September 28, 200619 yr Hey, if you're going to copy from somewhere it might as well be the best page in the universe. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be.
September 28, 200619 yr Yeah, but the example on the site is just awesome. Let's test it on tip.it users. Since the politically correct way is to label 'black' people as 'african americans', the politically "correct" addressing itself is full of incorrectness. Assume you saw this picture. African american? No, this guy is from Great Britain. Still none of you would call him British american, or British Australian even if those would reflect the current status of the person. African american..? Yes. This man was born in Ivory Coast, and moved to the United States, so apparently the label now is a geographical one? Make up your minds already. It doesn't matter what you decide to call somebody, chances are you aren't being correct anyway. And no, I didn't hotlink!
September 28, 200619 yr Couldn't agree more with what's been said so far. Having a society in which we are actively aware of race and deliberately attempt to even whatever imbalance might be based purely on skin colour, does no one any good. Political correctness in terms of race should be forgotten, it's not the "people of African ethnicity" who are offended by half of the things that you can't say, it's paranoid politics, and it needs to stop. As Adam has already said, disregarding race altogether would be the best way to forget this, but on the small level, it'll never work. At my school alone we get black guys who are acutely aware of the system and will use every opportunity to say something along the lines of "is it because i'm black?" with tongue and cheeck humour for a few laughs. It's harmless, yeah, but it's still encouraging people to recognise it, even if it's only the subconcious level. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
September 28, 200619 yr There's only one race, the human race. All we need is a good ol' ID4-style Alien invasion to get it through our heads :-k I know the price. I pay it gladly.
September 28, 200619 yr I will speak my mind here. If you've ever heard of 'reverse discrimination', that's where I'm going. See, I get told all these things, by a certain race of people, words I can't say, because I'm of a different race (white). I wouldn't use these words, but I don't want to be told I can't say them due to my race. And then the issue of affirmitive action, of which I really despise, and I believe it is unfair, and unconstitutional. Another example is, I wanted to sign up to a scholarship to study abroad. Well, the only scholarship with 'choice' country I could sign up for was limited to every race except whites. I wanted to scream at the top of my lungs. I was also not able to participate in a community cultural art contest event, I heard about at school, because I was white. I wrote a complaint letter, so far, no response. Just my views, I'm open to constructive criticism. It's a dumb system, just to have more "diversity" you must prefer one ethnicity over another. IMO it's just as dumb as the fact that recently the Norwegian government decided that all big companies must have 40% of the board members WOMEN. Can you imagine it? Yep, nothing based on diversity or race but.. Gender. On top of that, there is a 2 year deadline to finish the "womanization" (...) and there may not even be a decent amount of women suitable for these jobs. That's not that much of a problem in Norway. In Scandinavia, more women work than anywhere else in the world, and their just trying to keep it that way. Me doing staff.
September 28, 200619 yr I will speak my mind here. If you've ever heard of 'reverse discrimination', that's where I'm going. See, I get told all these things, by a certain race of people, words I can't say, because I'm of a different race (white). I wouldn't use these words, but I don't want to be told I can't say them due to my race. And then the issue of affirmitive action, of which I really despise, and I believe it is unfair, and unconstitutional. Another example is, I wanted to sign up to a scholarship to study abroad. Well, the only scholarship with 'choice' country I could sign up for was limited to every race except whites. I wanted to scream at the top of my lungs. I was also not able to participate in a community cultural art contest event, I heard about at school, because I was white. I wrote a complaint letter, so far, no response. Just my views, I'm open to constructive criticism. It's a dumb system, just to have more "diversity" you must prefer one ethnicity over another. IMO it's just as dumb as the fact that recently the Norwegian government decided that all big companies must have 40% of the board members WOMEN. Can you imagine it? Yep, nothing based on diversity or race but.. Gender. On top of that, there is a 2 year deadline to finish the "womanization" (...) and there may not even be a decent amount of women suitable for these jobs. That's not that much of a problem in Norway. In Scandinavia, more women work than anywhere else in the world, and their just trying to keep it that way. I see nothing wrong with women filling the boards of large corporations; I see a big problem with forcing it. Those guys sitting in the boards are hard boiled old men who created those companies or bought the majority shares/rose into position by promotion. You can't just put a woman here and there just because of her gender, she must have qualification too. And I'm willing to bet currently that even in a liberal country such as Norway, with a population of 4.3 million there can't be over five thousand women with decades of experience in running international companies and managing stock portfolios to fill the boards. If you start dragging women there from the customer support, it will just be a comical situation. I believe in 'free supply and demand'. Just let things evolve as they do (since in nordic countries the amount of women rising to executive tasks is already exponential) and there will be 40% without any laws necessary. But forcing an old dog to run rounds around the stadium doesn't happen in an instant.
