splatmster24

lol, thats awsome. good to see you back man, HE HAS RETURNED TO US! REJOICE!

Wow. Someone may have read up on the ending to the American-Japanese War but they sure haven't read up on one of the main factors that caused WWII in the first place, namely, the Treaty of Versailles. The whole of Europe (and the U.S., actually) forced Germany to accept peace on condition they had an army of a restricted size. It created a feeling of resentment amongst normal German citizens, and just gave Hitler a manifesto to get into power. Do you seriously think the Japanese, especially in the light you've portrayed them in, would have reacted much differently to you? Signing peace with a country in war-time isn't giving them a "slap on the wrist". As you said, collateral damage had already been inflicted on the Japanese infrastructure. They'd already lost enough. You could just as easily have pushed them into surrender through a coastal amphibious invasion than by dropping a bomb which literally frazzled thousands of innocents civilians on the spot. Ah yes, an invasion, instead of forcing the japenese to think that we had the unlimited power to level thier country, lets just send a couple million US and British troops to die in an invasion that nearly every japenese would have fought against. what you dont seem to realize is that the imperial army of japan was giving thier own civilians SPEARS to charge GIs with. millions of japenes civilians would have been sloughtered, along with thousands of Americans. Once we landed they never would have thought about surrender. Had we allowed ourselves to accept thier terms of surrender we would have left ourselves open to another attack by the japenes. i seriosly doubt they would have been that dumb but in 1945 thinking they were still a massive liability. "Trading 80,000 lives"? What makes you think they were your lives to trade? They were innocent Japanese civlilians - what on earth makes you think you have a moral right to target them just because it will force them into surrender? And hardly any Americans would have died. Yes, Japanese soldiers literally threw themselves into suicide attempts with the sole purpose of taking someone else down, but surely isn't that what all soldiers in war are in effect doing? they're all dying for their own country, albeit in different ways. It was not America's right to decide that the death of 80,000 innocent lives in trade for the preservation of another imperialist country between you and the Soviet Union is the lesser of two evils. Don't pretend as though Japan appreciates you for dropping those bombs when there are still thousands of people even today suffering from the radiation released after those two bombs. Read up on thier preperations. they were ready for an assault. thier civilians were being trained in how to kill as many americans as possible before they died. hundreds of thousands of americans would have been killed. saying that hardly any would have died shows that you really have no idea of the military and civilian power japan still controlled. an estimated 100.000 would have become casualties before they even hit the shore. Millions of japenese would have been mowed down in Kamikaze charges. thousands more would have died of starvation in the following months. of the 80,000 killed in the blasts it is doubtful that even a quarter would have survived. If i had to make the choice now knowing full well what would have met my troops had they invaded i would drop those bombs again in an instant. Try a new tact, think about what we could be arguing about right now if we had invaded and not bombed, and we just now figured out that all those millions of lives could have been saved had we used our technology when we had it. what would your reaction be?

People died man. Their eyeballs popped out and their skin melted into the river like blobs of oil in a soup as they tried to escape the burn. [cabbage] like that is never justifiable. what the heck are you talking about? doesnt anyone get it? i happen to have litterally hundreds of books and first hand reports on this matter, including those of japenese officers, politicians, and citizens. what everyone doesnt seem to understand is the japan was nowhere near surrendering. in every cove the was a suicide boat, in every cave was a suicide plane, they had millions of men prepared to fight to the feath, not to mention every woman and child! all but a few of thier cities were compltly destroyed and yet they still fought on. the leaders pf japan were the military generals who answered to no-one but the emperor. it took his final intervention to still convince to surrender, but even after that there was an attempted coup de'tat to continue to fight. no, these bombs saved millions of live, american, british, and japanese. without them literally all of japan would have ceased to exist. i gauruntee that most of the americans posting on this forum today would not have been born, because thier great-grandfather would have been killed, or stationed somewhere else. trading 80000 lives to preserve a entire country seems heartless, but i stand by what we did. This is probably one of the hardest issues to convince someone over. I figured that the more you study it, the more your opinion is formed on the issue. I'm just saying that the Japanese were open to negotiations, which is factual. If negotiations were made, with no avail, and the Japanese made clear that surrender for them was not imminent, then I would see no problem with dropping the bomb. However, that was not the case. If the Allies negotiated properly and use diplomatic tact, the bomb could have been completely unnecessary. That's my problem with the bomb, and I guess it really can't be debated much more. It's more of a realization I suppose. oh yea, open to negotiations, they wanted to keep the emperor in power(fine by me), keep thier army(no way), and have no occupation. it sounds like an easy decision today, but put yourself back in that time. you have lost friends, brothers, uncles, fathers. you are in a country that was nuetral through so much, then the other guys attack YOU! do you really want to let them get away with a slap on the wrist? no, you want them to never be able to do that again. fact of life.

