Randox

are the slowing down the computer becvause i have that but ive never done anything about it.

ANd another discovery, no matter how minor. I decided to check out the white knight castle, to see if there were any symbols depicting alligence and boy are there ever. Also, you know the WOM has gold trimmed saradomin armour, these guys have the regular trimmed version of saradomin armour on there armour stands, the faint white lines. I've never noticed the trimming before, and I doubt many peole have, you really have to be looking for it. The blue banner I belive is the symbol of faladore or of the white knnights.

I think zaros will return, I dont know about another god war though

I think KingWenlocks idea about having saradominist visitors is a real possibility. Also about the bird thing on the wall, theres more just like it on the walkway tot eh eroom where you drop the cabage, this might help poeple get better camera angles. Heck , I could grab a few pictures myself, but not full screen. I'm especily interested in the symbol below the swirl, it looks like a set of horns and to my knowladge, we ahvent seen a symbol like it as of yet. I wonder if it could provide a clue to the swirls meaning and then tot he meanings of the other standing stones. And i really like that idea for members, the cat could be a valuble clue. Any way, my multi-angle pics of the gargoyles should save you guys a trip :

If you've got any leads for us to follow on the whole "under the bed issue", by all means tell us. Were all super investigators by now 8-)

First off, I don't belive any of the gods (except zamorack) were ever majharrat, because majharrat are all mortals. Also Saradomin couldnt possibly be majharrat because he is not from frankese(sp?). Also Dragons are generaly cretures of zamorack under his control, though the elder dragons and dragon kin are likely beond his control. Also, no god was aware of Guthix untill he woke up, and as a result Guthix knows little about Zaros. The first creatures Guthix brought to Runescape were sheep, the second were supposedly cats. And yor right about the ectofuntus, he really is not much more than an idol, im not sure how p[owerful he is though, either way I dont see him being veary relevent. I would be willing to consider, as an altranate theory on the banner that TB@JT are lazy and didnt want to make a new banner, but i'd rather find a link if one really does exist, but I cant see why the black knights would have anything to do with saradomin when they have a chaos alter upstairs.

Other than the fact that there was a Typhoon named Maemi... Gender: Female Origin: Japenese Meaning: Honest Child or Smile of truth I assume King Wenlock came tot eh same conclusion I did. Maemi has no signifigance so far as google can tell us.

More pics from randox. The one on top is a picture of the alter in the wizard tower basement, the one on the bottom is a picture of the alter in lumbrige church which is typical of a saradomin alter. Does anyone have a picture of the alter in the elf city, I know that alter also has no symbol so I want to see if it's simaler. These should help save people some walking time. Now to investigtate the cats name.

Heres the pics of the banner and the symbol, so that people dont have to got here to see them. Edit: I shall check out this mystery alter than, im also going to swing by the stones to compare the symbols. Edit2: the upper symbol matches one of the standing stones perfectly. Edit3: your right about the alter, im going to upload a picture of it and a normal alter for comparison. I like doing things with pics!

Actualy discovered something quite by accident. The banner in the basement of the wizzard tower, I hope we all rember it with that sheild symbolising varrock and symbols of saridomin. ANy way I found 2 just like it in the black knight fortress (from the quest). Me and King Wenlock went over the entire castle, we also found the swirl symbol from the rocks on the wall in the witches room in that castle. King Wenlock was going to google the witches cat's name. I think it was maemi.

I havent seen any evidence of that either. Armadyl was capable of combating Zaros so he must have been prety powerful, much to powreful for a mortal.

The 77's dont even line up, this looks like it took about 30 secs to make heres a tutorial: http://www.runecrypt.com/forum/index.ph ... opic=39902 and bloodvelds which you should proboly read first. http://www.bloodveld.com/fakes.htm