September 28, 200619 yr I will speak my mind here. If you've ever heard of 'reverse discrimination', that's where I'm going. See, I get told all these things, by a certain race of people, words I can't say, because I'm of a different race (white). I wouldn't use these words, but I don't want to be told I can't say them due to my race. And then the issue of affirmitive action, of which I really despise, and I believe it is unfair, and unconstitutional. Another example is, I wanted to sign up to a scholarship to study abroad. Well, the only scholarship with 'choice' country I could sign up for was limited to every race except whites. I wanted to scream at the top of my lungs. I was also not able to participate in a community cultural art contest event, I heard about at school, because I was white. I wrote a complaint letter, so far, no response. Just my views, I'm open to constructive criticism. It's a dumb system, just to have more "diversity" you must prefer one ethnicity over another. IMO it's just as dumb as the fact that recently the Norwegian government decided that all big companies must have 40% of the board members WOMEN. Can you imagine it? Yep, nothing based on diversity or race but.. Gender. On top of that, there is a 2 year deadline to finish the "womanization" (...) and there may not even be a decent amount of women suitable for these jobs. That's not that much of a problem in Norway. In Scandinavia, more women work than anywhere else in the world, and their just trying to keep it that way. I see nothing wrong with women filling the boards of large corporations; I see a big problem with forcing it. Those guys sitting in the boards are hard boiled old men who created those companies or bought the majority shares/rose into position by promotion. You can't just put a woman here and there just because of her gender, she must have qualification too. And I'm willing to bet currently that even in a liberal country such as Norway, with a population of 4.3 million there can't be over five thousand women with decades of experience in running international companies and managing stock portfolios to fill the boards. If you start dragging women there from the customer support, it will just be a comical situation. I believe in 'free supply and demand'. Just let things evolve as they do (since in nordic countries the amount of women rising to executive tasks is already exponential) and there will be 40% without any laws necessary. But forcing an old dog to run rounds around the stadium doesn't happen in an instant. I do agree. Experience, qualificatin, and education should be an issue. But keep in mind, Norway is, and has been for the past couple years, the best country in the world. I'm not saying that makes them supreme, or anything. But I believe they will sort it out, there must be more to that situation that we don't know, it doesn't seem quite right. Me doing staff.
September 28, 200619 yr I agree, people shouldn't be given special treatment over race, negitive OR positive. Funny thing about racism is that usualy the ones crying racist are the biggest racists themselves. White guy happens to not treat a black man/women like they are royalty, he is automaticly a racist. Because she believes that is a white guy treats him/her bad then it's because he's in the clan. Also other things, like affirmative action, Negro Collage foundation, ect... I don't mean to pick on the black people but it's what comes up at the top of my head, a white/hispanic/asian college foundation would be racist, so why isn't a negro college foundation racist? Black people are no less intelligent than whites or hispanics or even asians Therefore it seems to me like they should stop blaming everything on racism and just get things done. Ignoring race is deffinatly whats needed, labeling people by what they cannot control is always bad. The system can do this easily, but can the people, who are the inherent root of the problem, ignore race.
September 29, 200619 yr You can't just put a woman here and there just because of her gender, she must have qualification too. And I'm willing to bet currently that even in a liberal country such as Norway, with a population of 4.3 million there can't be over five thousand women with decades of experience in running international companies and managing stock portfolios to fill the boards. The type of job has to be taken into consideration as well. There are some positions better suited to men, and other positions better suited to women. Job positions that involve greater physical strength are going to be predominantly filled by men, as men are generally physically stronger than women. Bear in mind that men are generally more mathematical/logical than women, and women are generally more everything else :P. The thing about being on an administrative board is that that position is going to require logic/mathematics; it's just a fact that cannot be ignored. I'm not saying that we should base things on gender, I'm just saying that males are predisposed towards having certain qualities, while women are predisposed towards having other qualities. Thus, if we do base our decision on qualifications, we may find the gender equality map to be a little skewed.
September 29, 200619 yr USA apparently categorises people for all sorts of reasons; risk levels; how much credit they could be granted; education... Yeah, apparently we are the best country EVER. So obviously we are doing something right. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so.
September 29, 200619 yr USA apparently categorises people for all sorts of reasons; risk levels; how much credit they could be granted; education... Yeah, apparently we are the best country EVER. So obviously we are doing something right. Maybe we're just the best country ever at keeping records Which really isn't the best thing for the common man if you think about it :?
September 29, 200619 yr USA apparently categorises people for all sorts of reasons; risk levels; how much credit they could be granted; education... Yeah, apparently we are the best country EVER. So obviously we are doing something right. Maybe we're just the best country ever at keeping records Which really isn't the best thing for the common man if you think about it :? I don't know if it's good for the common man or not - but if that's the only thing we're the best at, apparently that's what decides which country is the best. Ever. In the whole world. Because we are.
September 29, 200619 yr What do you think about ethnic quotas?They're [cabbage]. Fill the position with the person most qualified for it. Same too goes for gender-quotas.
September 29, 200619 yr USA apparently categorises people for all sorts of reasons; risk levels; how much credit they could be granted; education... Yeah, apparently we are the best country EVER. So obviously we are doing something right. Maybe we're just the best country ever at keeping records Which really isn't the best thing for the common man if you think about it :? I don't know if it's good for the common man or not - but if that's the only thing we're the best at, apparently that's what decides which country is the best. Ever. In the whole world. Because we are. We just finish top 2/3 for everything else, which gives us the best ranking because noone is that consistant in everything :)
September 29, 200619 yr We just finish top 2/3 for everything else, which gives us the best ranking because noone is that consistant in everything :) I'm not quite sure what these statistics you're throwing at me mean. I just know we're the best country ever.
September 29, 200619 yr The type of job has to be taken into consideration as well. There are some positions better suited to men, and other positions better suited to women. Job positions that involve greater physical strength are going to be predominantly filled by men, as men are generally physically stronger than women. Bear in mind that men are generally more mathematical/logical than women, and women are generally more everything else :P. The thing about being on an administrative board is that that position is going to require logic/mathematics; it's just a fact that cannot be ignored. I'm not saying that we should base things on gender, I'm just saying that males are predisposed towards having certain qualities, while women are predisposed towards having other qualities. Thus, if we do base our decision on qualifications, we may find the gender equality map to be a little skewed. ... what about governing/participating in the rule of a democratic country? -This message was deviously brought to you by:
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