Satenza Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I'm sure he probably didn't mean it anyway. However it could be a philosophical view of human nature. Not a very pleasent one but one some philiosophers would partly agree with. Yeah, anthropological pessimism. The belief that humans are by nature evil beings. But not moronic or irresponsible :P Well, I would say i am a beleiver that human nature is not 'good' in a way. Hobbes' 'Search For Felicity' is what i beleive to be part of human nature. Which basically means humans are never satisfied and are always looking for more. Which is not a bad thing, if we go about getting more in a good way. Like some of us do, but many do not. This can range from wanting a new television to wanting complete power of a country and the extermination of all Jews. It spans depending to the character we are i guess. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I'm sure he probably didn't mean it anyway. However it could be a philosophical view of human nature. Not a very pleasent one but one some philiosophers would partly agree with. Yeah, anthropological pessimism. The belief that humans are by nature evil beings. But not moronic or irresponsible :P Well, I would say i am a beleiver that human nature is not 'good' in a way. Hobbes' 'Search For Felicity' is what i beleive to be part of human nature. Which basically means humans are never satisfied and are always looking for more. Which is not a bad thing, if we go about getting more in a good way. Like some of us do, but many do not. This can range from wanting a new television to wanting complete power of a country and the extermination of all Jews. It spans depending to the character we are i guess. So I suppose you could say being content with life is a rarity. Everyone just wants more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese666me Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 mine is: Job is good, 2 good 2 do it dont do tomorrow wut others can do 4 u today dont sit down 2 wait 4 wut u want 2 happen, u will eventually get fat lol jk :mrgreen: heres real one: if u r just there waiting 4 sumthing 2 happen it wont, u gotta make sumthing 2 make it happen. If u believe in sumthin, keep it lyk that, u wont get anything changing ur mind constantly lazy people will do things they dont like twice, bcuz they dont want to do it the rite way (well im lazy, i cant change that) Why even try with that idiot? Honestly, there is no point whatsoever. I'd get better replies if I argued with a tree stump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 mine is: Job is good, 2 good 2 do it dont do tomorrow wut others can do 4 u today dont sit down 2 wait 4 wut u want 2 happen, u will eventually get fat lol jk :mrgreen: heres real one: if u r just there waiting 4 sumthing 2 happen it wont, u gotta make sumthing 2 make it happen. If u believe in sumthin, keep it lyk that, u wont get anything changing ur mind constantly lazy people will do things they dont like twice, bcuz they dont want to do it the rite way (well im lazy, i cant change that) I think my eyes are bleeding. :uhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 mine is: Job is good, 2 good 2 do it dont do tomorrow wut others can do 4 u today dont sit down 2 wait 4 wut u want 2 happen, u will eventually get fat lol jk :mrgreen: heres real one: if u r just there waiting 4 sumthing 2 happen it wont, u gotta make sumthing 2 make it happen. If u believe in sumthin, keep it lyk that, u wont get anything changing ur mind constantly lazy people will do things they dont like twice, bcuz they dont want to do it the rite way (well im lazy, i cant change that) Sounds like msn names :P So I suppose you could say being content with life is a rarity. Everyone just wants more. Yes, but the degree of the wanting is based on the individual With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Philosophy can't be proven correct thats the point. People are irresponsibles morons. <--- I've yet to be proven wrong. I'm sure he probably didn't mean it anyway. However it could be a philosophical view of human nature. Not a very pleasent one but one some philiosophers would partly agree with. So his philosophy, which is based on proof, is not a philosophy because the point of philosophy is that it can't be proven according to you, yet it is a philosophical view of human nature? --- I'm an ancient ethicist and an absolutist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsessive_Passion Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hard work through patience and perserverance is the key to success in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diminished2b Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Keep It Simple, Stupid! (KISS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I am both an Existentialist and an Materialist. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I am both an Existentialist and an Materialist. I suppose after reading a bit about existentialism, I am an existentialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Philosophy can't be proven correct thats the point. People are irresponsibles morons. <--- I've yet to be proven wrong. I'm sure he probably didn't mean it anyway. However it could be a philosophical view of human nature. Not a very pleasent one but one some philiosophers would partly agree with. So his philosophy, which is based on proof, is not a philosophy because the point of philosophy is that it can't be proven according to you, yet it is a philosophical view of human nature? Nothing can be proven, wether or not it is based on so called proof is irelevant, as it depends on him as an individual in beleiving if that is true. An example would be chritianity, some people take the bible to be proof which would be like saying 'I beleive God to be true <--- The Bible says so, and i have yet to be proven wrong'. See, the proof is based on the individual, which isn't proof at all to many. Much like Grim_Jokes idea of proof, yet i am sure he is joking. It's not as if he has proven it is correct, he has attempted too, and therefore it is a philosophical point. If his point was proven true to everybody it would cease to be a philosophical idea. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeresque Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 my philosophy is to live life to its fullest because all thats left is the experiences when you die...also to follow your dreams and don't let anyone tell you what to do in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash6110 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 1. Everyone deserves respect 2. Sh!t happens, get over it 3. People with disabilities can do great things too 4. Live life to the fullest, just in case there is nothing afterwards 5. If you do something give it a 110% effort 6. