new system

[Guest XplsvBam]

making a system for my dad, is everything i have compatible? And I really like this motherboard but can i get a cheaper one to run these parts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Motherboard- ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $133.99

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131540

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Video Card - eVGA 256-A8-N313-LX GeForce FX5500 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $55.99

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130197

 

 

 

RAM - CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail $112.99

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820145440

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2.0GHz Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BPBOX - Retail $68.50

 

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103535

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total $371.47

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All these parts have excellent reviews. I have the keyboards hard drives monitors and such, only stuff listed is the stuff we need. Also I'm not sure the video card and motherboard i picked out work together, avg is pretty foriegn to me, i've only had experience with pci.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Will this system run AOE3 well?

[Kwisatz]

You can get an equivalent motherboard for that same price. Why, I just ordered a 939-pin SLI-capable 4xSATAII one the other day for 80 bucks.

[blade995]

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

[Boogityboo04]

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, don't get AGP, find a PCI-E card. You also shouldn't get an SLI board because you don't have two cards and the one you have is pretty low end anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would recommend a Core 2 Duo and a different motherboard

[Guest XplsvBam]

 

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, don't get AGP, find a PCI-E card. You also shouldn't get an SLI board because you don't have two cards and the one you have is pretty low end anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would recommend a Core 2 Duo and a different motherboard

am i looking at the same price?

[blade995]

 

 

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, don't get AGP, find a PCI-E card. You also shouldn't get an SLI board because you don't have two cards and the one you have is pretty low end anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would recommend a Core 2 Duo and a different motherboard

am i looking at the same price?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A core 2 duo would raise the price a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The socket AM2 I am suggesting to upgrade to would be the same price (maybe a little more expensive) and better preformance.

[Kwisatz]

 

 

 

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, don't get AGP, find a PCI-E card. You also shouldn't get an SLI board because you don't have two cards and the one you have is pretty low end anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would recommend a Core 2 Duo and a different motherboard

am i looking at the same price?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A core 2 duo would raise the price a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The socket AM2 I am suggesting to upgrade to would be the same price (maybe a little more expensive) and better preformance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SLI isn't unnecessary. SLI boards are virtually the same price, and when they are more expensive it's $10 at most. For that kind of upgrade path you'd have to be stupid not to spend just that bit more.

[Guest XplsvBam]

 

 

 

 

You could get a motherboard a lot cheaper. SLI is unnecessary and it makes the motherboard cost more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graphics card you picked out is an AGP interface and the motherboard is PCI-E.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socket 939 is pretty much dead, I would go for Socket AM2 and it's about the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, don't get AGP, find a PCI-E card. You also shouldn't get an SLI board because you don't have two cards and the one you have is pretty low end anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would recommend a Core 2 Duo and a different motherboard

am i looking at the same price?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A core 2 duo would raise the price a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The socket AM2 I am suggesting to upgrade to would be the same price (maybe a little more expensive) and better preformance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SLI isn't unnecessary. SLI boards are virtually the same price, and when they are more expensive it's $10 at most. For that kind of upgrade path you'd have to be stupid not to spend just that bit more.

thats all fine and dandy, i just want a good gaming motherboard and cpu for games like F.E.A.R and guild wars. fear is a little bit of a dream so if i need to spend alot more then $400 i dont need to play fear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So does everyone agree that i shouldn't get socket set 939 for gaming??

[Guest XplsvBam]

well if that question is too hard can someone tell me why i come back to this forum when the responses are [cabbage]ty and take forever? does anyone know of a good computer forum?

[Cruiser]

well if that question is too hard can someone tell me why i come back to this forum when the responses are [cabbage] and take forever? does anyone know of a good computer forum?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you think the responses are crap, leave. This is also a forum, not a 24/7 live tech support line.

[zonda]

well if that question is too hard can someone tell me why i come back to this forum when the responses are [cabbage] and take forever? does anyone know of a good computer forum?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good idea, insult the people your asking help from. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Like cruiser said, this is a forum, and in addition to that it isn't like we are being paid to sit around and answers people questions or solve their problems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The card you picked out will run FEAR and Guild wars just fine, though it is AGP meaning it won't be as good as if you had bought a PCI-E card - doing that would require a different motherboard though. Basically, what you put together is what people would have put together a year or so ago, which is fine, it will still run todays games just fine but don't expect to be playing next years games on high, or medium at that.

[JoeDaStudd]

Try a Asus M2N-E instead of that motherboard (its cheaper, only $50 for OEM, its AM2 and it has the nForce570 Chip set)

 

 

 

AMD Sempron 64 3600+ or AMD Athlon 64 3800+ for your CPU (both are AM2 socket althought the Athlon 3800+ costs more)

 

 

 

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 667 (Better then DDR and costs less

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It totals to less the what you had before, plus its AM2 socket and its more future proof.

 

 

 

All the parts I found on NewEgg.com, so they should be easy for you to find

[Guest XplsvBam]

Try a Asus M2N-E instead of that motherboard (its cheaper, only $50 for OEM, its AM2 and it has the nForce570 Chip set)

 

 

 

AMD Sempron 64 3600+ or AMD Athlon 64 3800+ for your CPU (both are AM2 socket althought the Athlon 3800+ costs more)

 

 

 

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 667 (Better then DDR and costs less

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It totals to less the what you had before, plus its AM2 socket and its more future proof.

