The Official 2pac Discussion Thread

KnightLite · November 2, 2006

You're thinking, Oh god.. another tupac topic floating around. There have been many random posts about Tupac, with occasional suggestions for songs to download of his.

Now, for your viewing pleasure, I have compiled a complete list of his songs, and have reviewed each one that I have access to. Feel free to add anything you want, as I have not heard every song of his yet!

Songs Highlighted in Red are my personal favorites

2Pacalypse Now (1991)

Young Black Male -

Trapped -

Soulja's Story -

I Don't Give a F*** -

Violent -

Words Of Wisdom -

Something Wicked -

Crooked a** n**** -

If My Homie Calls -

Benda's Got a Baby - Very powerful song about a 12 year old girl who became pregnant and goes through many struggles. Based on a real event.

Tha' Lunatic -

Rebel Of The Underground - Old School Rap, nothing special

Part Time Mutha -

Strictly For My N.*.*.G.A.Z (1993)

Holler If Ya Hear Me -

Pac's Theme (Interlude) -

Point The Finga -

Something 2 Die 4 -

Last Wordz -

Souljah's Revenge -

Peep Game -

Strugglin' -

Guess Who's Back -

Representin' 93 -

Keep Ya Head Up - Very touching song for single pregnant women. Good overall message.

Strictly For My N.*.*.G.A.Z -

The Streetz R Deathrow -

I Get Around -

Papa'z Song -

5 Deadly Venomz - Fun song to just listen to, krunk music.

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The Lost Tapes (1994)

Pather Power -

The Case Of The Misplaced Mic -

Let Knowledge Drop -

Never Be Beat -

A Day In The Life -

My Burnin' Heart -

Minnie The Moocher -

The Case Of The Misplaced Mic II -

Static Mix I -

Static Mix II -

Thug Life - Volume 1 (1994)

Bury Me A G - I love the instrumentals of this song, very entrancing

Don't Get It Twisted -

Sh*t Don't Stop -

Pour Out A Little Liquor -

Stay True -

How Long Will They Mourn Me? -

Under Pressure -

Street Fame -

Cradle To The Grave -

Str8 Ballin' -

Me Against the World

Intro -

If I Die 2 Night -

Me Against The World -

So Many Tears - Simple instrumentals with Tupac rapping to them

Temptations -

Young N**gaz - Another good instrumental, very decent song

Heavy In The Game -

Lord Knows - Instrumentals are great

Dear Mama - One of his best songs dedicated to his Mama. A song that everybody should hear

It Ain't Easy - Softcore rap, easy to listen to

Can You Get Away - R&B feel to the song, very easy on the ears

Old School - Mediocre song, worthy of listening to

F*ck The World

Death Around The Corner -

Outlaw - Slow paced song, simple rap

All Eyez On Me: Disc 1 (1996)

Ambitionz Az A Ridah -

All About U - Fun song that you can sing along with

Skandalouz -

Got My Mind Made Up -

How Do U Want It - My favorite song to dance to of Tupacs. A must hear for Tupac fans

2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted -

No More Pain -

Heartz Of Men -

Life Goes On - One of his famous works, he raps about his own funeral. Great song, was actually played at my friends funeral within the last year

Only God Can Judge Me Now - Famous 2pac quote "Only God can judge me". Good song to listen to

Tradin' War Stories - Semi-hardcore rap. Easy to listen to

Califonia Love (remix) - Almost the same as the original. Great dance song

I Ain't Mad At Cha - Piano instrumentals, good overal message in the song

What'Z Ya Phone # -

All Eyez On Me: Disc 2 (1996)

Can't See Me -

Shorty Wanna Be a Thug - Average song, nothing special

Holla At Me -

Wonda Why They Call U B*tch -

When We Ride -

Thug Passion -

Picture Me Rollin' - Simple instrumentals with 2pac rapping, nothign special

Check Out Time -

Ratha Be Ya N**ga - Very easy song to listen to. Soft on the ears, a must hear

All Eyez On Me - Another one of Tupac's famous songs. Not personally my fav, but worth listening to

Run Tha Streets -

Ain't Hard 2 Find -

Heaven Aint Hard 2 Find - Good instrumentals with good lyrics.

California Love (Radio Edit) - Famous song, many people have heard it. Good dancing song

Makaveli - The Don Killuminati: The Seven Day Theory (1996)

Intro -

Bomb First -

Hail Mary - Rather depressing song, worthy of listening to

Toss It Up -

To Live and Die in LA -

Blasphemy -

Life Of An Outlaw -

Just Like Daddy -

Krazy -

White Man's World - Great instrumentals although the lyrics aren't the best

Me and My Girlfriend - One of my least favorite songs of his.