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth oh wait 7. Always stick by your friends no matter what http://www.draynor.net/code/bar/Noobin\Please join my very new up and coming forumshttp://s3.freepowerboards.com/runeboards Feel free to AIM or MSNM me anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I try to be nice to people... unless they're annoying/horrible/insensitive. I also love this saying- You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends. I like it because I see absolutely no reason to respect your family unless they respect you - as far as I'm concerned it's a two way thing. I don't automatically respect someone just because - well, just because they exist. If you're gonna do something - do your best. Never, ever give up. I'm not saying you can make it just because you try - but you'll feel so happy you tried, even if you failed. Shoot for the moon - even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. Always loved that quote. Don't do what someone else tells you just because they tell you to - but be sensitive with what you do Help the people who need help. Me and some friends did something weird a few weeks ago... and I realised the importance of what we jokily called 'Inner Peace'. With the thought of those friends in my head I try to keep my cool and just be kind, not aggressive and not put people down or make them feel small. It's pretty hard as I've always had a terrible temper... but I'm trying and I think I'm getting somewhere. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Broaden the mind, be able to look back on whatever you do and say "yeah, i enjoyed that, it was worth it". Have fun, and enjoy life. Gain as much knowledge as reasonably possible, bring humour and wisdom to wherever you go, make the most of what you've got. Etc. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 A lot I guess my point between the lines is that Grim_Jokes did not present a philosophical view of human nature, but instead, a testable a verifiable statement about the makeup of mankind. Intelligence can in fact be tested, and one's responsibility in how they act is also testable - it would fall into a social science of some form. To classify the statement, "all humans are morons and are irresponsible" as a philosophy is an absolute disgrace towards an otherwise respectable school of thought. Grim_Jokes statement was nothing but arrogance, and for you to defend it as a philosophical view on human nature is painfully damaging to philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I actually said it could be a philosophical view on human nature. Which it is, Thucydides says Then, with the ordinary conventions of civilized life thrown into confusion, human nature,...showed itself proudly in its true colors, as something incapable of controlling passion, insubordinate to the idea of justice. So if his views of human nature is they are incapable to controlling passion and insubprdiante to the idea of justice i don't see how Grim_Jokes' view of human nature to be irresponsible can't be considered philosophical. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 things will always turn out in the worst possible way they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I actually said it could be a philosophical view on human nature. Which it is, Thucydides says Then, with the ordinary conventions of civilized life thrown into confusion, human nature,...showed itself proudly in its true colors, as something incapable of controlling passion, insubordinate to the idea of justice. So if his views of human nature is they are incapable to controlling passion and insubprdiante to the idea of justice i don't see how Grim_Jokes' view of human nature to be irresponsible can't be considered philosophical. I can give you irresponsible, but his entire statement is diminished by him first stating that all humans are "morons." If he had said irresponsible as a stand alone statement, then its arguably philosophical, but to claim that all humans are "morons" isn't even close, and demonstrates that 'irresponsible' should be taken in an entirely different context than philosophical because it is being used along with a word like "moron," which is not philosophical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Yes, i can't justify that as philosophical. Unless i interpreted what he meant. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Bunny Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hmm, something quite leftwing-ish: 1) Humanism. 2) Socialism. 3) Anti-theism. Those are my ism's. The strong have an inherant duty to protect the weak. Thus we must pay taxes. \ Communism is not fit for humans. We are not good enough for it. Tip.It is officially Red. o.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Live life to the fullest. Be informed and passionate about things. Never settle for less than what you know is attainable, and fight indifference. If you have an interesting idea, follow through and investigate it. Don't give up if you get frustrated. Don't waste time worrying, getting upset, or getting offended - things sort themselves out, and it's just a waste of time being in a negative/down mindset. Be purposeful and efficient in what you do - live actively. Set your own intelligent moral values. Don't ever allow yourself to be controlled. Just a few things I go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falco513 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I think Murphy's Laws generally seem pretty true, you could say I live by them...in a way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Try anything once, except incest and eating poo. Words to live by. Mine is: The end justifies the means. And communism will never work, so you'd best quit trying. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Bunny Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 On the contrary KC, Communism has been proven to work in a small community setting. However, at this point in time Communism is not a viable form of national government. :cry: "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs." A fine philosophy to live by? Communism is not fit for humans. We are not good enough for it. Tip.It is officially Red. o.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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