Family Banned (Long Read, Sad Story, Help Jagex) -UPDATED

[Tosi]

To say the least, the last couple of weeks has been hell.

 

 

 

In late 2003, I started my first Runescape character, 'TosiLX' I continued to play intensely right up to the release of RS2 due to the fact that I didn't not want to adjust to the new combat system, I had been hacked, and my parents were in the middle of a sticky divorce.

 

 

 

About five weeks ago, my brother Jason (now age 12) decided he wanted to start playing Runescape. He was already familiar with the Runescape combat system and how the game worked because he often watched his friends play and such. He decided he wanted to make a one defence pure so he did and named it "B_L_E_E_D_S".

 

 

 

Now someone of you might be familiar with the name because you might have seen his PK pics posted on various forums.

 

 

 

Anyway after seeing him playing I had pretty much had forgotten about Runescape and I had some time (divorce had settled) I decided to start playing again and faimiliarize myself with RS2 environment.

 

 

 

He trained his pure ALL the time (lucky him, no homework or job :x) and got the stats to decent level and when I had my days off from work I would go do what I had been doing best since RS1, staking (I'm TosiLX by the way). So between mining rune and staking and Jason pking and staking together we pooled enough cash to buy 100,000 nats to get him up to 94 mage. I bought all the natures and gave them to Jason (B_L_E_E_D_S) so he could alch them because I could think of better things to do then hi-alch 100k bows :x.

 

 

 

Anyway he got to doing that and I continued staking, hanging out with old friends, and did a few F2P PK trips and everything was peachy.

 

 

 

Jason comes to me (in tears) saying he got banned:

 

 

 

March 14, 2006

 

Hi B L E E D S,

 

 

 

We regret to inform you that this account has been identified as breaking our rules on macro usage.

 

 

 

Please refer to the Rules of conduct -

 

 

 

Rule 7: You must not attempt to use other programs (e.g. bots, macros or autominers) in conjunction with our games to give yourself an unfair advantage at the game. You also may not circumvent any of our mechanisms designed to log out inactive users automatically.

 

 

 

Please see the Macro FAQ in the FAQ section of the RuneScape website for more details on our macro policy.

 

 

 

As a result of this recent offence, and in light of your previous record, your account has been permanently banned.

 

 

 

If you feel you have been banned in error, you may appeal once. For the appeal to be successful you will need to explain why the ban should be lifted, and will need to convince us there wont be any further problems with this account.

 

 

 

To make an appeal please do so using the Ban Appeal section of the Customer Support area of the RuneScape website.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

RuneScape Customer Support

 

 

 

I was extremely confused at this point and I was 98% sure Jason was not macroing due to the fact that he was glued to the PC 24/7 training, he probably couldn't figure out a macro if he had one, and I thought macroing had ended with the creation of random events.

 

 

 

So I helped him right a proper appeal and this is what came of it.

 

 

 

March 14, 2006 (Same day as the appeal was sent)

 

Dear B L E E D S,

 

 

 

Thank you for your appeal,

 

 

 

You have been caught breaking one of our Rules of RuneScape and as a result you have received a Permanent Ban.

 

The Rule you were caught breaking was:

 

 

 

Rule 7: You must not attempt to use other programs (e.g. bots, macros or autominers) in conjunction with our games

 

to give yourself an unfair advantage at the game. You also may not circumvent any of our mechanisms designed to log out inactive users automatically

 

 

 

For more information please see the Macro FAQ in the FAQ section of the RuneScape website.

 

 

 

However as this appears to be your first offence we will lift this permanent ban but your account will still have black marks placed on it and you will still receive a 7 day ban. Further to this we will be monitoring your account very closely and if we receive any further Abuse Reports against you, your account will be banned permanently with no further chances given.

 

 

 

I suggest you take this time to make yourself familiar with our Rules of Conduct which can be found in the 'Information and Advice' section (left) on the main page of our website (http://www.RuneScape.com) by selecting the link named 'Read our rules'. This will make you more aware and help you avoid being banned from the game in future.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

RuneScape Customer Support

 

 

 

Ok, seven day ban, at least he didn't lose everything.

