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God I hate this attitude. You know countries do change with time, Jack, and people have every right to protest things they don't like. I don't suppose you'd like someone telling you to get out of the country should Obama get in and redistribute some income to your utter distaste, would you? Say he did get elected, in reality you should have every right to protest his policy/share your opinion about it, because after all America is a democracy and everyone is allowed a say as to how the country should be run. There is a difference between "I do not like the government and It's policies" and "I hate this evil country and everyone who lives here is a stupid redneck who I am so much better than". I love this country no matter who is elected. It might become my life's goal to unseat Nancy Pelosi or Jackie Speier but that is different from Hollywood typed who say "If McCain is elected I'm moving to Canada" If someone really hates America, as Magekillr has made crystal clear plenty of times, then they should leave. I think there is a reason the immigration problem is people coming in and not leaving though.

You guys all sound pretty crazy. Do you actually read what you write? Unless President Bush had his own private intelligence agency separate from the government he didn't lie about the war. Go back and look at the NIE's from before we went to war. For a guy that is supposedly so stupid, he must be a genius to trick Bill Clinton's CIA director who said that it was a "Slam Dunk" that Saddam had WMD's, House democrats, Senate Democrats, and members of his own administration. All to get Iraq's oil? I think they are still producing less oil per day than they did before we invaded. And how on earth would getting Iraq's oil benefit him anyway?

It's so blatant though. I mean, Obama having the media behind him has to give him a considerable boost in the polls also.

All you people taling about the Kyoto protocol don't really understand much about I'd presume. You can't really blame Bush for it seeing as when Clinton was President the Senate voted against it by the razor thin margin of 95-0. Not to mention that it won't really affect world temps and only like two countries have met their marks. If anything I'd give him credit for not passing something like McCain-Lieberman. And his legacy will be a good one. 50 years from now when people vacation in Iraq, and it is safe, they will see that we did a good thing. He's done whats needed to be done to protect the country from another 9/11 type attack. He's secured tens of billions in aid for Africa. He's like a rock star over there. They just don't know that he hates black people though. He took North Korea off of the list of state sponsors of terror. Someday when we are allies with them we will have the President to thank. Once Iran agrees to stop going after nuclear weapons we will know it was President Bush who stopped the freeze on diplomatic relations. 50 years in the future in high school economics classes they will teach how the President's decisive action prevented another depression. And Op, get off the extraordinary rendition bandwagon. Is it wrong for the United States not to give prisoners to the police of their home country? Is it our job to protect them from the laws of their own country? That's the reason that Gitmo is still open. They won't send the enemy combatants to their home countries.

^^ Glad to see some people understand "if you don't like it you can get out" Good Luck moving to Finland. How exactly do you go about that when you're poor and struggling to make ends meet? It's not like you can just make a business for yourself in the current economic climate where you can't even get a mortgage, nevermind a loan to sustain a small business. For the matter, I don't know why you're bothering to reference those job searching websites. The list I quoted was compiled from those sites and more. There is a problem with unemployment and poverty, and it boils down to more than "laziness", especially in an economic climate where jobs are drying up like no one's business. Will you just step out of your ivory towers and start talking about other people with the respect they deserve as fellow human beings? Dude, There is plenty of jobs. Why do you think there is an immigration problem? This goes full circle woith "Jobs Americans Won't do". And if there legitimately are no jobs in am area then there is unemployment insurance which the house recently extended.

So, if someone posts a news story done by CNN, is that something regurgitated by the media now, too? Dear lord. And, is that your explanation for this? By the by, as someone who works for this campaign, I do not believe the campaign has touched this.......yet. Dude, it's right off the DNC youtube channel. There's a reason Obama hasn't touched it. There isn't really any contradiction. If McCain was proposing a flat tax there would be but he's not. It's Obama who is trying to undo the Bush tax cuts which made the tax system more progressive.

Wow. You can regurgitate the same things the DNC and Obama campaign are putting out. Well done. =D>

Like dustbin collectors, cleaners? How many 40 hours a week jobs do you have in your area involving cleaning? I actually have a compiled list of jobs for 16-19 year olds sat by me now, half of which seem to be for cleaners or pot washers and the like. Now, one's offering 10.5 hours, here's one for 20, here's another for 1.5 a day... I needn't go on. I really don't think you have a clue about these people's situations, do you? It's easy to go "get off your [wagon] and work" but when there's no full-time work available, then what? If there is no work available then there is unemployment insurance. There is almost always work available though. http://www.monster.com/ http://www.careerbuilder.com/Default.as ... _us_y_jobs http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ And if there isn't you can create work yourself. It's really not that hard.

A religion based on Marxism? That's interesting, given Marx's stance on religion... Talk to James Cone or whatever his name is.