a lightning bolt straight hell? this guy cant say "punish me lord" any louder.

Quick! Everyone become terrible actors! Its the only way to fight these things! bullets, we need lots of bullets.... DONT GO TO SLEEP!

well, he may not be right but it still should be pointed out that america CANT do anything right now. the war in iraq has paralized the country so it cant declare war without haveing the president impeached. this is the United nations job, not just one countries. Yes but except minimal aid it looks like th UN is gonna sit on there butts and do nothing, once we get out of Iraq I believe we must work with this area of the world. It shouldn't be the UN's either. It should be the African Union's job.\ because Sudan is in Africa no north American or Europe. the AU? the au is more useless than UN. and it is the UN responsibility, they are to send peacekeeping troops anywhere on the planet that a genocide is going on, then when the time comes the decide not to call it that. yes, it is a genocide, and yes, the US is in the UN, not only the US needs to respond, but the whole world. The U.S millitary is already stretched thin. If the U.S intervened it would be Iraq all over again. Think about every time the U.S intervenes in another country's afair and how it turned out for the U.S. I mean Vietnam was a huge success wasn't it? The korean war earned the U.S the name of awesome peace maker....and I suppose things are going well in Iraq too right (if you can't tell that was sarcasm you are either incredibly stupid or your history sucks or maybe both)? please dont bring up iraq, thats a whole other ballgame that will only start a flame war. but yes, my point still stand. the US CANT get into another foreighn war.

he has many valid points. i agree with him on a lot of what he says. But i will answer him. the ONLY reason i still play runescape is that i cannot load any other game on my computer. y parents do not allow it. they pay for members otherwise i wouldnt play period.

new update kills this.

i honestly applaud them for trying, but i know that it wont work. there are far to many "cool" kids talking already. would love the opportunity to argue creationism with a athiest teachher but i think i can live without.

well, reading this on september 11 really makes me sick. All this "remember sept 10th" makes me want to puke.

well there is still about 8 around the green drags on every world so id say no.

not at all, the person you buy from is perfectly happy for his end of the bargain and the person you sell to is just as happy, your happy because you just paid 1k for an 8.5k item. everybodys happy.

use tip it items database, should answer your question.

well, its was just a matter of time, they couldnt keep it up until they became as common as steel. i personally havent gone to try to get any drops yet so i wouldnt really know but from the facts ingame and out id say its safe to say they are nerfed.

dang, i didnt even know there was a tip it chat. maybe we need another? with only true tipiters as mods. im not volunteering.

Ah, the god wars dungeon. its an incredibly beast updatefor everyone who is an incredibly high lvl. As for the rest of us who work on stuff other than combat its not very usefull. i burthrope every task i get out there, d boots are already so low in price it just doesnt justify the p pots or the risks. ill keep killing my trolls and blue drags while you waste pray pots on a lost cause.

Why would you skull? Just turn on protect item go to kq or something and die. hmmm, say, fury ammy, dragon chain, legs, boots, full helm whip,

ah! but what if you are wearing full dragon? i really dont want to lose that much money by skulling myself. since this is a hypothetical situation i would get a VERY good friend to skull on and he would pick my stuff up.

starcraft brood wars is the shiz, glad to see im not the only one tyo have played it.

gonna miss you man. i might be doing the same thing soon, dunno.

how old r u?

wow is the devil. i would cry. in a manly way, just thinking of all the people that would commit suicide.

you cant, yet. probably soon though.,

Incorrect, you can also use it for f2p runes MEMBERS can use it for f2p runes f2p can't use it no, you can still use them for any runes, i use them on w 16 air crafting.

pure ess, law running, fish lobs, train up some cb.