Hold Ya Head -

Against All Odds -

R U Still Down? (Remember Me): Disc 1 (1997)

Redemption -

Open Fire -

R U Still Down? (Remember Me) - Mediocre song, worthy of listening to tho

Hellrazor - Very deep song with powerful lyrics within it. Heavy heavy heavy

Thug Style -

Where Do We Go From Here -

I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto - Great Tupac song, a must hear

Nothing To Lose -

I'm Gettin' Money -

Lie To Kick It -

F*ck All Y'all -

Let Them Thangs Go -

Definition Of A Thug N**ga -

R U STill Down? (Remember Me): Disc 2 (1997)

Ready 4 Whatever -

When I Get Free -

Hold On Be Strong -

I'm Losin' It -

Fake A** B*tches -

Do For Love - Based from Bobby Caldwell's "Do For Love", this is a great song, a must hear

Enemies With Me -

Nothin' But Love -

16 On Death Row -

I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (Hip-hop Version) - Just like the originial but with a dance groove to it. Great song

When I Get Free II -

Black Starry Night (Interlude) -

Only Fear Of Death -

Greatest Hits: Disc 1 (1998)

Keep Ya Head Up - Again, a must hear, very powerful

2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted -

Temptations -

God Bless The Dead -

Hail Mary - Worthy of listening to

Me Against The World -

How Do U Want It - Great Dancing Song, a must hear

So Many Tears - Simple instrumentals with simple rap, nothing special

Unconditional Love - Great lyrics of the song, and instrumentals aren't bad either, another must hear

Trapped -

Life Goes On - Must Hear

Hit 'Em Up - I like the instrumentals, although the lyrics aren't the best

Greatest Hits: Disc 2 (1998)

Troublesome '96 -

Brenda's Got A Baby - Powerful song, must hear

I Ain't Mad At Cha - Good piano instrumentals, worthy of hearing

I Get Around -

Changes - The BEST song Tupac ever made. With instrumentals based from Bruce Hornsby's "That's Just The Way It Is", this has been my favorite song since the 8th grade (Freshman in College now). You ABSOLUTELY must hear this song. AMAZING lyrics and AMAZING instrumentals

California Love (original version) - Once again, great dance music

Picture Me Rollin' - Simple song, nothing special

How Long Will They Mourn Me? -

Toss It Up -

Dear Mama - Must hear song, one of his best works

All About U - Fun song, worthy of hearing

To Live and Die in LA -

Heartz Of Men -

In His Own Words (1998)

Intro -

The People Made Me -

Evolution Of A Thug -

No Peace Treaty -

Trouble Followed -

What Happened -

Mad Trouble -

In His Own Words -

Darkneses Comes To Light -

My Enemies -

Practice What You Preach -

Final Projects -

Mourn You Till I Join You -

The Last Days -

Be The Realist -

Stop The Gunfire -

Pac & Biggie You Never Heard

Intro -

Biggy Interview -

Don't Tempt Me -

Road To Riches -

Die Slow -

Bullet Proof -

Troublesome -

Ghetto Funk -

Biggy & Pac Concert -

Pac Big and Easy Tribute -

Change My Ways -

Real N*ggas -

All About My Paper -

Let's Be Friends -

Ghetto Train -

Happy Home -

It Be Real -

Pac's Life -

It Be Goin' Down -

Bonus Track -

Still I Rise (1999)

Letter To The President -

Still I Rise -

Secretz Of War -

Baby Don't Cry (keep ya head up) - Great song, simple instrumentals but great lyrics

As The World Turns -

Black Jesuz -

Homeboyz -

Hell 4 A Hustler -

High Speed -

The Good Die Young -

Killuminati -

Teardrops And Close Caskets -

Tattoo Tears -

U Can Be Touched -

Y'all Don't Know Us -

The Here After (1999)

Dedication -

Real Bad Boys -

Be The Realist -

Ooh Wee -

California Hustler -

Raise Up Off These N.U.T.S -

Monday Morning -

Stop The Gun Fight -

West Coast -

Never Say Never -

Criminal -

Slippin' Into Darkness -

Until The End Of Time: Disc 1 (2001)

Ballad Of A Dead Soulja - Simple instrumentals with Hardcore rap

F*ck Friendz -

Lil' Homies - Definately not one of my fav songs...