 

 

 

All the parts I found on NewEgg.com, so they should be easy for you to find

That looks like a really good system for what I'm going to use it for. Is the nForce570 Chip set the video card? And if I were to get a better video card what would I get to match this mobo and everything.

[Mr_Putter]

What he basically recommended isn't bad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He said AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800$148.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a bad idea. Not the greatest processor in the world, but you're in a more modern socket, AM2. It really depends on what you're needs are. I couldn't possibly recommend Socket 939 if you're planning to upgrade this computer at all. But if you just want a good gaming computer at the current time, and aren't looking to the future, perhaps someone else could recommend a good Socket 939 CPU (I'm not really used to AMD, I prefer Intel, but C2d is too expensive in your case).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This motherboard doesn't look bad. Or you can look through other Am2 motherboards on newegg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DFI INFINITY NF ULTRAII-M2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail$89.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ram: This stuff doesn't look bad. Obviously with a low budget you're looking for value priced memory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OCZ Value Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail$109.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically what I've done so far is gotten a cheaper motherboard, since you don't need SLI capability and more expensive processor (both faster and more future proof than your original one).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But unfortunately, when it comes to graphics, you just don't have enough power. Other than the obvious fact that its AGP and won't work with your computer, it wouldn't run anything new anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Video card: I would suggest a eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail$129.99 Obviously its not top of the line, but it offers tremendous bang-for-your-buck. It's midranged, but should run pretty much anything out there, even stuff like Oblivion. If you want to go a bit more pricey, with more advanced features but less bang for the buck, I'd suggest a eVGA GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail$185.99. Out of the two, I'd say the 7600GT is the one for you, though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That comes to $478.96. While it's 100 bucks more than the one you had, the graphics performance is not even in the same league. Whereas (assuming the 5500 DID work in your motherboard, which it doesn't) you wouldn't be able to play practically anything with a 5500, you could probably play anything, with a 7600GT, even if you have to turn down the eye candy on stuff like Oblvion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure this isn't bad, but have you though about all the other parts of a PC? Monitor, hard drive, optical drive(s), sound card (or just use onboard, I didn't really check what was on the one I posted and theres no time cuz I gotta go), Power supply, case etc. That stuff really adds up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And also, try checking another forum. Just google something for hardware, and try that. You'd probably get a better result.

[Kinslayer777]

Anandtech has a nice forum of helpful people for things like this. They helped me with my first build + the main forum has a recentish budget guide. But, be nice to them :s they're not payed either :)

[Guest XplsvBam]

What he basically recommended isn't bad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He said AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800$148.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a bad idea. Not the greatest processor in the world, but you're in a more modern socket, AM2. It really depends on what you're needs are. I couldn't possibly recommend Socket 939 if you're planning to upgrade this computer at all. But if you just want a good gaming computer at the current time, and aren't looking to the future, perhaps someone else could recommend a good Socket 939 CPU (I'm not really used to AMD, I prefer Intel, but C2d is too expensive in your case).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This motherboard doesn't look bad. Or you can look through other Am2 motherboards on newegg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DFI INFINITY NF ULTRAII-M2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail$89.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ram: This stuff doesn't look bad. Obviously with a low budget you're looking for value priced memory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OCZ Value Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail$109.99

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically what I've done so far is gotten a cheaper motherboard, since you don't need SLI capability and more expensive processor (both faster and more future proof than your original one).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But unfortunately, when it comes to graphics, you just don't have enough power. Other than the obvious fact that its AGP and won't work with your computer, it wouldn't run anything new anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Video card: I would suggest a eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail$129.99 Obviously its not top of the line, but it offers tremendous bang-for-your-buck. It's midranged, but should run pretty much anything out there, even stuff like Oblivion. If you want to go a bit more pricey, with more advanced features but less bang for the buck, I'd suggest a eVGA GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail$185.99. Out of the two, I'd say the 7600GT is the one for you, though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That comes to $478.96. While it's 100 bucks more than the one you had, the graphics performance is not even in the same league. Whereas (assuming the 5500 DID work in your motherboard, which it doesn't) you wouldn't be able to play practically anything with a 5500, you could probably play anything, with a 7600GT, even if you have to turn down the eye candy on stuff like Oblvion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure this isn't bad, but have you though about all the other parts of a PC? Monitor, hard drive, optical drive(s), sound card (or just use onboard, I didn't really check what was on the one I posted and theres no time cuz I gotta go), Power supply, case etc. That stuff really adds up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And also, try checking another forum. Just google something for hardware, and try that. You'd probably get a better result.

Thanks this is exactly the answer I was waiting for, maybe I should have just been more patient.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already have everything else I need but if I don't ill be able to pick that other stuff up pretty easy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks.

[Mr_Putter]

No problem. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just remember though, I spent an hour on this, and therefore this may not be the best. I strongly recommend asking about on a hardware forum though, in particular regarding the motherboard. There are so many motherboard's out there for AM2, that is hard to really decide which is the right one. I think the one I posted will do just fine, but do some research just to make sure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And have fun : .