DegenerateX Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Alright this thread is entirely about the crystal bow, and only the crystal bow! Please no "rune knives are better", "u should use darts", "haha noob", or other random junk. Sorry if that seems rather rude but I have gotten several replies in my past topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. A suggested way would be to quote the list of questions I am about to make and then enter in your answer on the line below and highlight it in bold. Alright now that we got that over, on to the questions. 1. I understand the crystal bwo recharges depend on the player, not th seed. 2. How many shots can I use on a crystal bow before it degrades from 10/10 to 9/10, and is it a constant ratio of hits until the next degration or does it slope somewhere? 3. If I spent __X__ amount of hits with one bow, and then right before it degrades switch to another bow, then the other bow will degrade in the next few shots that I make. Then I can switch back to the 10/10 bow adn repeat the whole process. This gives me a 10/10 bow for the entire time of use? 4. Concerning recharging a bow. Can you only recharge it once it has run out, or can I recharge it any times I want? 5. Assuming I can recharge it anytime I want, what stops me from taking 1 show and then recharging it the 5 or so times until I get the cheapest recharge price, or does it only give you the discount if you recharge the bow once it has been fully degraded? 6. What monsters can I face with a crystal bow, that will make up for the cost of the crystal bow in COMMON drops, excluding the luck of getting a "rare" drop? (REMEMBER THIS IS TO COVER THE COST OF THE ORIGONAL BOW THAT COSTS 900k! NOT THE CHEAPER VARIATIONS THAT COME LATER ON! 7. Is the crystal bow at 10/10 stronger than a mage shortbow with rune arrows, and if so at what level of degration does it become weaker than a mage shortbow with rune arrows? 8. Is the crystal bow good for staking in the duel arena due to its strenght (assuming it was 10/10) or is it horrible due to its lack of speed. As of right now I think its god-awful from what I've heard, since the mage shortbow is quite a knack to slow compared to rune knives already. 9. How good/bad is the crystal bow at pest control with 75-80 range? Would I get the necesary damage for getting a ticket in game that ranged from 2-3 minutes? Thanks for all your helps guys, I really appreciate it. I have about 3.5 mil at the moment so I should be able to afford it at the start, I just need to make sure the drops can reimburse me. Looking for someone to teach me how to Armadyl farm - pm me10,200th Person to Achieve 99 Magic on 1/10/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Corsair Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Alright this thread is entirely about the crystal bow, and only the crystal bow! Please no "rune knives are better", "u should use darts", "haha noob", or other random junk. Sorry if that seems rather rude but I have gotten several replies in my past topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. A suggested way would be to quote the list of questions I am about to make and then enter in your answer on the line below and highlight it in bold. Alright now that we got that over, on to the questions. 1. I understand the crystal bwo recharges depend on the player, not th seed. 2. How many shots can I use on a crystal bow before it degrades from 10/10 to 9/10, and is it a constant ratio of hits until the next degration or does it slope somewhere? 250 shots per degrade - 2500 total for the bow 3. If I spent __X__ amount of hits with one bow, and then right before it degrades switch to another bow, then the other bow will degrade in the next few shots that I make. Then I can switch back to the 10/10 bow adn repeat the whole process. This gives me a 10/10 bow for the entire time of use? Yes you can, a lot of people do this to keep their bonus as high as possible. 4. Concerning recharging a bow. Can you only recharge it once it has run out, or can I recharge it any times I want? Only when it's fully degraded into a seed 5. Assuming I can recharge it anytime I want, what stops me from taking 1 show and then recharging it the 5 or so times until I get the cheapest recharge price, or does it only give you the discount if you recharge the bow once it has been fully degraded? Can't recharge anything but seeds 6. What monsters can I face with a crystal bow, that will make up for the cost of the crystal bow in COMMON drops, excluding the luck of getting a "rare" drop? (REMEMBER THIS IS TO COVER THE COST OF THE ORIGONAL BOW THAT COSTS 900k! NOT THE CHEAPER VARIATIONS THAT COME LATER ON! I'd recommend fire giants 7. Is the crystal bow at 10/10 stronger than a mage shortbow with rune arrows, and if so at what level of degration does it become weaker than a mage shortbow with rune arrows? Yes, and I think at level 3 it becomes a little bit worse than magic bow 8. Is the crystal bow good for staking in the duel arena due to its strenght (assuming it was 10/10) or is it horrible due to its lack of speed. As of right now I think its god-awful from what I've heard, since the mage shortbow is quite a knack to slow compared to rune knives already. Don't know on that one sorry. 9. How good/bad is the crystal bow at pest control with 75-80 range? Would I get the necesary damage for getting a ticket in game that ranged from 2-3 minutes? Don't know this one either hopfully someone else will If Jagex ever made a perfect update, there would be players complaining about nothing to complain about.