Let Em Have It -

Good Life -

Letter 2 My Unborn - Some people really like this song, I'm not one of them

Breathin -

Happy Home -

All Out -

F*ckin Wit The Wrong N**ga -

Thug N U Thug N Me (remix_ -

Everything They Owe -

Until The End Of Time - Great song, a must hear

M.O.B. -

World Wide Mob Figgaz -

Until The End Of Time: Disc 2 (2001)

Big Syke Interlude -

My Closest Roaddogz -

N*ggaz Nature Remix -

When Thugz Cry - Feat Bizzie Bone, not one of my favorites, but then again, i'm not a Bizzie Bone fan

U Don't Have 2 Worry -

This Ain't Living -

Why U Turn on Me? -

Lastonesleft -

Thug N U Thug N Me -

Words 2 My First Born -

Let Them Have It (remix) -

Runnin On E -

When I Get Free -

Until The End Of Time RP Remix - Once again, great song

Better Dayz: Disc 1 (2002)

Intro -

Still Ballin' -

When We Ride On Our Enemies -

Changed Man -

F*ck Em All -

Never B Peace -

Mama's Just A Little Girl -

Street Fame -

Whatcha Gonna Do? -

Fair Xchange -

Late Night - Great song, worthy of hearing

Ghetto Star -

Thugz Mansion (Acoustic) - Probably my 2nd favorite Tupac song ever. Very soothing guitar with 2pac rapping. Great lyrics, Amazing instrumentals

Better Dayz: Disc 2 (2002)

My Block - Guitar is soothing, song is very nice

Thugz Mansion - Album version, personally I don't like it as much as the acoustic version, but it's still worthy of hearing

Never Call U B*tch Again -

Better Dayz - Great upbeat song

U Can Call -

Military Mindz -

Fame -

Fair Xchange (remix) -

Catchin Feelings -

There U Go -

This Life I lead -

Who Do You Believe In? -

They Don't Give A F*ck About Us -

Outro -

Resurrection (2003)

Ghost -

One Day At A Time - Feat Eminem, semi-hardcore. Worthy of hearing

Death Around The Corner -

Secretz Of War -

Runnin' (Dying To Live) - His latest #1 hit feat Biggie Smalls and Edgar Winters, produced by Eminem. Great song a must hear

Holler If Ya Hear Me -

Starin' Through My Rear View -

Bury Me A G - Great instrumentals, a must hear

Same Song - Simple simple song. Very old after a while

Panther Power -

Str8 Ballin' -

Rebel Of The Underground - Simple simple song. Very old after a while

The Realist Killaz - Very hardcore, yet very addicting song

2pac Live (2004)

Live Medley -

Intro -

Ambitionz Az A Ridah -

So Many Tears -

Troublesome -

Hit 'Em Up -

Tattoo Tears -

Heartz Of Men -

All About U -

Never Call You B*tch Again -

How Do U Want It -

2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted -

California Love -

Loyal To The Game (2004)

Soldier Like Me -

The Uppercut -

Out On Bail -

Ghetto Gospel - Feat Elton John. GREAT song, definately a must hear

Black Cotton -

Loyal To The Game -

Thugs Get Lonely Too -

N.*.*.G.A -

Who Do You Love? -

Crooked N*gga Too -

Don't You Trust Me -

Henneseey -

Thug 4 life -

Po N*gga Blues -

Hennessey -

Crooked N*gga Too (Raphael Saddig remix) -

Loyal To The Game (DJ Quick Version) -

My Personal Favorites

Benda's Got a Baby -

Keep Ya Head Up -

Young N**gaz -

Heaven Aint Hard 2 Find -

California Love -

White Man's World -

I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto -

Hellrazor -

Do For Love -

I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto -

How Do U Want It -

Unconditional Love -

Life Goes On -

I Ain't Mad At Cha -

Changes -

Dear Mama -

All About U -

Baby Don't Cry (keep ya head up) -

Until The End Of Time -

Late Night -

Thugz Mansion (Acoustic) -

My Block -

Thugz Mansion -

Better Dayz -

All About U -

Ghetto Gospel -

Biography

Tupac Amaru Shakur (June 16, 1971 ÃÆÃÂ¢ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃÂ¢Ã¢âÂ¬Ãâ September 13, 1996) was an influential, best-selling hip hop artist, who is widely considered to be among the greatest rappers. His aliases include 2Pac, Pac, and Makaveli. The aliases 'Tupac Amaru' and 'Shakur' mean Shining Serpent in Quechua and Thankful to God in Arabic, respectively. The name "Tupac" comes from TÃÆÃâÃâÃÂºpac Amaru, the last Inca royal heir in the captured Inca Empire in western South America (what is now Peru), who unsuccessfully resisted Spanish imperialism. Contrary to popular belief, Tupac Amaru was not Tupac's first birth name nor a name he chose for himself; his mother re-named him shortly after birth.

Most of Tupac's raps concerned growing up around violence and hardships in ghettos, racial inequality and sometimes his feud with fellow rappers in the United States.

