Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 i have searched and couldnt find anything on this so here it is if you look on your prayer screen they have moved around leaveing 2 new spots to be filled in. Hopefully these will be really good prayers as you will need 52+ prayer to use them, im hoping for some offencive prayers, that help attack, like a ring of recoil or something like that, or a leeching prayer what do you hope they will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007007008plp Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I think one of them will be like rapid heal but a bit faster. The other? Only the great Gower knows. Or maybe he doesn't maybe no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 an accuracy prayer for ranged or mage would help, or a prayer that can boost the power of the hits for ranged or mage - like the ultimate str prayer, but for ranged or mage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamskii Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Nice find I can't believe I didn't notice that. Hopefully something for the ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 an accuracy prayer for ranged or mage would help, or a prayer that can boost the power of the hits for ranged or mage - like the ultimate str prayer, but for ranged or mage. you want somehitng to help mage and range then, yes its a good idea, but that would be bad for pures, no pure would get 55 and 58 (thats the levels i assume these will require) just for a 10% increase to the skills, but high lvl players with anchients will love it if it is, ice barage with extra help, thats atleast a 9.4 level equivilant increase minimum, thats better than a mage pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 an accuracy prayer for ranged or mage would help, or a prayer that can boost the power of the hits for ranged or mage - like the ultimate str prayer, but for ranged or mage. you want somehitng to help mage and range then, yes its a good idea, but that would be bad for pures, no pure would get 55 and 58 (thats the levels i assume these will require) just for a 10% increase to the skills, but high lvl players with anchients will love it if it is, ice barage with extra help, thats atleast a 9.4 level equivilant increase minimum, thats better than a mage pot ya. The whole point is that it gives unpures an advantage, allowing normal stats people to have a chance against pures. et en plus it is realy annoying for me - being a mager - that meleers get such a massive bonus to thier str from pots and pray, when mage and range only get pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azielgoh Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 yeah one that helps mage and range, all the prayers are basically for melee. NOT GIVING AWAY NEW ACCOUNT NAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 an accuracy prayer for ranged or mage would help, or a prayer that can boost the power of the hits for ranged or mage - like the ultimate str prayer, but for ranged or mage. you want somehitng to help mage and range then, yes its a good idea, but that would be bad for pures, no pure would get 55 and 58 (thats the levels i assume these will require) just for a 10% increase to the skills, but high lvl players with anchients will love it if it is, ice barage with extra help, thats atleast a 9.4 level equivilant increase minimum, thats better than a mage pot ya. The whole point is that it gives unpures an advantage, allowing normal stats people to have a chance against pures. et en plus it is realy annoying for me - being a mager - that meleers get such a massive bonus to thier str from pots and pray, when mage and range only get pots. also the melle pots can be made at a really low herb lvl, where as most players dont raise herb except for heros and other quest so there are not as many producers of mage and range pots as str and att pots or even super pots edit: is my writing huge to anyone else? its set on normal but its as big as huge :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
880asi Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Very nice find indeed. Everything has a purpose, same with these. Moving them means something will be added :). As only 2 new spaces were added I hope my current prayer can withstand the update :). If more had been added I'd have to start grinding again :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^^ um yea...its kinda massive. ANd the pot thing is so true. I had a hell of a time buying mage pots, and they're like 5k ea per 3 dose. Mages use prayer too so all my pots are way more expensive than meleers, + add the price of the runes i use even if i dont get a kill + unless ur taking melee barrows armor and whips into wildy mage amor is about as expensive to lose as melee armor. The number of times i've seen magers get 3 hitted by overpowerd meleers potting massivley to 111 str + 15% extra from prayer, they are looking at about 37's with dd(s) spec and all the str bonuses, meaning they can hit about 296 hit points of one spec bar at max. Now i'm not begrudging them that, i just want to know why the hell I cant hit 30+ with mage, when a comparitvley low powered meleer can score massivley with one. :D And this is tunring into my little rant so I'll stay ontopic from now on :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Very nice find indeed. Everything has a purpose, same with these. Moving them means something will be added :). As only 2 new spaces were added I hope my current prayer can withstand the update :). If more had been added I'd have to start grinding again :( lol, i think with 83 prayer your safe for a few more prayer updates, i think ill be able to use them both, because prayers need 3 lvls higher than the last one, so i think the highest one will be lvl 58 they could be combination protect prays, like the KQ has; protect from mage and range, protect from melle and mage, maybe this is an attempt to get same stat players into the wild more, so they have a chance to protect themsleves from clans and whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^^ um yea...its kinda massive. ANd the pot