 

 

 

Seven days later, still not unbanned.

 

Eight days later, still not unbanned.

 

 

 

Ninth day I told me him to send in a query about why he wasn't unbanned yet and this was the response:

 

 

 

March 23, 2006

 

Dear B L E E D S,

 

 

 

Thank you for your message,

 

 

 

Unfortunately on this rarest of occasions we have made a mistake when processing a report against you, therefore your ban has been lifted and we have returned your account.

 

 

 

Please except our apologies that this happened to yourself. If we can ever help you again in the future please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

 

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

RuneScape Customer Support

 

 

 

Apology accepted, thank you Jagex for handling it promptly.

 

 

 

The conclusion I came to draw is that he was alching with public chat off and someone was trying to talk to him, he didn't respond and reported him and Jagex is probably overloaded with these sort of things that they didn't truely look into the matter.

 

 

 

Everything is back to normal, I lost a whip + santa hat stake :( but besides that things are normal. Jason hits 80 mage (Charge) and decides to do a couple days of PKing.

 

 

 

Then the unthinkable happens, March 26th, my brother wakes me up (some crazy time like 6:30AM on a weekend) freaking out because he had been banned, why I said, and he responds "Multilogin"

 

 

 

We regret to inform you that this account has been banned because of Multiple Logins.

 

 

 

Please refer to article number 8 in the rules:

 

 

 

Rule 8: You may create more than one RuneScape account, but if you do, you may not log in to more than one account at any time, and they must not interact with each other in any way.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, due to the severity of this complaint this ban is permanent.

 

 

 

If you feel you have been banned in error, you may appeal once. For the appeal to be successful you will need to explain why the ban should be lifted, and will need to convince us there wont be any further problems with this account.

 

 

 

To make an appeal please do so using the Ban Appeal section of the Customer Support area found on the RuneScape website at:

 

http://www.runescape.com

 

 

 

At this point I could see there would be a reason for it due to that although we each have our own computers, we still play on the same wireless network, the same Linksys router, the same D-Link modem, and the same Comcast cable connection. I tell him what to included in the appeal so it can be sorted out quickly, he writes it and I go attempt to login.

 

 

 

No suprises here that I was banned because I assumed since we were "Mutlilogging" that two accounts had to be banned since, multilogging is being logged in with two accounts lol. I try and login, "Your account has been disabled", no suprises here, I jump on my Jagex inbox and was completely and utterly STUN to see this.

 

 

 

We regret to inform you that this account has been banned because of Macroing.

 

 

 

Please refer to article number 7 in the rules:

 

 

 

Rule 7: You must not attempt to use other programs (e.g. bots, macros or autominers) in conjunction with our games

 

to give yourself an unfair advantage at the game. You also may not circumvent any of our mechanisms designed to log out inactive users automatically

 

 

 

For more information please see the Macro FAQ in the FAQ section of the RuneScape website.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, due to the severity of this complaint this ban is permanent.

 

 

 

If you feel you have been banned in error, you may appeal once. For the appeal to be successful you will need to explain why the ban should be lifted, and will need to convince us there wont be any further problems with this account.

 

 

 

To make an appeal please do so using the Ban Appeal section of the Customer Support area found on the RuneScape website at:

 

http://www.runescape.com

 

 

 

Now I am very, very annoyed.

 

 

 

So far its been problem after problem:

 

 

 

March 14 - Jason banned for macroing (7 days)

 

March 23 - Jagex says Jason was falsely banned

 

March 26 - Jason is banned for multilogging (perm, with rejected appeal)

 

March 26 - Chris (me) is banned for macroing (perm, with rejected appeal)

 

 

 

So that leaves me here, explaining our story in a desperation that a Jagex staff is to see it and review the bans and the current situation.