Early life

Tupac Shakur was born Lesane Parish Crooks in the Bronx, New York City on June 16, 1971 to Afeni Shakur, a member of the Black Panthers. Serving jail time on bombing charges while pregnant with Tupac, she faced a sentence of up to three hundred years in prison. Acting as her own attorney, she beat the charges and was released one month before Tupac was born.

Shakur said, "I never knew where my father was or who my father was for sure." His godfather, Geronimo Pratt, was also a high-ranking Panther. His step-father, Mutulu, was a drug dealer who, according to Shakur, was rarely present to give him the discipline he needed.

Much of Tupac's upbringing revolved around the Black Panther philosophy. Impoverished during most of his childhood, Tupac, with his mother and half-sister, Sekyiwa (pronounced Setchua), moved between homeless shelters and cheap accommodations around New York City. As a result, he retained few friends and relied on writing poetry and diary entries to keep himself busy. At the age of 12, Shakur joined a Harlem theatre group and acted as Travis in Lorraine Hansberry's A Raisin in the Sun.

In 1984 Tupac's mother brought him and his sister to live in Baltimore, Maryland. The Shakurs lived on Greenmount Ave. in East Baltimore. There, Tupac was disliked because of his looks, name, and lack of trendy clothing. He attended Roland Park Middle School, then spent his freshman year at Paul Lawrence Dunbar High. For his sophomore year Tupac was accepted to the Baltimore School for the Arts. He enjoyed his classes there, studying theater, ballet, and other arts. Even at this young age, Shakur was outspoken on the subject of racial equality. His teachers remembered him as being a very gifted student. He was an avid reader, delving into books on eastern religions, and even entire encyclopedia sets. Hiding his love of literature from his peers, he gained the respect of his peers by acting like a tough guy. Shakur composed his first rap in Baltimore under the name "MC New York". The song was about gun control and was inspired by the fatal shooting of one of his close friends.

Two years later, a drug-addicted Afeni was having trouble finding work (her Panther past did not help, either). She uprooted the family again and brought Tupac and Sekyiwa to live with a family friend in Marin City, California. Tupac described this move from Baltimore and the arts school as "where I got off track". He showed contempt for law enforcement, being hassled occasionally for playing music loudly. In August of 1988, Shakur's stepfather Mutulu was sentenced to sixty years in prison for armed robbery after being on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list for several years.

Shakur soon moved in with a neighbor and started selling drugs on the street, but also made friends who helped spark his interest in rap music. One of these was Ray Luv, and with a mutual friend named DJ Dize (Dizz-ee), they started a rap group called Strictly Dope. Their recordings were later released in 2001 under the name Tupac Shakur: The Lost Tapes. Their neighborhood performances brought Tupac enough acclaim to land an audition with Shock G of Digital Underground.

In 1990, Shakur joined as a roadie and dancer for Digital Underground. His early lyrics were unremarkable, and he was viewed ambivalently for his tendency to act like a diva and for his occasionally violent personality. On a song for the Nothing But Trouble movie soundtrack, Same Song, Tupac was given his first opportunity to rap on a big-time record. In the song, Shock G leads into Tupac's verse by advising Shakur to "Go ahead and rock this."

Rise to fame

As a child, Tupac had dreamed of becoming a Shakespearean actor. Though he never achieved this, he did become a respected actor, drawing from his theatre roots. He starred in Juice in 1991 to critical acclaim, hailed by Rolling Stone 's Peter Travers as "The film's most magnetic figure." He went on to star in Poetic Justice, Above the Rim, Gridlock'd, Bullet, and Gang Related.

In 1991, Tupac had trouble shopping his solo-debut, 2Pacalypse Now. Eventually, Interscope records agreed to distribute the record; one can credit executives Ted Field and Tom Whally for giving Tupac the chance. Although produced with the help of his Digital Underground crew, the intent of the album was to showcase his individual talent. While Shakur claimed his album was aimed at the problems facing young black males, it was also filled with images of violence by and against police. 2Pacalypse Now quickly attracted public criticism, especially after a young man who killed a Texas Trooper claimed he was inspired by the album. Former Vice President Dan Quayle, as part of his zealous push for morals, publicly denounced the album as having "no place in our society".

The album did not do as well as Tupac had hoped on the charts, sparking no number one hits. In confidence, Shakur told Shock G that he wanted Shock to pick the beats. Shakur was a talented rapper; producing was not his forte.

His second CD, Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z..., was heavily produced by Shock G, and spurred two number one hits: the emotional Keep Ya Head Up and the playful I Get Around. Shock G would go on to produce the Shakur hits So Many Tears and Temptations.

Along with Shakur's rise to fame came a series of altercations with the law that further complicated his public image. Before he started his recording career, Tupac had no criminal record. In Oakland in October of 1991, Tupac was stopped by two officers for allegedly jaywalking. When he told the police "[bleep] y'all," he was choked, beaten, and had his head smashed on the pavement. He subsequently raised a ten million dollar lawsuit against the Oakland police department, which was eventually settled for $42,000.