thing is so true. I had a hell of a time buying mage pots, and they're like 5k ea per 3 dose. Mages use prayer too so all my pots are way more expensive than meleers, + add the price of the runes i use even if i dont get a kill + unless ur taking melee barrows armor and whips into wildy mage amor is about as expensive to lose as melee armor. The number of times i've seen magers get 3 hitted by overpowerd meleers potting massivley to 111 str + 15% extra from prayer, they are looking at about 37's with dd(s) spec and all the str bonuses, meaning they can hit about 296 hit points of one spec bar at max. Now i'm not begrudging them that, i just want to know why the hell I cant hit 30+ with mage, when a comparitvley low powered meleer can score massivley with one. :D And this is tunring into my little rant so I'll stay ontopic from now on :) dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^^ um yea...its kinda massive. ANd the pot thing is so true. I had a hell of a time buying mage pots, and they're like 5k ea per 3 dose. Mages use prayer too so all my pots are way more expensive than meleers, + add the price of the runes i use even if i dont get a kill + unless ur taking melee barrows armor and whips into wildy mage amor is about as expensive to lose as melee armor. The number of times i've seen magers get 3 hitted by overpowerd meleers potting massivley to 111 str + 15% extra from prayer, they are looking at about 37's with dd(s) spec and all the str bonuses, meaning they can hit about 296 hit points of one spec bar at max. Now i'm not begrudging them that, i just want to know why the hell I cant hit 30+ with mage, when a comparitvley low powered meleer can score massivley with one. :D And this is tunring into my little rant so I'll stay ontopic from now on :) dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * Lol i agree with that too. No matter what JaGeX say mage is a peripheral skill, used to hold people still whilst you melee or range them. It is not a combat form in it's own right once you get past lvl 85cb. And i promised i would stop so i probably should :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^^ um yea...its kinda massive. ANd the pot thing is so true. I had a hell of a time buying mage pots, and they're like 5k ea per 3 dose. Mages use prayer too so all my pots are way more expensive than meleers, + add the price of the runes i use even if i dont get a kill + unless ur taking melee barrows armor and whips into wildy mage amor is about as expensive to lose as melee armor. The number of times i've seen magers get 3 hitted by overpowerd meleers potting massivley to 111 str + 15% extra from prayer, they are looking at about 37's with dd(s) spec and all the str bonuses, meaning they can hit about 296 hit points of one spec bar at max. Now i'm not begrudging them that, i just want to know why the hell I cant hit 30+ with mage, when a comparitvley low powered meleer can score massivley with one. :D And this is tunring into my little rant so I'll stay ontopic from now on :) dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * Lol i agree with that too. No matter what JaGeX say mage is a peripheral skill, used to hold people still whilst you melee or range them. It is not a combat form in it's own right once you get past lvl 85cb. And i promised i would stop so i probably should :( lol, back on topic, anyone else got any ideas as to what the prayers will be? rememebr only 2 spots available, and also do you think they will be hidden prayers (dont pop up over your head) or vissible (do pop up over your head) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMIE Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie range spec is nice for a ko. Get 'em low hit a nice double 20 or someting and ko ftw. I would like the cnahce to be able to ko with mage, rather than just using runes until they lag or run out of food. another annoyance...range hits through mage armor, but badly against melee, mage hits thro melee armor, but badly against mage, melee hits through everything like a hot knife through butter apart from other melee armors. At the moment the only sensible tactic if a mage wants to live without armor switching is protect prayer. Everyone hates u for it, but it does stop those realy nasty three hit ko's. I want the chance to double cast barrage or summat, and have the chance of hitting a 60 for a ko. o wait... nooo.... *slaps himself* must stop ranting! ow...my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie range spec is nice for a ko. Get 'em low hit a nice double 20 or someting and ko ftw. I would like the cnahce to be able to ko with mage, rather than just using runes until they lag or run out of food. another annoyance...range hits through mage armor, but badly against melee, mage hits thro melee armor, but badly against mage, melee hits through everything like a hot knife through butter apart from other melee armors. At the moment the only sensible tactic if a mage wants to live without armor switching is protect prayer. Everyone hates u for it, but it does stop those realy nasty three hit ko's. I want the chance to double cast barrage or summat, and have the chance of hitting a 60 for a ko. o wait... nooo.... *slaps himself* must stop ranting! ow...my head... :shock: hitting a 60 while freezing them :shock: that would totally put 94+ mage at the top of the food chain, especially in deep wild where there is no need to tele block, 94 mage would be even more desiarable then it is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie range spec is nice for a ko. Get 'em low hit a nice double 20 or someting and ko ftw. I would like the cnahce to be able to ko with mage, rather than just using runes until they lag or run out of food. another annoyance...range hits through mage armor, but badly against melee, mage hits thro melee armor, but badly against mage, melee hits through everything like a hot knife through butter apart from other melee armors. At the moment the only sensible tactic if a mage wants to live without armor switching is protect prayer. Everyone hates u for it, but it does stop those realy nasty three hit ko's. I want the chance to double