p2p newb got questions bout armor

[theshiznat]

Hi i'm new to members and Ive been thinking about upgrading my armor. I currently use full rune rune boots, glory ammy, rune scimy

 

 

 

First i was going to uprgrade my helm to either a warrior helm or berserker helm. I looked at stats they seem pretty even so an outside opinion would be nice.

 

 

 

Then i was going to upgrade my shield which is a rune kite. I was either going to go witha granite shield or an obby shield. I was leaning more towards obby shield becuz it costed mroe which made me tink it was better lol. But I looked at stats and the obby and granite arnt much better than the rune ktie. In fact only two stats for each are bette the others are worse. This made me think.. well should i just keep the rune ktie. I was wondering are the stats all that matters or is there somting else to factor in. Like since the obby shield requires higher lvl to wield does that make it better regardless. Which shield should i buy or should i keep the rune kite

[Iv_Green_vI]

well, its nice to see more people to join the community, but come on i think you can do a little better then hi.. and not spam please?

[theshiznat]

srry srry but the first time i typed it out it dint work and i had to retype the whole thing so i figured id type somtin real quick to see if it worked to begin with thats y it was such a stupid titel but i wen to edit it immediately after. i just dint wanna type it out a second time and not have it post. Thats the only reason i made it hi and hi

[Iv_Green_vI]

alright i suppose i think you should upgrade to full dragon imediatly :XD:

[Gugge]

Hi and welcome. Please use the help board for questions in the future :)

 

 

 

I suggest to not bother with the granite shield, unless you are looking for range defence. The obby shield has strenght bonus, which is why many people prefer it.

 

 

 

On the other hand, an alternative is to get into the warrior guild, and get a rune defender. Then use rune kite when you fight and need the defence, and rune defender when you dont need that much defence but want offensive boost instead.

 

 

 

You need to do the quest Fremennik trials to use Berserker or Warrior helmet - but yeah they are nice, when I wear a helmet it is my Berserker :P

[Iv_Green_vI]

alright i suppose i think you should upgrade to full dragon imediatly :XD:

[Ard_Choille]

Moved to Help & Advice where it should get better response.

 

 

 

Have fun!

[theshiznat]

Thanks i appreciate that and once again srry for the first post of "hi and Hi' but i didn't mean it as spam or nething like that :cry:

[RAHK]

I always copy what I am about to post just in case something like that happens.

 

 

 

Your shield slot should be filled in this manner:

 

 

 

For offense -

 

Rune (and lower leveled) defender > obby shield > Zammy prayer book > Guthix prayer book

 

 

 

For melee defense -

 

Dragon Square > Crystal Shield > Rune Kite > Obby Shield > Rune defender

 

 

 

For magic defense -

 

Sara prayer book > most everything else. Try guthix book, broodoo shield, etc.

 

 

 

For range defense -

 

Crystal Shield > Granite/Obby Shield > Dragon Square > Rune Kite > Rune Defender

 

 

 

 

 

That should be relatively accurate. I suggest owning a rune defender (or 10 like me, lol), a dragon square, a sara book and a crystal shield or granite shield... get them in that order as well, lol.

 

 

 

P.S. Welcome!

[theshiznat]

Ok I think i understand most of that and how diff Items help either ur offense or ur diff types of d. Also really how important is it to have ur D bonuses really high. Or is it more important to worry about ur str and attack bonuses. Also if I don't have the best stuff in game for each type of defense would keeping my defense up with my str and attack help compensate for my lower d bonuses. Because many ppl i Know keep telling me that i shoulda never got my d up to the 55 it is now. And i think i should get it up to the 60 with my attack and str. Also i Knda want to get a dragon scimmy but ive heard that at my current lvl of 72 i would get slaughterd by that quest.

[RAHK]

Ok I think i understand most of that and how diff Items help either ur offense or ur diff types of d. Also really how important is it to have ur D bonuses really high. Or is it more important to worry about ur str and attack bonuses. Also if I don't have the best stuff in game for each type of defense would keeping my defense up with my str and attack help compensate for my lower d bonuses. Because many ppl i Know keep telling me that i shoulda never got my d up to the 55 it is now. And i think i should get it up to the 60 with my attack and str. Also i Knda want to get a dragon scimmy but ive heard that at my current lvl of 72 i would get slaughterd by that quest.

 

 

 

Just use a d long until you can equip a whip.

 

 

 

You want to max out your defense against things that can destroy you quickly but are a waste for using prayer pots AND/OR are very far from a bank (unless you have guthans/bones to peaches). Max out only the stat that they attack (max mage protect vs. magic enemies) with and otherwise increase your offense.