In October 1993, Shakur came upon two off-duty police officers whom he perceived as harassing a black motorist on the side of the road in Atlanta. Shakur got into a fight with them and shot both officers (one in the leg, one in the buttocks). He faced serious charges until it was discovered that both officers were intoxicated during the incident and were using weapons stolen out of an evidence locker. The charges against Shakur were dismissed.

In 1994, he formed the group Thug Life with a few of his friends, including Big Syke, Macadoshis, his step-brother Mopreme, and Rated R. The group released their first album Thug Life: Volume 1 on Interscope in 1994 with moderate success. The group's lyrical strength undoubtedly lay primarily with Tupac, as the group has had little success after his death.

A troubled end

In December, Tupac Shakur was charged with sexually abusing a woman in his hotel room. According to his account, he met a female fan at a club, Nell's, who was described to him as wanting to "more than meet [him]". She allegedly gave him oral sex on the dance floor before Shakur took her back to his hotel room. The next night, she visited him before he was set to do a show and was giving him a massage in a hotel room. Some friends who were with him that night interrupted the couple, wanting to enjoy the woman's attentions themselves. Shakur claimed to have left the room disgusted and went to take a nap. The girl, disagreeing with his account, accused him of encouraging the three men, pulling her hair, and sodomy. On February 7, 1995, Shakur was sentenced to four and a half years in prison for "forcibly touching the buttocks", though he vehemently denied any wrongdoing.

The first shooting

Shortly before his verdict was announced, in an apparent robbery attempt outside a music studio in New York, Shakur was shot five times. Tupac recalled the circumstances in an interview shortly afterwards with Vibe. He was with his close friend Stretch, manager Freddie Moore, and one other friend on the night of November 30, 1994.

They arrived at a studio so Shakur could do some recordings for an acquaintance, Booker, whom he didn't quite trust. When they got to the studio, Tupac was suspicious of two black men in their thirties, both dressed in army fatigues, because neither of them seemed to acknowledge his presence. He noted that he was less wary of them than he should have been because he "had just finished smoking chronic". Shakur simply assumed they must be security for The Notorious B.I.G. (aka Biggie), whom he was still friends with at the time.

The two men, who Shakur described as looking like they were from New York, came at him with identical 9mm handguns, and forced him and his friends to the floor. Their aggression was focused almost exclusively on Tupac, although they did threaten to shoot Stretch as well. After he refused Tupac alone was shot a total of five times while he played dead on the ground and also robbed of thousands of dollars of gold jewelry he was wearing.

He was dragged into an elevator and taken upstairs to safety, where his then-friends Biggie, Puffy, Little Caesar, and others were waiting. Shakur described his friends as acting very strange, almost surprised at his being alive. His first words after realizing how severe his wounds were, having been shot in the head and testicles, were "Oh, sh*t. Roll me some weed."

He survived, and left the hospital a day after, against doctor's orders because he was feeling harassed by phone calls and the doctors. He showed up in court soon afterwards in a wheelchair to face his verdict in the sexual assault case.

Prison sentence

Shakur began serving his prison sentence later that February. Soon after, his multi-platinum album, Me Against the World, was released. Shakur has the distinction of being the only artist with an album at number one on the charts while serving a prison sentence. From jail, he married his long-time girlfriend, Keisha Morris. He also had time to pursue reading, delving into the works of NiccolÃÆÃâÃâÃÂ² Machiavelli, and even wrote a screenplay titled Live 2 Tell while incarcerated.

In October, after almost eight months in prison, Shakur was released on parole largely due to the help of Suge Knight, the head of Death Row Records. Suge posted a $1.4 million bail for Shakur, and in exchange Shakur was obliged to release three albums under Death Row. The singer was unrepentant and grew even more embittered against the authorities, which showed in his music.

Tupac, post-prison

Immediately after his release from prison, Shakur began work on his next album. In 1996, he released his fourth solo album, All Eyez on Me. It was the first double-disc of original material in hip-hop history. It went on to sell more than nine million copies and is considered by many to be among the best albums in the genre.

He continued his recordings, despite the impending troubles at Death Row as Dr. Dre left his post as house producer and Suge Knight became more involved in illegal activities.

Shakur's last album created while alive was The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory. Released two months after his death, this album was portentous and dark, and it predicted his own death in many songs. The entire album is said to have been created in only seven days, and one of the more popular songs off this album, "Hail Mary", was reportedly made in only thirty minutes. The album has sold over five million copies.

