Imagine yourself, just a regular guy, regular day. Same sh*t different day right? Well you come home from work, and you find you wife and kids dead on the floor. You immidiatley drop to your knees, your heart in agony as your life just crumbled apart in front of you. The next day you get a visit from the detective assigned to the case, and guess what, your the prime suspect. When all the evidence points to you, because you have had some troubles with your wife and a history of alcohol abuse, your sentanced to life in prison. You have just been f*cked by the US Justice system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't played runescape in about a year now and i know for certain reasons unwillingly named... that i will not return. I was just on the forums doing a little bit of browsing when I came upon a few topics with titles like "Jagex Banning System Bogus" "Jagex Screwed Me" "OMFG Banned Because my Username is Iloveyoulongtime" etc. etc. When suddenly i started thinking about a question i was asked once. Now im not trying to say that Runescape, which is indeed not real (If you didnt know that somebody stopped paying the bill on your reality check, i know im hilarious) can be compared to the US Justice system. ANYWAYS LETS GET TO THE POINT! Somebody asked me a very intriguing question, "Would you rather have 10 guilty men go free, than one innocent man go to jail for life?" Now at first i was sure i would want the innocent man to go to jail than have 10 crazy murders out there after me or my kids (when i have them, im 15.) But after i gave it some thought, i started to take a different point of view... i took the point of view of that innocent man that was sent to jail for life. All of sudden i was filled with a mysterious passion, the kind you get when you feel you have been personally wronged, that kind of personal vendetta. My analogy is a little severe, just imagine that someone scammed someone and stole something from them, and you were banned for it. There are many different ways to compare the two, and this is just as much an argument against the US justic system as it is Jagex's. At the risk of boring the hell out of people that dont care, im going to stop it here. Tell my what you think about my revelation of sorts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems a little Off-topicish to me, with the word "Runescape" thrown in randomly to keep it on this forum, but I guess I see what you're getting at.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Currently I'm not fully dedicated to either side of the issue- having one innocent person go to jail for life is bad, but having ten murderers go free can't exactly be considered a great alternative. If the ten guys couldn't be convicted later I'd probably go with the one innocent man in jail for life, cut my losses. But that's just who I am- a soulless person who only looks at the numbers. Meh, guna need a revelation soon :lol: .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me clarify a little here. I want you to imagine this... let 10 scammers and cheaters go unbanned, or let one hard honest playing ...player get banned. Mostly though i mean with todays technology how hard could it be to make the system error proof? I mean i know much of it still relys on humans, but there has to be something Jagex can do to lower the percentages of innocent players banned. Its a wierd analogy but i tried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S.-If you take anything away from this at all, take away that little revelation that i had, dont be a sheep to the shepherd (US govn.) and always look at both points of view.

tip.it's forum justice has jaded me.

Seems a little Off-topicish to me, with the word "Runescape" thrown in randomly to keep it on this forum, but I guess I see what you're getting at.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Currently I'm not fully dedicated to either side of the issue- having one innocent person go to jail for life is bad, but having ten murderers go free can't exactly be considered a great alternative. If the ten guys couldn't be convicted later I'd probably go with the one innocent man in jail for life, cut my losses. But that's just who I am- a soulless person who only looks at the numbers. Meh, guna need a revelation soon :lol: .

Id rather have the cheaters go free, cuz they dont bother me any.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But alas, in jagex's eyes they always end up banning more than just the cheaters, but the ones who were friends with the cheaters, and ones who once walked by the cheater and said "you stupid cheater" (I know, a severe over exageration, but oh well)

i would rather have the criminals or cheaters go free then have the one innocent person be banned or put in jail. I personally would rather not ruin a persons life just to prevent 10 criminals from walking out scotch free,because theirs a chance that they might not do it again

What? You're comparing a life sentence in prison with a ban from a bunch of pixels?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's federal justice and then there's computergames. When you start comparing the two, well, then I feel you need to take a break from RS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's scary that you could get innocently banned, I agree. But then again, Jagex could just go broke overnight and your account would be lost all the same. Best not to get too emotionally attached to it, methinks.

What? You're comparing a life sentence in prison with a ban from a bunch of pixels?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's nothing wrong with him comparing these two, in my opinion. It's more like a question about moral and philosophy. We keep calling Runescape pixels and pixels, when we complain about losing this and that in-game, so I don't see any need to go further into that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would go free ten guilty people for the sake of the innocent one. One of the most hardest things to go through is when someone takes for granted that you are lying (or guilty in this case), when in reality you're telling the truth (or innocent). It makes it even harder when you can't convince them that you are telling the truth or can prove your innocence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And with the Jagex banning innocent people part, I'm sure a lot of people get banned correctly, but they aren't willing to admit that they've broken a rule. Thus they post things on forums blaming this and that.

What? You're comparing a life sentence in prison with a ban from a bunch of pixels?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's federal justice and then there's computergames. When you start comparing the two, well, then I feel you need to take a break from RS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's scary that you could get innocently banned, I agree. But then again, Jagex could just go broke overnight and your account would be lost all the same. Best not to get too emotionally attached to it, methinks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all sir... if you had actually read the whole thing carefully you would have seen that;

 

 

 

1) I have not played runescape in a year, and im not going back. So no break needed! But thanks for your concern.

 

 

 

2) One of the first things i posted in my argument was, "Now im not trying to say that Runescape, which is indeed not real, (If you didnt know that somebody stopped paying the bill on your reality check, i know im hilarious) can be compared to the US Justice system."

 

 

 

So i guess you just misread? I know its a severe analogy and never in my argument did i say that Runescape could possibly be as important as a life sentance in jail or anything real. No hard feelings, but you seem a bit one sided, you should have taken my advice on the bottom :

 

What? You're comparing a life sentence in prison with a ban from a bunch of pixels?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's federal justice and then there's computergames. When you start comparing the two, well, then I feel you need to take a break from RS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's scary that you could get innocently banned, I agree. But then again, Jagex could just go broke overnight and your account would be lost all the same. Best not to get too emotionally attached to it, methinks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all sir... if you had actually read the whole thing carefully you would have seen that;

 

 

 

1) I have not played runescape in a year, and im not going back. So no break needed! But thanks for your concern.

 

 

 

2) One of the first things i posted in my argument was, "Now im not trying to say that Runescape, which is indeed not real, (If you didnt know that somebody stopped paying the bill on your reality check, i know im hilarious) can be compared to the US Justice system."

 

 

 

So i guess you just misread? I know its a severe analogy and never in my argument did i say that Runescape could possibly be as important as a life sentance in jail or anything real. No hard feelings, but you seem a bit one sided, you should have taken my advice on the bottom :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't misread. I did read it until the end, I make a point of reading more than the first three lines of a post :D. Your question (a "philosophical" one) is, ban more and have some innocents punished, or ban less and have more 'criminal behaviour'. What bothers me, is that in the original question you're talking about lives (murder; life sentence). In RS, it's about something as silly as an account. That makes the 'dilemma' a bit obsolete in my mind. Less poignant, relevant, there's a word for this but I've forgotten it :wall:. But maybe I'm just not involved enough or something. So I'll just shut up now and let the rest of Tip.It merrily answer your dilemma...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And it's madam, by the way, not sir :-)

What? You're comparing a life sentence in prison with a ban from a bunch of pixels?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when we complain about losing this and that in-game, so I don't see any need to go further into that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you mean we?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, I'd rather have MY account banned rather than let 10 cheaters go free. I'm not attached to a bunch of fake items that don't benefit me irl in any way.