cast barrage or summat, and have the chance of hitting a 60 for a ko. o wait... nooo.... *slaps himself* must stop ranting! ow...my head... :shock: hitting a 60 while freezing them :shock: that would totally put 94+ mage at the top of the food chain, especially in deep wild where there is no need to tele block, 94 mage would be even more desiarable then it is now ya but it would be a one hit wonder...like it would use the whole spec bar for one hit. So sure u can rattle of one 60 + 20 secs of freezage, but meleer mage hybrids can stil barrage + spec or blitz+spec for 30+37+37 - the massive (if rare) 1 hit KO, and even if they dont get the 1 hit in, they still have those 20 secs of freezage too. But IMO thats allowed - they have good mage and str, whereas I only have ok mage - the extra power they get is deserved in that respect. Nah mage would stay pretty equal, if not still underpowered as a combat form in it's own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 maybe these new prayers will have a quest requirment to them? like you have to do a new quest, like deveous minds 2? and the high preist of entrana teaches them to you this would be bad for some people as lots of people dont have the required skills to complete DM (50 rc and 65 smithing) so only a small group of people will be able to use the new prayers then, i think that earning the new prayers would be a good idea, prayer isnt easy to get in the first place but then having to do a medium/hard quest would really mean that the users of these prayers would have really earned them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I think it would really make sense for Jadex to make the prayers something that evened out the odds in favour of the non-pures. Don't get me wrong, i have my own pure. but i just get the feeling that Jadex doesn't like pures. When you think about it Pures have twisted the combat system Jadex created so that 'Combat Lvl' Means very little. A good pure can easily tke out a main ten levels higher than himself. Perhaps they mean to change things so that higher CB = Good? :? -Gid 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candymann16 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 I think it would really make sense for Jadex to make the prayers something that evened out the odds in favour of the non-pures. Don't get me wrong, i have my own pure. but i just get the feeling that Jadex doesn't like pures. When you think about it Pures have twisted the combat system Jadex created so that 'Combat Lvl' Means very little. A good pure can easily tke out a main ten levels higher than himself. Perhaps they mean to change things so that higher CB = Good? :? -Gid i dont think that jagex hates pures, pures are just making the most of the possibilities open to them, getting the best stats they can while 'hiding' them behind a low CB, but i too think that these new prayers will be most offencive than deffencive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeader Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 an accuracy prayer for ranged or mage would help, or a prayer that can boost the power of the hits for ranged or mage - like the ultimate str prayer, but for ranged or mage. you want somehitng to help mage and range then, yes its a good idea, but that would be bad for pures, no pure would get 55 and 58 (thats the levels i assume these will require) just for a 10% increase to the skills, but high lvl players with anchients will love it if it is, ice barage with extra help, thats atleast a 9.4 level equivilant increase minimum, thats better than a mage pot ya. The whole point is that it gives unpures an advantage, allowing normal stats people to have a chance against pures. et en plus it is realy annoying for me - being a mager - that meleers get such a massive bonus to thier str from pots and pray, when mage and range only get pots. also the melle pots can be made at a really low herb lvl, where as most players dont raise herb except for heros and other quest so there are not as many producers of mage and range pots as str and att pots or even super pots edit: is my writing huge to anyone else? its set on normal but its as big as huge :| big Merry Crimbo!Click on my signature to see my NEW blog! Clicky here to see my YouTube videos! http://www.youtube.com/volkswagen99videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman789 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie the way i look at it, no mages NEED a special attack, i mean if your a mnage you already have a full arsenal of binds, drains, attack drainers, poison, weakening spells, and even the great teleblock :lol: I'm 106 and I'd do it if it wasn't for what Reb posted... If Reb jumped off a cliff, would you follow him? :lol: Who wouldn't? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman789 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 double post whoops :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm 106 and I'd do it if it wasn't for what Reb posted... If Reb jumped off a cliff, would you follow him? :lol: Who wouldn't? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 dont forget mages dont have special attacks, rnage has mage shorts and long, melle have all drag weps, mages have none *stiring it up is fun :twisted: * The range special attack is absolutely rubbish these days, you can't even get two from a full special bar. If they add a Mage Special, it will probably be the same as the Magic Shortbow special attack (well, using over 1/2 of the special bar). ~Jimmie the way i look at it, no mages NEED a special attack, i mean if your a mnage you already have a full arsenal of binds, drains, attack drainers, poison, weakening spells, and even the great teleblock :lol: Gosh, mage do have a "special attack" just not in the green bar. Remember Mage Arena? You get those three spells and they all do tons of damage plus they have an extra effect. Now on topic, I didnot even notice a change in prayer screen. Well I hope there are new prayers. I have been collecting D bones for quite some time now. A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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