 

 

 

I am:

 

- NOT trying to bash Jagex here, just get things straightened out

 

- NOT making a new account, TosiLX was combat 97, 1300 skill total, and 86 mining - I'm not inclined to start again

 

- Jason will play on if he gives but I won't be there to play "dad" and fund his pure

 

 

 

Thanks for the memories Runescape, although I have noone of my old RSC pics, Ill post what Jason and myself have collected thusfar.

 

 

 

Final (hopefully not) Stats:

 

 

 

Chris:

 

No pic to be found :(

 

79 Attack

 

81 Str

 

76 Def

 

79 HP

 

86 Mining

 

70 Smithing

 

77 Fishing

 

77 Cooking

 

 

 

Jason:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jason gets lucky at Rock Crabs (training, legitly :roll: ):

 

 

 

 

Jason looses his first whip:

 

 

 

 

Chris's best drop, ever (including RSC & RS2):

 

 

 

 

 

Jason begins to train mage:

 

 

 

 

Chris gives his best Runescape friend a hefty present (belated birthday):

 

 

 

 

More mage for Jason:

 

 

 

 

And hundreds of kills and stakes by both Jason and I here:

 

http://www.tosi.us/runescape/kills/bleeds/

 

http://www.tosi.us/runescape/kills/tosilx/

 

 

 

 

 

UPDATE

 

 

 

WOW NOW IM REALLY ANGRY.

 

 

 

I was going to make a new account, a pure, because Rapman was going to help me with costs.

 

 

 

Ive had him about a week and today I bought members for him.

 

 

 

30 MINUTES AFTER I REGISTER HIM FOR MEMBERS.

 

 

 

Hi B A N,

 

 

 

We regret to inform you that your account has been banned due to the character name being deemed as offensive to other players.

 

 

 

In order for this not to happen again, and for you to be able to play RuneScape with another character, please refer to Rule 1:

 

 

 

Rule1.

 

You must not use any language which may be considered by others to be offensive, racist or obscene.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

RuneScape Customer Support

 

 

 

This is total cabbage and Im super A)*ETHF&WE*WEGF( ing pissed.

 

 

 

I had that account at 20 40 1 already, wow.

[Bubsa]

I feel for you pal, I hope you pursue this and eventually are redeemed, but I really have no idea what we can do to help you. I'm sure if you are completely legitimate players, all of tip.it would support you, but unfortunately, our support seems to be the most we can give :(

[RSgamer]

all i can say is make another account and start from scratch again.

 

 

 

Im sorry that you got falsely banned.

[Tosi]

I mean really come on... My skills on TosiLX are hardly different then they were back in RS1 aside from 36 slayer - did I macro those 36 slayer levels...

 

:wall:

[liambre]

that sucks :(

[user1991]

Well in the past few weeks, when false bannings have caught attention on Tip.It, the case has usually been reviewed by Jagex. So hopefully that will happen.

 

 

 

Im sorry about your account.

 

 

 

Keep it real,

 

 

 

Bix

[Striker6]

Take this as a sign, tell your brother to stop spending so much time on a dumb computer game. He shouldn't of broken the rules so tough.

[liambre]

Take this as a sign, tell your brother to stop spending so much time on a dumb computer game. He shouldn't of broken the rules so tough.

 

take it easy grandpa, dont want u breaking those legs now do we :wink:

[Tosi]

Take this as a sign, tell your brother to stop spending so much time on a dumb computer game. He shouldn't of broken the rules so tough.

 

 

 

It really shows that you read the whole thread.

 

 

 

Thanks for contributing. :?

[horntail203]

i am ver y sorry to hear about you being falsely banned, hopefully this will brong some attwention, and jagex will review you case again.

[Dilts36]

all i can say is make another account and start from scratch again.

 

 

 

Im sorry that you got falsely banned.

 

 

 

i totally Agree. :( sorry bro.

[Nitroke]

I hope something like this will never happen to me.. I can't imagen losing all that you've build up for so long..

