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Well, KC and KingWenlock alredy know, but the 3 of us (that would be me, KC and KingWenlock), decided to take a trip into the wildy after the meeting, and we found some neat stuff, got attacked, and what not. I was the photographer for the trip so here are the pictures of interesting things. I'm the one with a weapon, KingWenlock is the one with the wizard hat, and KC is the one with nothing. I would draw special attention to the floor. The tileing makes a patern, namly the symbol of ancient magic, Zaros symbol!. Also the chaos alter would suggest that zamorack took over this (former) temple after Zaros dissaperance. This is the other chaos alter we visated. The others couldnt see this being on low detail, but I draw your attention to the carpets, mainly the little ones. Notice the black symbol of saradomin. Either TB@JT are using that symbol as a general decoration, or that symbol has a knack of turnign up in the most inaproriate places. The windows we belive might resemble the ones in the monestary, so I shall head over and get pics of 1st and 2nd story windows soon. The shape is also veary odd, being reminicent of a mace IMO. This is my first picture of the ruins located just north of the gravyard full of zombies and planks. This was once populated, as you can see from the 2 beds and sink. That sink still has working plumbing as you can use it to fill buckets. My guess is that this was a city (a veary tiny one) demolished during the God wars (reminding everyone that the wildness comprises the grounds on which most of the God Wars were fought). The others didnt get to see this on the trip either. Its a former temple(I know this because I examined the pillers and they said "a ruined temple". The ladder going up was broken, like the ones at mezars maze. Nothing to interesting, just took pic so others could see. Why are there black knights here. I took mainly incase anyone recognizes the banner. Thats it for pictures, though we explored the demonic ruins and the ruins to the east. When I think about it the demonic ruins were proboly once like the chaos alter (the one in the second pick), as there about the right size. The ruins to the east I belive are the remains of a castle, proboly a stronghold for zamakorian forces during the god wars. We tried to examine the dark knight fortress, but were unable to find one empty enough to allow investigation.

I hope some people read this before the meeting. I suggest we take the 3 books from the WOM's house, just incase we need info on them. They are fairly usefull recorces and if we get around to elder dragons they prety much are the only resorce, so having a copy of the books might be useful. I'll bring them of couse but everyone should have there own copies. Just an idea.

count me in. Time depending i'll do my best to be there, havent tried killing anyone with teh chicken before...sounds fun :thumbsup:

Those times are wrong (except GMT). The north american times and were in daylight savings now so there 1 hour later than posted. Personaly I wish everything had been moved back an hour at DLST because im in AST time zone, so the meeting is at 4pm and the TET event is at 5pm when most people have supper. Im fine with whatever world but I think KC should anounce it, otherwise ill be waiting on what ever world we normaly use (not 7) On Topic: I'm glad someone agrees with me (I think) on a God related issue, as no of us seem to agree in thta area. Hopefully we shall have a productive meeting on whatever world. And I wont be leveing 10 minutes early (or i dont expect to) because im really just interested in that wildy fight. So KC, would you please confirm the world were meeting at?

I have always wondered why people in my country (Canada) think this way. What good comes of hating your neighbor when you live in a country thats partily economicly dependant on the US (in terms of inport/export), and to be honest if someone invaded Canada i'd be hoping real hard that the americans would defend us. And personaly, I think they put money into their economy far more effectivly than my government does. Here we give money to strugling busnesses that will still go bankrupt becasue there is not market for there product. In the states, mostly evident in the military, the government buys the product, and by so doing provide both funding and a market (of course they dont do this for every one but it beats throwing money at things expecting them to work).

I stick around if only for TET events. I'm just bored now, if I stop playing for a while the bored problem fixes it's self. I wont quit though, I'm still thinking about getting members one day...

Good so far, but if this goes beond what really happened do I get a part or should I wait for someone to right about events where I was a mroe active participant. But good job, better than I can do and I look forward to part 3.