Acting career

At the time of his death, Tupac was also building on his acting career. John Singleton wrote the film Baby Boy with Shakur in mind for the leading role, but Shakur died before it was made. It was eventually filmed with Tyrese Gibson in his place and released in 2001, five years after Shakur's death. From 1991-1996, Shakur acted in seven films, including the critically acclaimed Juice, Poetic Justice with Janet Jackson, and Gridlock'd with Tim Roth. He had also been slated to star in the Hughes brothers' "Menace II Society" but was replaced by Larenz Tate after assaulting the directors.

Rivalries

During his life, Shakur had a number of rivals. Most famous of all is probably his rivalry with The Notorious B.I.G. and his cohorts at Bad Boy Records. The two were originally close friends when Biggie was still largely unknown. After the robbery, though, Shakur publicly accused Biggie, Puff Daddy, and Andre Harrell of having a hand in his attempted murder.

While Shakur was in jail, he was incensed by Biggie and Puffy's derogatory remarks about him in Vibe Magazine. After all his legal troubles, he claimed he "wanted to get out the [rap] game", but Biggie's remarks spurred him to come back.

As part of the ongoing feud between Shakur and his former friend Biggie, Shakur bragged about having slept with Biggie's estranged wife, Faith Evans, in "Hit 'Em Up", although Faith Evans denied the affair. Suge Knight vocalized the resentment between the Death Row and Bad Boy labels at an awards ceremony, saying "If anyone wants to come to a record company where they don't want the executive producer dancing, singing all up in the videos come to Death Row."

In addition to his enemies at Bad Boy Records, Shakur suspected his former friend Stretch (real name Randy Walker) of being involved in the robbery. On November 30, 1995, exactly one year after the shooting of Shakur in New York, Walker was gunned down in Queens, New York.

Shakur also had some disputes with Dr. Dre, who was, for a while, the in-house producer for Death Row. He claimed that Dre did nothing at Death Row and was taking credit for other people's work. Shakur got angry when Dre refused to show up and testify in defense of his friend, Snoop Doggy Dogg, in a murder trial. In addition, Shakur made hints in songs that he thought Dre was a homosexual, and Suge Knight concurred in the Thug Immortal documentary.

Shakur disliked LL Cool J, whom he thought was a poser and had had an album produced by Puff Daddy. There was also some animosity between Tupac and others. Nas and Jay-Z were both attacked in the 7 Day Theory album. Shakur also mocked Mobb Deep for snubbing him at a concert and commented on the illness that one member suffered from in the controversial track Hit 'Em Up, remarking, "Don't one of you n*ggas got sickle cell or something?". After Shakur's death, Mobb Deep changed tack and apparently showed respect for him.

While filming Poetic Justice with Janet Jackson, Tupac created quite a stir when he refused to take an AIDS test as a prerequisite for a love scene with Jackson. Shakur stated that other men had love scenes with Jackson on stage before without taking a test, and he didn't feel it necessary. He also stated that if they were going to have sex in the scene he would have taken the test. It is unknown whether she took offence but she stopped talking to him immediately after the filming was completed. In a later interview, Shakur said that he had met Jackson during an immature time of his life, and hoped that he could one day make amends with her.

2Pac Makaveli also frequently insulted popular New York rapper Jay Z, Chino XL, Lil Kim, Junior Mafia and other artists of Bad Boy Records, of which the Notorious B.I.G. was member.

The second shooting

Shakur was fatally shot in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada on September 7, 1996 after attending the boxing match between Mike Tyson and Bruce Seldon. He died in the University Medical Center hospital six days later from the four gunshot wounds.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Compton police, although they never officially solved the case, concluded that Shakur was shot by Southside Crips after the Tyson fight. Hours before the shooting, Tupac had been involved in a fight between the Death Row entourage, mostly made up of Bloods and a Southside Crip by the name of Orlando Anderson near the lobby of the MGM Hotel after the Tyson-Seldon fight. Shakur started the fight when he noticed 21-year-old "Baby Lane" Anderson, who had beaten up one of his bodyguards in a shopping mall a few weeks earlier, lingering nearby. Anderson and others were interviewed by police later in connection with the murder, though no suspects were ever publicly named.

Shakur and the crew at Death Row generally depended on members of the Bloods gang for security, while Biggie and the Bad Boy Crew depended on Crips members for security when visiting California. An investigation by the Las Vegas Times, while not naming its gang-member sources, stated that Biggie (who was also in town for the fight) offered to pay the Crips in exchange for Shakur's death. It was noted by the Compton Gang Unit that the Crips were bragging about the killing soon after returning to Compton. Compton Police were disappointed with the lack of initiative showed by Las Vegas police in pursuing the killing.