[hide=My Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateX Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hey thanks a lot man, you answered the main question I had. Can anyone confirm that at 3/10 (I assume thats what you meant by level 3) that the crystal bow is weaker than magic shortbow with rune arrows, or did you mean at 7/10 the crystal bow is weaker than a magic shortbow with rune arrows? Also any other monster recomendations for training Range besides Fire Giants to earn back 900k! to reimburse money I spent on the bow? Looking for someone to teach me how to Armadyl farm - pm me10,200th Person to Achieve 99 Magic on 1/10/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecube Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 You could also range blue dragons to get your money back. I don't know how it compares to fire giants though. This is from RuneHQ's Special Guide on Crystal Items: Look mainly at the bottom part. Crystal Bow Degrades: Every 250 arrow shots (10 degrades total) Cost from elf Islwyn: 900k Recharge cost from elf Ilfeen: # of Charge Cost 1 900k 2 700k 3 540k 4 360k 5+ 180k Bonuses Bow state defense 10/10 100+ Range 9/10 96+ Range 8/10 92+ Range 7/10 88+ Range 6/10 84+ Range 5/10 80+ Range 4/10 76+ Range 3/10 72+ Range 2/10 68+ Range 1/10 64+ Range Speed Accurate: 20 shots per minute Rapid: 25 shots per minute Damage 25% Range Skill at Full Charge 20% Range Skill at 1/10 In case you didnt know, this means APPROXIMATELY 25% your range skill is your Max Damage. Increase this damage using a range potion. As your bow degrades, percentage drops about .5% each time. Costs At 180k recharge for 2500 shots, 72gp per shot. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Comparison Magic Shortbow Cost: 3k gp Range: +69 (beats crystals 2/10) Speed: 25/35 shots per minute accurate/rapid Damage: 20% Range skill with rune arrows Ammo: 400gp per rune arrow, 20% breakage so averages 80gp per shot. Requires: 50 Range Karils Crossbow Cost: 350k-400k gp Range: +85 (beats crystals 6/10) Speed: unknown Damage: unknown Ammo: 175 gp per shot (one use bolts) Requires: 70 Range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordfan21 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Alright this thread is entirely about the crystal bow, and only the crystal bow! Please no "rune knives are better", "u should use darts", "haha noob", or other random junk. Sorry if that seems rather rude but I have gotten several replies in my past topics that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. A suggested way would be to quote the list of questions I am about to make and then enter in your answer on the line below and highlight it in bold. Alright now that we got that over, on to the questions. 1. I understand the crystal bwo recharges depend on the player, not th seed. 2. How many shots can I use on a crystal bow before it degrades from 10/10 to 9/10, and is it a constant ratio of hits until the next degration or does it slope somewhere? 250 shots per degrade - 2500 total for the bow 3. If I spent __X__ amount of hits with one bow, and then right before it degrades switch to another bow, then the other bow will degrade in the next few shots that I make. Then I can switch back to the 10/10 bow adn repeat the whole process. This gives me a 10/10 bow for the entire time of use? Yes you can, a lot of people do this to keep their bonus as high as possible. 4. Concerning recharging a bow. Can you only recharge it once it has run out, or can I recharge it any times I want? Only when it's fully degraded into a seed 5. Assuming I can recharge it anytime I want, what stops me from taking 1 show and then recharging it the 5 or so times until I get the cheapest recharge price, or does it only give you the discount if you recharge the bow once it has been fully degraded? Can't recharge anything but seeds 6. What monsters can I face with a crystal bow, that will make up for the cost of the crystal bow in COMMON drops, excluding the luck of getting a "rare" drop? (REMEMBER THIS IS TO COVER THE COST OF THE ORIGONAL BOW THAT COSTS 900k! NOT THE CHEAPER VARIATIONS THAT COME LATER ON! I'd recommend fire giants 7. Is the crystal bow at 10/10 stronger than a mage shortbow with rune arrows, and if so at what level of degration does it become weaker than a mage shortbow with rune arrows? Yes, and I think at level 3 it becomes a little bit worse than magic bow 8. Is the crystal bow good for staking in the duel arena due to its strenght (assuming it was 10/10) or is it horrible due to its lack of speed. As of right now I think its god-awful from what I've heard, since the mage shortbow is quite a knack to slow compared to rune knives already. Don't know on that one sorry. 9. How good/bad is the crystal bow at pest control with 75-80 range? Would I get the necesary damage for getting a ticket in game that ranged from 2-3 minutes? Don't know this one either hopfully someone else will 6. Blue Dragons. Barrows (Ahrim). 7. It is always stronger. It is more accurate from 3/10 on up. 8. It isn't very good because it is fairly slow. Most people prefer rune knives or obby rings in the duel arena. 