[yomom1919]

Take this as a sign, tell your brother to stop spending so much time on a dumb computer game. He shouldn't of broken the rules so tough.

 

 

 

mabye runescape makes you smart, cause your obviously not too bright.. can you read? no apparently not, so mabye if you learn how to READ FIRST, you can reply correctly. wow your really stupid lol :roll: :roll:

 

 

 

as for the post, it is 100% unfair on your part. i know there have been multiple complaints, and i highly doubt the employees at jagex and such have taken history class, because they are repeating the mistakes of there predecessors. everyone, everywhere has tried to round up all the bad guys, and the truth is, you cant

 

in regard to this matter, i will include a quote from our great president roosevelt: "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."

[speedofsound]

that really sucks [wagon] man

[QWERTY1]

If you have 2 comps playing off the same router at the same time they will ban you for multilogin.

 

 

 

for autoing? I dont know never happend to me.

[DDA]

I play off of a wireless network using Linksys with my brother as well. I have never had a problem with Jagex. We do not even have the same IPs I believe. Its unfortunate that this happened. But I find it kind of unordinary that Jagex would ban a character twice for the same reasoning without substantial proof.

[ChowRiit]

The fact that in the birthday present screenie he says "thank you tosilx aka bleeds" does NOT help your story. Appologies, but now I don't believe it at all...

[PrinceC]

man I'am sorry about both your accounts being falsely banned. i can't even image being faslely banned and everything I work for will be wasted.

[Tosi]

The fact that in the birthday present screenie he says "thank you tosilx aka bleeds" does NOT help your story. Appologies, but now I don't believe it at all...

 

 

 

I post stake pictures for my brother on Runevillage but thanks.

[wippy_m]

Not to be the one to ruin your appeal or anything, but I'm a tad confused with one small aspect as I feel you may be lying.

 

 

 

In the pic where the rather large birthday gift is given, the chat box underneath reads: "Omg thank you tosilx (aka b l e e d s)". The point being here that the speaker relates the two characters as one person.

 

 

 

This suggests to me the characters are in fact both you, and you have made up this story in an attempt to get your accounts back?

 

 

 

I apologise if this accusation is false, but perhaps you would be so kind as to explain this?

[Silverchipmunk]

Take this as a sign, tell your brother to stop spending so much time on a dumb computer game. He shouldn't of broken the rules so tough.

 

 

 

mabye runescape makes you smart, cause your obviously not too bright.. can you read? no apparently not, so mabye if you learn how to READ FIRST, you can reply correctly. wow your really stupid lol :roll: :roll:

 

 

 

as for the post, it is 100% unfair on your part. i know there have been multiple complaints, and i highly doubt the employees at jagex and such have taken history class, because they are repeating the mistakes of there predecessors. everyone, everywhere has tried to round up all the bad guys, and the truth is, you cant

 

in regard to this matter, i will include a quote from our great president roosevelt: "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."

 

 

 

That wasn't rosevelt... That was Ben Franklin... Rosevelt did make a similar quote though, but I can't remember.

[Guest AshKaYu]

Wewt! I remember your brother! Not personally, but I've seen screenies of the nice gift he gave someone.

[Tosi]

Good observation but there is an explaination for that.

 

 

 

My bro has been logging all of the progress he makes on his pure on Runevillage and Rapman123 happened to donate some materials when he was first starting out. They had became friends and he then also became friends with me because he is much closer to my combat level.

 

 

 

I had lost my whip staking to Wilsonp (whom I also lost that santa too):

 

 

 

 

And Jason had abunch of cash from alching so much so he lent me 3M and I said Id pay him back once I had enough. Jason told me to give the whip to Rapman because he had helped him alot and it was his birthday (I contributed the rune and money). Thats why it says TosiLX AKA BLEEDS

[Bloodredsword]

that stinks man...... :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

there goes jagex again :roll:

[AstrayDog]

Do you know what aka means? if your story was true he would be saying "Thank you tonsilx and b l e e d s" not aka.