After the fight with Anderson, Tupac left the MGM Hotel, went to the hotel with his fiance, Kadida Jones. Then, he met up with Suge to go to Death Row's Club 662 in Las Vegas. The two drove together in Suge's BMW sedan, part of a larger convoy of cars including some of Shakur's friends, the Outlawz, and bodyguards. Tupac was not wearing a bulletproof vest on that fateful night, even though Death Row had provided him with one. At 11:10 P.M., Suge's car stopped at an intersection on East Flamengo Road. A white Cadillac was seen pulling up to the passenger side of the car, and firing thirteen rounds into the car as Tupac attempted to climb to safety in the back seat. Tupac was hit four times, twice in the chest, and in his arm and thigh, while Suge was grazed in the head.

Shakur's close childhood friend -- and a member of the Outlawz -- Yafeu "Kadafi" Fula, was in the convoy when the shooting happened and told police he might be able to identify the assailants. He, too, was killed shortly thereafter in New Jersey. Two teenagers took plea bargains and are serving time for Fula's murder.

His future plans

Shakur indicated after getting out of jail that he had future plans, including mostly getting out of the rap scene by releasing high-quality, deep albums only once every five years or so. Pac also desired to give back more to the community, suggesting a Little League to encourage young black kids to keep on the right path. He ran an earlier project called "The Underground Railroad" that aimed to keep youths off drugs by getting them involved in music. Though he did not live to realize these dreams, his mother Afeni has opened the Tupac Amaru Shakur Center for the Arts in the month of June in 2005, to carry on his work, by helping youths accomplish their goals. Afeni Shakur has also indicated in several interviews that the final Album of original Music by Tupac Shakur(AB) will be released in 2006.

It is also rumored that Tupac was going to start his own record label "Euphanasia", and was in fact listed as an employee of this company at his time of death.

What Are The Rumors About Tupac Still Being Alive??

It is more than just a cracked up conspiracy. Although reality would tell us that he is dead, there are many pieces missing from the puzzle. Here is the 7 day Theory Put Together by Myself.

Here is my story:

I was cruisin around town one day, listening to Tupac's song 'Hail Mary', and instead of changing the song in the middle of it, i decided to actually listen to the whole thing. At the very end of the song, as it's fading out, 2pac says:

Makaveli the Don, Solo, Killuminati, The 7 Days

The "7 day"s is barely audible, but yet, you can still hear it. I was left there to think, "What the heck is that", so I investigated. 7 Day Theory is more than a coincidence, it was an incredible theory to make people believe 2pac really died. Here it goes:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Sautrday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shootin gnad was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13,1996

The album The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory is one of the main things that support the conspiracy theories surrounding 2PacÃÆÃÂ¢ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¾ÃÂ¢s death.

2Pac recorded the album under the name Makaveli... Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac mindlessly studied Machiavelli's writings while in jail.

The album cover depicts 2Pac crucified on a cross like Jesus Christ. We all know what happened after the crucifixionÃÆÃÂ¢ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃâÃÂ¦ there was a resurrection.

Instead of Suge Knight, the executive producer on the album is listed as "Simon." Simon was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge Knight (CEO of Death Row records and Executive Producer of All Eyez On Me) be Simon?

There are many instances of the number seven:

2Pac was shot on September 7th.

After the shooting, 2Pac survived for seven days.

2Pac's vehicle was shot 12 times; 5 of those bullets hit 2Pac. That leaves seven bullets.

2Pac's recorded time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3).

A voice on the album says, "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time."

2Pac's first release on Suge Knight's Death Row label, All Eyez On Me, was released on February 13, 1996 - exactly seven months before his death.

Other reasons that have nothing to do with the album are:

Friday the 13th (the day 2Pac died) is widely regarded as a superstitious day.

2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest, but for some reason he didn't wear one the night of September 7. Why?

The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta. Since when is there no procession, or anything, for a star of his magnitude?

2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He claims his head was "grazed" by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get hit all those times and not Suge? And why is there no medical documents to prove Suge's injury?

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. Yet the white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found or pursued by helicopter or squad car. It's hard to believe that in a city full of casinos on one of the biggest fight nights of the year, there wouldn't be cops out in full force ready for any situation that went down. Why didn't the Las Vegas Police Department respond immediately to the public shooting of a celebrity?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.

In the song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyez On Me, 2Pac says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, traumatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted."

The video "I Ain't Mad At Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I Ain't Mad At Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyez On Me. The video shows 2Pac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend; very similar to the real situation.

2Pac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli."

In the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and 2Pac, many say the reason why "2Pac" never looks at the camera is because itÃÆÃÂ¢ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¾ÃÂ¢s a look-alike. Also the video shows a car, in fact the exact same model car as the car 2Pac got shot inÃÆÃÂ¢ÃÂ¢Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃâÃÂ¦ and the car has bullet holes in it, EXACTLY where the real bullet holes are. Also in this video, the 'tupac' that plays it is wearing a shoe brand that wasn't released until 1997. How could this possibly be since tupac died in 1996.