I do hope were not basing Saradomin being a mahjaraat all on him being from frenaske. If you are than were definatly drwing false conclusions. Freneskea is just another rewalm, proboly with its own gods and there has to be atleast 1 other realm out there because I know at least 1 of the gods is not from frenaskea (It might be Guthix). Also, and am deeply under the impresin that most of the Gods are also from freneskea yet are not mahjaraat. I think that the mahjaraat are a group of higher humans/superior humans that live longer, cast better magic, and the ones that used dragon armour and weapons proboly had greater strenth. Note: I do not know if any mahjarrat actualy used dragon items, I do know however that dragon armour and weapons came here fom frenskea. Also, maby all humans in freskae are like the mahjarrat (explaning why there called a tribe not a race maby), and there all superior to the humans inGielenor. I'll be at the meeting today, unless my computer decides to blow itself up. And I don't expect you all to agree with me but I am compelled to tell you what I know and what I think I know. Now I must go walk the dog.

*looks at sig* *looks at avatar* care to take a guess?samus aran

I'm going to second Xweeler here and say the Dorgeshuun have NO GOD. It may alos be worht reminding peoplel that Guthix forbade the Gods to interfere and I belive that rule may apply to it as well. Now Saradomin and Zamorack could still interfere a little bit so long as it was not worth a confrontation on Guthixis part. I wuold also say that the Wizard tower is still both loyal to Varrock and the rest of Misthalin and supporters of Saradomin. Thats all for now 8-)

No Xewleer, I have not forgoten about the trip to the swamps, I just forgot who did it and how long ago. Perhaps I should have asked weather we still had a member on the investigation though that wouldnt be much better. My apologies :oops:

I would have put 1alebcay but I forgot how to spell, and I was to lazy to look. The dorgeshuun proboly once worshiped the goblin war god. I dont think they worship any God now as no God has the same level of no conflict policy that these dorgeshuun have. And yes, it would have been easy for jagex to have one apper before the update 'discovered them' . The whole WOM plot was proboly mostly preplanned as it would be hard to make up such an intricate plot as we go along. I dont think im going to get anymore information on the dorgeshuun, the only way to get proper info would be to get membership and do the 'death to the dogeshuun' quest myself. On a related note: Do we have any members that are a part of this or are we all former members and f2pers. I'll see if my member friends have any good info, but I won't be able to convince them to runaround investigating things for me.

Well, I suppose if all else fails we always have the penguin under the bed idea, which i'd say is the second most likly next to the dorgeshuun theory.

I'll take the highscores data base and see if I can make a somewhat intersting and pretty graph from it. PM me if you want to disscuss how to send me the data and i'll see what I can do with it. Out of curiosity how long have you been colecting this data?

Getting my full zammy armour. Getting 74 cooking (I'll never burn another lobster, or so I hear) Beating Dragon slayer (no lobster, I used stew : ) 850 skill total (F2P pure) And 43 prayer. The most boring thing ever

No, we have not as of yet been able to identify the creature under the bed. A Dorgeshuun...hmmm. We'll going ont eh evedence you (skreeran1) have submited that seems likly. I shall investigate this personaly though im sure that as always nothing conclusive will come of it Anyway maby one of the better overal plot thinkers (like KCHughes and KingWenlock) whould try to figure out if this afects the plot at all :-k EDIT: My initial reserach shows that Dorgeshuun are not stupid or prone to fighting. They seem to oppose all violance. They are rarly seen by humans as they do not trust humans, and they have lived underground since the Godwars. I will only post more if I should find anything substantial.

What are you talking about? what game? is this guy some RS player who treted you unfaily in a game and now your organizing a protest? In the future, try to be clear, that post is veary hard to understand. EDIT: And wtf is mountain time. try GMT as most people can figure it out from that.