 

 

 

You want to max your offense for nearly all other tasks. The faster you kill something the faster that you gain xp AND the less time they have to damage you. I suggest getting 45 defense (berserker/warrior), then getting 70 attack (whip), then getting 70 defense (barrows armor, mainly guthans for slayer). Since you already have 45 defense go straight for the whip. You can earn the cash for it pretty quickly by making/running natures. I would say that you could get the cash for it in under 20 hours of fast crafting/running.

[theshiznat]

So if I understand correctly There is no one group of armor that wen equipped is the best for all and that i need to have items that will help to raise my defense for each attack type mage range and melee. So that when I am fighting something for slayer or training I will use the items that are best suited for the type of attack the monster uses. And if I'm not worried about my def then i should use a rune defender or something that provides attack bonus or str bonus to make my hits more accurate and strong.

[RAHK]

So if I understand correctly There is no one group of armor that wen equipped is the best for all Correct. There is no "god" armor that is perfect for all situations and that i need to have items that will help to raise my defense for each attack type mage range and melee. Melee is the most common form of npc attack. Mage is not common except for slayer monsters. Range is pretty rare. That should be your list of importance. So that when I am fighting something for slayer or training I will use the items that are best suited for the type of attack the monster uses. Correct. Most slayer monsters attack with a melee attack that does magical damage. High mage defense or using your melee protect prayer is helpful for staying alive. And if I'm not worried about my def then i should use a rune defender or something that provides attack bonus or str bonus to make my hits more accurate and strong. Correct. Click the PC link in my sig for arguably the best offensive melee set-up possible in the game. You should raise your attack higher if you can't hit your monster very well and raise your strength if you can.

[theshiznat]

Ok I think ive got a good understanding of all that and my last question is wat is a good weapon to keep to train my str once i have a whip. I'm not sure if this is right but u can't focus train str wiht a whip correct. U can use the control and train all three but not just focus on str. So i figure by the time i have a whip i could do most quests to get other weapons so wat would be a good weapon to use for training str

[theshiznat]

Also i would like to thank you for the help. I really appreciate it. Also srry once again for the whole stupid spam post at the beginning i dint do that on purpose nor did i mean it to be spam. From now on I think I'll know what i'm doing and plan to learn a lot about the game from this forum

[drgnrider]

So if I understand correctly There is no one group of armor that wen equipped is the best for all and that i need to have items that will help to raise my defense for each attack type mage range and melee. So that when I am fighting something for slayer or training I will use the items that are best suited for the type of attack the monster uses. And if I'm not worried about my def then i should use a rune defender or something that provides attack bonus or str bonus to make my hits more accurate and strong.

 

 

 

There is no one weapon/armor that is the best. Otherwise everyone would wear that armor and it wouldnt be as fun.

[RAHK]

Ok I think ive got a good understanding of all that and my last question is wat is a good weapon to keep to train my str once i have a whip. I'm not sure if this is right but u can't focus train str wiht a whip correct. U can use the control and train all three but not just focus on str. So i figure by the time i have a whip i could do most quests to get other weapons so wat would be a good weapon to use for training str

 

 

 

Do the following things in order if you haven't already (or as close to this as possible):

 

 

 

1. Raise attack to 70.

 

2. Run/make nats which is like 300k-500k an hour.

 

3. Use that cash to buy a whip.

 

4. Train on controlled.

 

5. Train slayer until you hit combat level 90.

 

6. Join a 90+ pc group like Affliction (click the pc guide link in my sig, then scroll down)

 

7. Put all of your points on strength and cash in every 100 or 200.

 

8. Once you hit 99 strength switch to accurate attack style.

 

9. Get 99 attack with training and points.

 

10. Switch to defensive style.

 

11. Raise your prayer/range/mage as high as you like with points.

 

12. Raise your defense with the points after that.

 

 

 

During this time you will be getting loads of cash from pcing with Affliction (not fast cash per hour but free cash while training). Use this cash to get your gear as close to mine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can't beat high-leveled pc for combat xp. Traing slayer while raising combat until you can join a group.

 

 

 

EDIT #1: This is the method that I am currently using by the way.

 

EDIT #2: To drgnrider: that question was semi-rhetorical and already answered.

 

EDIT #3: Double-posting is also a naughty thing. Either edit your reply or wait until somebody else posts before posting twice in a row. Read the rules so you don't accidently break anymore. No hard feelings, though, of course, since you did not intend to do so.