If you rearrange the letters in the album title Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7 Day Theory You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Try it for yourself.

In the CD booklet of the R U Still Down album, the following is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2Pac." This album was released more than a year after 2Pac's death.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Made [racist term]z" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "F*ck 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a muthaf*ckin' made [racist term] I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.

In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...." Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur". The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus?

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times.

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him.

in the first three seconds of The 7 Day Theory, the words "Suge shot me" are spoken very softly. Check it out for yourself, but that certainly is suspicious and it must mean something. Listen to it for yourself, copy this into where you type websites..

http://members.aol.com/subseven2/sugeshot.wav

on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

Remember how Tupac spelled Machiavelli as Makaveli? Well, he is probably spelling Calumniate as Killuminati. Calumniate means to make false or slanderous statements.

Movies Tupac Has Been In:

A Different World (1991) - Series

Above The Rim (1994) -

Biggie And Tupac (2002) -

Boyz 'N The Hood-

Baby Boy -

Poetic Justice (1993) -

Bullet (1996)

Dangerous Ground -

Gang Related -

Gridlock'd -

Juice (1992)

Thug Immortal: The Tupac Shakur Story (1997) -

Tupac: Ressurection (2003) -

Photos

Mercifull · November 2, 2006

Fair enough having a topic about Tupac but keep the whole "he's alive" conspiracy out of it. Hes dead! Get over it.

How2PK · November 2, 2006

Ooh, a topic by the book! :P Love how you worked everything out. And I'll edit in some better reply tomorrow. Just wanted to say good work for now! :)

Ragen · November 2, 2006

That was a good read. I never knew that he was dead :oops:

Fudge · November 3, 2006

Fair enough having a topic about Tupac but keep the whole "he's alive" conspiracy out of it. Hes dead! Get over it.

Get over it? It's like one of the main reasons why so many people listen to him mate... I'm a huge fan myself and I believe he's dead. All the suspicisions about his death are extremely interesting, no one is forcing you to believe them... just stay off the topic. :shame:

Anyway, very nice topic mate, my favourite Tupac songs at the moment are....

Krazy/Weed got me Crazy (not sure on proper name..)

Unconditional Love

Life Goes On

Nothing to Lose

Changes

timmay929 · November 3, 2006

Good stuff... I still don't think changes is his best song. Don't get me wrong, Changes is a VERY good song, but I think Hit Em Up is better.

And what part of Thug Love does Bizzy say "He's still alive". As soon as I read that I listened to it and couldn't find it, do you know like what part or how far into the song?

woopidoo2 · November 3, 2006

Dude you must be a big fan :P

I dont like rap at all. But I do like Tupacs rap, because of the good lyrics

and the whole beat in the songs.

Personally I like Changes most, togheter with California love.

KnightLite · November 3, 2006

Good stuff... I still don't think changes is his best song. Don't get me wrong, Changes is a VERY good song, but I think Hit Em Up is better.

And what part of Thug Love does Bizzy say "He's still alive". As soon as I read that I listened to it and couldn't find it, do you know like what part or how far into the song?

It's right before Tupac says "What's poppin n*gga", at 1:17 into the song. It's VERY difficult to hear, you have to turn the volume up as loud as you can, but it's audible

Mercifull · November 3, 2006

Here is a pic of some research i did with the Bible about Tupac still being alive! I couldnt belive it, its HAS to be true!!!!

Actually no, it just goes to show that not only Bible code are BS but the conspiracy that he's still alive is too. Its all conincidences and anecdotal

timmay929 · November 3, 2006

Good stuff... I still don't think changes is his best song. Don't get me wrong, Changes is a VERY good song, but I think Hit Em Up is better.

And what part of Thug Love does Bizzy say "He's still alive". As soon as I read that I listened to it and couldn't find it, do you know like what part or how far into the song?

It's right before Tupac says "What's poppin n*gga", at 1:17 into the song. It's VERY difficult to hear, you have to turn the volume up as loud as you can, but it's audible

Yea, I heard it. He kinda like mumbles it. I would have never picked that up if you wouldn't have said it.

KnightLite · November 4, 2006

Here is a pic of some research i did with the Bible about Tupac still being alive! I couldnt belive it, its HAS to be true!!!!

Actually no, it just goes to show that not only Bible code are BS but the conspiracy that he's still alive is too. Its all conincidences and anecdotal

This is why I don't like you. Nobody is forcing you to believe this. It's fine that you dont' believe it. This is the official Tupac thread, and the 7 day theory is a HUGE part of Tupac. If you don't like it, go pout in a corner you over-opinionated smeghead

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