Excelent find KC, and I have never before considered the possibility that Freneskae, was more of another dimension/plane than another world altogether. The important difference beiong that it makes it far more likely for Arrav to have gone there this way. I am going to trus Wikipedia on the whole ectofunctus thing and maintain that it is a god, not that its relavent or maters. Also what do we think of starting the meeting 10 minutes early so we dont lose time when people leave early for TET events?

The mahjarrat may be a tribe, but they are all still superior to normal humans such as our charecters. I don't think the WOM could become one. The 3rd age was the God war sot he start of the fourth age might be the end of the God war. And 1alebcay could be right and the WOM might be more intersted in the remains of the old tower. I would also susspect somewhere here the WOM is going to try and disscover how to use magic without runes, and this is quite possibly his ultimate goal, not Godlyness or the apocolypse(alsthough those are still possibilities)

I shall say this: The elder dragons and Dragon kin are definatly 2 different things. The Elder dragons (procceding under the assumption they exist at all) have been here longert than Guthix and and so were here before Guthix's sheep. Also, like Guthix there power and life force is tied into Runescape so that if they werte to parish, so too would the world. Also, I belive that if the world were destroyed they qould die (along with everyone else). They are shure to be more powerful than even the KBD. The dragon Kin on the othere hand, my not currently reside anywhere in Runescape. I belive they have access to extreme forms of magic that are incredibly dangerous to meare mortals, and they might even have the power to rival the gods, so the next war could concevibly be between the Gods/Elder Dragons vs. the Dragon Kin. I wouldnt be supprised if penguins are involved in the WOMs plot. Most of this is speculation and inference, probaly because because the only sorces are a postbag letter and a book in the WOMs house, so I think ive drawn some pretty good conclusions from so little information : And could we start the next minute 10 minutes early? since anyone attending TET events will have to leave at least 10 minutes early.

Problem with nuclear Well if you use nuclear fusion, you are actually using up more energy than you produce. This, obviously, is a waste. It's quite obvious why only the sun can effectively use nuclear fusion With nuclear fission, there are vast amounts of nuclear waste. What do you do with them? It's been a couple of years since I have studied nuclear power. Please inform me if there is a solution to this problem Actually for nuclear fusion, you get more energy back than what you put in unless your making an element hevier than iron (stars dont produce anything heavyer than iron either, once you get to irion the start kinda goes nova)

Its worth pointing out that coal poerplants creatae radioactive ash, much of which is shoved up the smokestack to rain down or whaterver city it is in, you just normally dont notice it or hear about it. I'm quite pro nuclear, especily the candu design. I'm also agains major use or solar and wind for various reasons (mainly massive,[for solar thats MASSIVE! habitat disruption/destruction. But ya, nuclear is cleaner by a long shot, and theres plenty of nuclear fuel, esspecily if you count deuterium. There are special reactors that use waste from other plants as there fuel as well, which makes the uranium las way longer and massivly cuts down on potential waste. Using various fules we have enough for millions of years.

I agree that the majharrat are a species. Also chaos Druids im quite sure are actualy followers of Guthix, not Zamorak, the reason being that herblore is closely linked to Guthix, it being the god of nature and all.

Icthlarian is a demi-god, meaning one parent was mortal, so he might be half majharet. I suspect that zamorack has great fear of zaros because at the height of his power, Zaros could easily defeat zamorack, even with Zamoracks new god status. Zamorack only one the fight because of luck or trickery(did Zaros slip or was he triped?). I belive it to be a real possibility that the old main gods (Zaros and Armadyl) are much more powerful than saradomin or zamorack, so zamarack vs. Zaros or Armandyl now would be as good for Zamorack as Saradomin vs. Guthix would be for Saradomin. Ive got therories on elder dragons and dragon kin but that will have to wait.

Then I have 2 locations to search for the pestalence symbol. Firs Aggies house, and second the witch in RImmington who I belive is hetty(sp?). Theres also a witch south-east of al-kirad, so I might go there too. Im really gona get my cyber exercise in. EDIT: The sybol in aggies house is the exact same 2 symbols as in the black knight fortress