard, youve got to make sure your power supply has the right connectors and it has enough power, but thats a whole different story.

 

 

 

So yeah, based on that picture, you cant really upgrade to a video card unless you get a whole new motherboard that has an AGP or PCI-e slot and then youve got to buy the actual video card, so it could possibly end up costing you a bit of money and generally being a pain in the arse.

 

I dont know if she will buy a new Motherboard just to play Oblivion...

 

AGP

 

Why cant she play in a PCI card?

 

 

 

Buying a new motherboard causes you to buy all those things else... such a "pocket pain"...ouch! :?

 

But if theres no option left... :(

 

 

 

That means all cards suggested by _k0m0d0_ earlier is unuseable as all require 16x of PCI-E. By looking at your motherboard, sorry to say that it doesnt seems to have any PCI-E slot or AGP slot. (Note that PCI-E and PCI slot are totally two different thing).

 

 

 

Since this is an OEM computer, I suggest you to call the technical support and insist them of an upgrade to your computer instead of going to your own.

 

I know that PCI and PCI-e are two different things, I posted the Video cards befor knowing the motherboard...

 

 

 

I have a Dell 4500S... OLLLD! Day after day when I try to upgrade it I fail to find somthing, the was made to be untouched... now I gotta change my whole computer, :lol:

 

But I doubt any Dell Technical Support Assitance will make an upgrade... :? Yeah, offcoure I might be wrong...

 

 

 

Now theres only 5 options left:

 

1- Change your motherboard and your video card

 

2- Buy a PCI video card

 

3- Buy another card and ask for techincal Dell Assistance

 

4- Call Dell and ask if its possible to send someone to upgrade your video.

 

5- Try to play in your actual video card (This might not be the best thing to do...)

[Stuart_G]

PCI video cards are old and if you bought one, you wouldnt be able to run oblivion on it, so you would have just wasted your money.

 

 

 

As for

AGP

 

Thats wrong. Its more like PCI-e>AGP>PCI

 

 

 

PCI is the oldest interface out of the three so i think it would be very hard, if not impossible, to find a PCI card that would be able to run something like Oblivion.

 

 

 

The only possibly way i could see you playing Oblivion is to upgrade your motherboard to a motherboard with an AGP or PCI-e slot and then buying an AGP or PCI-e card that can comfortably run Oblivion.

[____]

Personally, i've found it to be more like PCI-E ~ AGP > PCI.

 

So long as you aren't using PCI, there shouldn't be much of a problem.

 

 

 

PCI-E seems to be leading the charge at the top-end. But for everything else, AGP and PCI-E are fairly even :)

[jammy316]

Actually, looking at that picture, you wont be upgrading anything. The motherboard doesnt have an AGP or PCI-e slot and theres no way in hell you would be able to use a regular PCI card to run something like oblivion.

 

 

 

The only way i could see you getting a new video card is if you go out and buy a whole new motherboard that has AGP or PCI-e slots on it. And if you get a PCI-e motherboard, youve got to make sure your power supply has the right connectors and it has enough power, but thats a whole different story.

 

 

 

So yeah, based on that picture, you cant really upgrade to a video card unless you get a whole new motherboard that has an AGP or PCI-e slot and then youve got to buy the actual video card, so it could possibly end up costing you a bit of money and generally being a pain in the arse.

 

I dont know if she will buy a new Motherboard just to play Oblivion...

 

AGP

 

Why cant she play in a PCI card?

 

 

 

Buying a new motherboard causes you to buy all those things else... such a "pocket pain"...ouch! :?

 

But if theres no option left... :(

 

 

 

That means all cards suggested by _k0m0d0_ earlier is unuseable as all require 16x of PCI-E. By looking at your motherboard, sorry to say that it doesnt seems to have any PCI-E slot or AGP slot. (Note that PCI-E and PCI slot are totally two different thing).

 

 

 

Since this is an OEM computer, I suggest you to call the technical support and insist them of an upgrade to your computer instead of going to your own.

 

I know that PCI and PCI-e are two different things, I posted the Video cards befor knowing the motherboard...