[theshiznat]

Once again srry for double post didn't really know that was considered bad. I am new to forums and don't post on any until now. I hope that ppl can forgive me for I do not mean to be rude or anything like that

[RAHK]

Once again srry for double post didn't really know that was considered bad. I am new to forums and don't post on any until now. I hope that ppl can forgive me for I do not mean to be rude or anything like that

 

 

 

Forgiven! O:)

 

 

 

Just read the rules so you don't have anymore accidents. I doubt anybody gets mad at forum "newbs" (people who are new to something) while everybody gets mad at forum "noobs" (people who know better but act like and idiot anyway).

[meb]

RAHK pretty much summed it all up, although I do suggest you do Monkey Madness (wich is rather easy -if you have 43 prayer, don't bother if you haven't) because the dragon scimitar>the dragon longsword. And it's very fun also.

[RAHK]

RAHK pretty much summed it all up, although I do suggest you do Monkey Madness (wich is rather easy -if you have 43 prayer, don't bother if you haven't) because the dragon scimitar>the dragon longsword. And it's very fun also.

 

 

 

If his attack is nearly to 70 then I would just skip monkey madness. Otherwise I agree wholeheartedly (excluding the fun part; that quest was a pain in the hienekin). 43 prayer is a MUST so if you have it or are near, do it quickly just in case the prayer update makes the requirment for melee protect higher!

[chenw]

RAHK pretty much summed it all up, although I do suggest you do Monkey Madness (wich is rather easy -if you have 43 prayer, don't bother if you haven't) because the dragon scimitar>the dragon longsword. And it's very fun also.

 

 

 

If his attack is nearly to 70 then I would just skip monkey madness. Otherwise I agree wholeheartedly (excluding the fun part; that quest was a pain in the hienekin). 43 prayer is a MUST so if you have it or are near, do it quickly just in case the prayer update makes the requirment for melee protect higher!

 

 

 

Why would that be though? Because if he doesnt do monkey madness he wont be train his strength with Dragon Scimitar. Should he then stick with D Long/Dagger?

[RAHK]

Why would that be though? Because if he doesnt do monkey madness he wont be train his strength with Dragon Scimitar. Should he then stick with D Long/Dagger?

 

 

 

I am working under the assumption that he is using the rest of my advice:

 

 

 

Do the following things in order if you haven't already (or as close to this as possible):

 

 

 

1. Raise attack to 70.

 

2. Run/make nats which is like 300k-500k an hour.

 

3. Use that cash to buy a whip.

 

4. Train on controlled.

 

5. Train slayer until you hit combat level 90.

 

6. Join a 90+ pc group like Affliction (click the pc guide link in my sig, then scroll down)

 

7. Put all of your points on strength and cash in every 100 or 200.

 

8. Once you hit 99 strength switch to accurate attack style.

 

9. Get 99 attack with training and points.

 

10. Switch to defensive style.

 

11. Raise your prayer/range/mage as high as you like with points.

 

12. Raise your defense with the points after that.

 

 

 

During this time you will be getting loads of cash from pcing with Affliction (not fast cash per hour but free cash while training). Use this cash to get your gear as close to mine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can't beat high-leveled pc for combat xp. Traing slayer while raising combat until you can join a group.

 

 

 

EDIT #1: This is the method that I am currently using by the way.

[gunfire_090]

i dont agree with the full dragon idea, its more expensive than barrows, and is not very much better than full rune, your better off with full torag or any barrows, the defence of those beats full dragons and full rune

[theshiznat]

Ok guys heres wat i'm planning to do. I think this will do quite well. I ahve a d long rite now and I plan to use it to get my 70 in attakc where i will then buy the whip. I plan to either keep the d long or get the dragon scimitar to keep to train my str since the whip can't focus train on str. I'm also going to be buying an obby cape and a berserker helm today also. then i will begin recipe for disaster so i can get the rune gloves until i finish quest where i will then buy barrows gloves.

 

 

 

 

 

Edit#1 I know the d scimmy is probably better than the d long but i think i'll probably hang onto the d long. I'll still do the quest for the scimmy i just like longswords a bit mroe than the scimmy. That's just my personal pref.

 

 

 

 

 

Edit#2 Also i think after i get better gloves, rune or barrows depending on how far i want to go in recipe for disaster. I will have the following as my armor that i will be using for the most part "Full rune, rune boots, glory ammy, warrior or berserker helm not sure which yet, obby cape, rune or barrows gloves and a d long or scimmy which i will then upgrade to the whip later. I will also buy a granite shield and be getting the rune defender and zammy and sara book sara book mainly cuz it boosts def. Granite shield for range def. I think that will give me not only a good base set of armor for melee but also give me good def from range and mage.

 

 

 

 

 

Also is it a good idea to keep a weapon like a d long or d scimmmy to train str since whip doesnt have an option to focus train on str