9. You will get your 50 points in PC but the coins that you get per game won't cover the cost of the recharges. Z0mg look im so kool even mods tok to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateX Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 Sweet thanks. Looks like crystal bow is the way to go. Thanks for also posting the range bonus at the different degration levels and the speed of each. Looks like firegiants will come out even since they always drop b bones and something else, with the occasional rune scim catching me up to the negative reimbursement every once in a while. I've never done Barrows, and don't intend to as I have 1 prayer and 2 defence. (I will get higher defence later to become a tank pure but for now its out of the question until I get 90 range) Blue Dragons sound nice, I've never tried them, but I have heared they're good. Too bad about the D bones prices dropping though. I use mage shortbow with rune arrows in the arena as I find it's the right balance of speed and power, especialy with the fast spec. Yes I know you can do spec and then switch weapons but I honestly prefer this method, and win most of my stakes (in my blog). I guess PC won't cover the costs of ranging. Totaly forgot about that. :wall: Looking for someone to teach me how to Armadyl farm - pm me10,200th Person to Achieve 99 Magic on 1/10/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phata_elise Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I suggest you kill blue dragons to recover the costs, these seem to generate the most money per kill. And while we're on topic, how does the recharging works if you buy a second bow? I recharged my first bow about 3-4 times now, will I also be able to benefit from the reduced recharging costs for a newly bought crystal bow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 And while we're on topic, how does the recharging works if you buy a second bow? I recharged my first bow about 3-4 times now, will I also be able to benefit from the reduced recharging costs for a newly bought crystal bow? Correct, only the number of recharges you have performed matters, the bow is not in the equation. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp2rr Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 If you are using 2 crystal bows to keep your bonus up on one (switching bows before it degrades)... How do you keep track of how many time it has been used??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 If you are using 2 crystal bows to keep your bonus up on one (switching bows before it degrades)... How do you keep track of how many time it has been used??? Count :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateX Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yep, that means you might be a bit slower at killing since you have to count them all, but it does give you some advtantages. It makes an incentive to pay attention so you don't go do something else, this can increase your chance of quickly getting drops and attacking another one. + Higher damage = more xp = faster leveling = Me happy :D Looking for someone to teach me how to Armadyl farm - pm me10,200th Person to Achieve 99 Magic on 1/10/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicycleboy Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 you can range black dragons. i have a friend that got 300 rune knives on one of the drops off of one. that is 300k, 33% of price aint bad for a drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 1. I understand the crystal bwo recharges depend on the player, not th seed. Yep. 2. How many shots can I use on a crystal bow before it degrades from 10/10 to 9/10, and is it a constant ratio of hits until the next degration or does it slope somewhere? 250 for every degrade, the difference is small but noticable if you compare a 2/10 with a 10/10. Your max hit drops by 1, maybe 2. Of course this is not for every degrade but for the entire bow. 3. If I spent __X__ amount of hits with one bow, and then right before it degrades switch to another bow, then the other bow will degrade in the next few shots that I make. Then I can switch back to the 10/10 bow adn repeat the whole process. This gives me a 10/10 bow for the entire time of use? You will need a second crystal bow of course; and they cost 900k no matter how much the recharge cost is. Tedious, but it works. 4. Concerning recharging a bow. Can you only recharge it once it has run out, or can I recharge it any times I want? It has to have 0 charges (wich turns it into a seed). 5. Assuming I can recharge it anytime I want, what stops me from taking 1 show and then recharging it the 5 or so times until I get the cheapest recharge price, or does it only give you the discount if you recharge the bow once it has been fully degraded? No comment. 6. What monsters can I face with a crystal bow, that will make up for the cost of the crystal bow in COMMON drops, excluding the luck of getting a "rare" drop? (REMEMBER THIS IS TO COVER THE COST OF THE ORIGONAL BOW THAT COSTS 900k! NOT THE CHEAPER VARIATIONS THAT COME LATER ON! Blue dragons or green dragons, if you want to utilise the "trick" you mentioned go with blue dragons because you might get pk'ed at the greens. 7. Is the crystal bow at 10/10 stronger than a mage shortbow with rune arrows, and if so at what level of degration does it become weaker than a mage shortbow with rune arrows? The range bonus becomes worse at 2/10, but I still seem to hit as much, of not higher. 8. Is the crystal bow good for staking in the duel arena due to its strenght (assuming it was 10/10) or is it horrible due to its lack of speed. As of right now I think its god-awful from what I've heard, since the mage shortbow is quite a knack to slow compared to rune knives already. I don't stake. 9. How good/bad is the crystal bow at pest control with 75-80 range? Would I get the necesary damage for getting a ticket in game that ranged from 2-3 minutes? It's great, especially for killing spinners. Costly of course. Thanks for all your helps guys, I really appreciate it. I have about 3.5 mil at the moment so I should be able to afford it at the start, I just need to make sure the drops can reimburse me. You won't make all of it back, but you'll get back at least 1m. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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