 

 

 

I have a Dell 4500S... OLLLD! Day after day when I try to upgrade it I fail to find somthing, the was made to be untouched... now I gotta change my whole computer, :lol:

 

But I doubt any Dell Technical Support Assitance will make an upgrade... :? Yeah, offcoure I might be wrong...

 

 

 

Now theres only 5 options left:

 

1- Change your motherboard and your video card

 

2- Buy a PCI video card

 

3- Buy another card and ask for techincal Dell Assistance

 

4- Call Dell and ask if its possible to send someone to upgrade your video.

 

5- Try to play in your actual video card (This might not be the best thing to do...)

 

 

 

Dude learn what your taking about before confusing the person.

 

 

 

DONT buy a PCI Video card for a game such as Oblivion.. if you want PCI I suggest you started playing games likes CS 1.6. PCI is old now and not very good. Trust me, I have a PC in my house with a 5200FX PCI 128MB card.

 

 

 

About buying a new mobo? She'll need to know the pin of her current processer and if she can ever use it on a new mobo. Same with RAM.

 

 

 

Best thing is to phone dell because in all seriousness you may have to buy a new rig to play the game. Not a Dell PC either :).

[Icehart]

I would personally suggest a new motherboard if you want to play such games. One of them would be :

 

 

 

Gigabyte socket 478 motherboard.

 

Asus P4 Deluxe motherboard (Any deluxe motherboard)

 

DFI Lanparty motherboard.

 

 

 

Also before buying motherboard, make sure the motherboard comes with Intel chipset.

 

Intel chipset are better than VIA chipset while VIA chipset are better than SIS chipset.

 

 

 

Intel > VIA > SIS

 

 

 

Anyway, this involves money to buy new motherboard and new graphic card.

[apinagez]

Personally, i've found it to be more like PCI-E ~ AGP > PCI.

 

So long as you aren't using PCI, there shouldn't be much of a problem.

 

 

 

PCI-E seems to be leading the charge at the top-end. But for everything else, AGP and PCI-E are fairly even :)

 

 

 

I second that, rick :)

 

 

 

I can't believe Dell didin't add a AGP slot to Kayla's comp...they seriously want people to get new computers instead of upgrading :evil:

 

 

 

Would it be possible to change the motherboard of a Dimension 3000?

 

I don't any board would fit in that >,<

[knives669]

:cry: Wow... After reading everything, I am quite upset. I'm going to do some research and compare the prices of a new motherboard and video card vs. having Dell upgrade my computer. *sigh*

 

 

 

EDIT: I found a PCI card which seems to be good enough to run Oblivion, imo (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But, here it is. You guys take a look at it and tell me what you think.

 

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=4765188

[indy500fan]

i dont know if anyone is keeping up in the oblivion topic in OT, but i have been spending the past hour trying to fix the same problem as knives669. we both have decent enough computers once we upgrade the video card, but we both only have pci slots on the mother board. and we both really, really want to play oblivion :P . i got on here to make a topic about this, but since our situations are more or less identical, all just add a little bit here. im looking for a micro atx motherboard, since my insignia d300a only has room for that.

[knives669]

Lol. I posted on the Oblivion topic about this. Right now, my plan is just to buy a good PCI video card. I found a pretty good one online that I'm sure (with my limited knowledge about video cards) will play Oblivion.

[_k0m0d0_]

:cry: Wow... After reading everything, I am quite upset. I'm going to do some research and compare the prices of a new motherboard and video card vs. having Dell upgrade my computer. *sigh*

 

 

 

EDIT: I found a PCI card which seems to be good enough to run Oblivion, imo (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But, here it is. You guys take a look at it and tell me what you think.

 

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=4765188

 

One thing... I have a Dell, and it sucks, I upgraded my HD from 30Gb to 80Gb, I took long to discover it was IDE.... ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâìÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâì

 

Dell werent made to be upgraded... :(

 

 

 

I do think the only problem with this Video card is:

 

Full support for DirectX 8.1 programmable pixel and vertex shaders in hardware

 

You need DirectX 9.0 to play oblivion, so I'm not sure if tis card supports it...

 

 

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong :D

 

 

 

~komodo