True the Ectofunctus is a veary minor God, but a God none the less. It/he is the god of the undead. Saradomin - God of: good, strenth, wisdom, peace, order, pleasentry. motto - strenth through wisdom Guthix - God of: balance and Nature motto - Balance is power of the 3 main Gods oinly Guthix does not reqire worship to remain in Runscape as he draws his power from th eplanet itself Zamorack - God of: chaos, evil, destruction, and darkness (not of death!) motto - Strenth through chaos Armadyl - Thought to be the God of purity, but this is unconfirmed. Friend of Saradomin. Saradomin has said Armadyl is in good physical health wherever he/she/it is. Zaros (empty lord) - Thought by many to be the God of Pure evil, but this is unconfirmed. Just because he fought with Armadyl dose not make him Evil. We won't know for sure until he returns (if he does). Also the God of Ancient magics. Enemy of Zamorack (Zamorack also fears Zaros) Seren - Godds of the elves. Lead the Elves to Gielinor through a wordgate. Is present in all crystal. Elidines - A godes belonging to the "Menaphite Pantheon". Bound 3 spirts to the river Elid (the spirits have poiwer over the river). Marimbo - God of the Monkeys Ectofunctus - God of the Undead Demi-Gods Iban - calle dht e'son of zamorack', he is not physicly related, but related, in power and morality. I think he is killed during a members quest so is of little concern. Icthlarin - God of the dead. Known and worshiped mainly in the desert, especily Menaphos and Sophenem, can grant immortality by refusing to allow natural death (you can still be murdered though). Also former leader of the Majeraht before Zaros (yes zaros not Zamorack) I missed a couple, including the Goddes of destruction (I think anothe rmember of the Menaphite Pantheon), but I dont think any of the ones I missed are still able to influence anything, and I'll update the list as nessasary.

Other than the perspective thing Its great

KC is correct about Armadyl. Hes even more of a good guy than saradomin is. It would seem that most information about the gods Zaros and Armadyl comes from Armadyl and Saradomin being friends. Zamorack still fears Zaros, and I think it resonable to assume that if Zaros came back at full power, he could possibly defeat Zamorack. Zaros is also the 'God of Ancient Magics', his symbol is a circle around an eqidistant(sp?) cross, the symbol on the ancient magic staff. I was also supprised to find out the ectofunctus is a God

Are all the fans working (I assume its a pc but if its a laptop this is even more important), because a hot computer runs noticably slower, I know this from personal experiance with my laptop which can't run Runescape when its runnign hot. Or has anything else changed that would make your computer hotter than normal? If noty than you might have a program running in the background that takes up alot of your proccesor, or i suppose to much RAM.

Thank you to all the people who gave me suggestions. After physicly re-setting the CMOS chip (not fun :wall: ) my computer works just fine, Although I still hjave to sort out the clock, all the time settings were lost.

Hopefully by the time of next weeks meeting I will have figured out what the elder dragons are and what the dragon kin are exactly, and see if KBD is involved. I'm also going to brush up on my runescape gods and see if any of the other ones could be involved. Its nice to have something to do again.

The first time the manual said turn off the computer, hold the pg up key and turn back on, all it did was cange the beeps. And the switch, I think it deplets the BIOS batterey giving a physical reset, ill post how that goes tomarow. And as far as I know I gave it no extra voltage.

I might have another option. tommarow Ill open the case, I found the physical jumper switch so I will try re-seting using that. Then i'll probloly go for a new motherboard and I guess a new proccesor, cause they might both be ruined, and I think there attached to eachother anyway (as 1 unit)

In theory, it wont matter what mother board I use will it, or if I use something different will I lose all my files? And it is possible that when it showed the 2 speeds it meant that overcloack was in addition to normal speed in which case I more than doubled it #-o

maby I wont make it. World 61 lagging to unplayable for my poorlaptop and my good computer blew its mother board (it never lags much on any world I swear). So unless cooling the laptop works im out. Edit: cooling succesful im on my way

dont know about my higest, but my lowest was around 4 or 5 of 28.

Never mind, i guess i will make it to meeting, tip.it forgot the timezones in North Americal are an hour ahead I think so the event is still after the meeting, which I belive is in 1 hour and 40 minutes. Yay ill make a meeting!

I didnt add any extra voltage, and If I understood what I was doing at all I overclocked about 23mhz over normal, and if I read it wrong than I incresed to just over twice the normal speed, but i think it was just a small increse. And im quite sure it was reset properly because I am no longer getting a beep that, on some systems would signal serious over heating, insted its telling me the timer stoped working. The processor is a AMD K7.