Do Catholics use medicine? Determining when someone lives or dies is exactly what you do when you take antibiotics/cancer treatments, etc. OOH! I'm Catholic! \ Yes, Catholics use medicine because God put the plants there for us to use. But saying that medicines are "damnable" because they prolong life and therefore play God is as equally arguable that refusing medicines to shorten your life is also playing God. If both are damnable, then take the lesser of two evils and choose a longer life to make better medicine ;) The point is that the very invention of medicine served to put the destiny of human life in our own hands. If you see it as the lesser of two evils to actually use medicine, then in all honesty I'm extremely happy that you do. My point is that I just don't understand how someone could believe that life and death is the will of god then in the same breath go to the doctor to get antibiotics because a bacterial infection is killing them. Life is a gift that should be enjoyed thoroughly.

Like $50 Billion in aid to Africa? That is totally irrational.

No. I do listen to Phil Hendrie sometimes though.

I think bombastic is the word you are looking for. But compared to Olbermann, O'Reilly should win the Pulitzer prize.

edit: ^^ That would probably be better. It's some Black Liberation Theology, or something along the lines. Basically, White Christians are liars, and Black Christians are the real ones. Something like that, I forget. But he says he's "Christian," though he isn't really. It's a little worse than that. It says that if God is not on the side of black people trying to kill white people than black people must kill God. It's not a bible based theology but a Marxist based theology. And Obama picked the Marquee church of it.

How the flying [bleep] hell do you know a god exists? In a way you will never understand until you feel the same thing.

CNN is biased too. Not as bad as Msnbc. CNN is mostly fair, but there was just some thing yesterday where a CNN guy tried to ask a getcha question to Palin and misquoted a writer and called Palin 'stupid, corrupt, incompetent and all of the above' I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself. Foxnews has Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove. How much worse can you get than that? O'Reilly constantly makes a fool out of himself, so maybe people have just grown accustomed to him. Yes MSNBC is one of the most liberal channels, but don't try saying Fox isn't as bad. Karl Rove is a guest on their shows and O'Reilly's program is not a news program. He's a commentator not a journalist. Really though, watch both of their programs and compare them. Olbermann really does make O'Reilly actually look 'fair and balanced'. Msnbc had Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions. That's a job for journalists not commentators. Fox news doesn't have Sean Hannity and Billo the clown anchoring their coverage. Msnbc said that Olbermann and Chris Matthews 'know the line between journalism and commentating' when it was pretty obvious that they didn't. It is just blatant.

Why am I surprised that your statement comes with a heaping load of irrational assumptions? You assume that parents could just snap their fingers and generate a job at will. In case you haven't noticed, its difficult at times for even skilled workers to find jobs. The current unemployment rate is 6.1%, which doesn't even take in to account people who have given up job hunting because their prospects are so bad. How exactly are two (likely uneducated) parents living in poverty supposed to find these magical 40 hour a week jobs again? A 40 hour a week job isn't magical. That's just full time. And this kind of goes full circle with the phrase "Jobs Americans won't do"

^^ You probably don't want to know. For a guy who talks about the politics of division he practices a religion of division. I love it. You whine about Atheists not giving to charity, then when they do, it's just "inflating their ego". Putting ads on buses is giving to charity?

I don't think 40 hours a week is really too hard to get. That's full time. Even if it is a family that means both parents only have to work 20 hours a week. If someone can't do that and they are able bodied that probably means they are lazy.

I don't see how you can watch Msnbc and not know. I mean Msnbc makes Fox look like Pbs or something. I mean when you see Keith Olbermann anchoring coverage of the conventions, It is just so blatant that they are in the tank for Obama and the democrats. At least I got to see Olbermann make a fool of himself.

^^ Ya, it's that good.

Just more atheists who need to inflate their ego's and feel good about themselves. This stuff get's old really fast.

Your complete ignorance to the world around you astounds me more and more every time you post. Firstly, poor people are not poor simply for being lazy. I have no idea where you've got that myth, because not even the GOP would support that comment. No Christian church service I've ever been to has insinuated that either. Interestingly enough, Newsnight (on the BBC) had a report from Paul Mason last night from Michigan. Apparently, the top three jobs there are: [*:bn9khf6e]Restaurant/fast food outlet worker [*:bn9khf6e]Shop assistant [*:bn9khf6e]Cashier Neither of which earn more than $10 an hour on average. This isn't even an economically challenged area either - it's post-industrialist America. For context, that amount is effectively below the legal minimum wage in this country for 16 year olds. The issue is not that poor people are lazy, it's that the gap between the rich and the poor is too wide. If your myth was true, that most poor people are lazy, the economy would grind to a halt since no one would be working for middle-class business owners. As for the homeless, I'd have thought it obvious why a homeless man can't apply for a job without a home address. I would consider a cashier lazy. That is a pretty easy job and if someone is content to be a cashier and be poor I would call them lazy. The average poor household in America runs on less than 20 hours of work per week. If that were increased to 40 how many people do you think could be lifted out of poverty? Just by working full time. I know that saying the solution to be poor is actually getting off your but and working might not be politically correct though.

Not really. Because I said without anything I had before. Really, the worst neighborhood in the city would probably be the best place to be homeless. And are talking about poor, not just homeless. I think any veteran should be taken care of. That is different from the guy who sits in front of safeway everyday. And just because Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly say something means it is automatically wrong? So puppies aren't cute? I really can't talk for you, since we have totally different backgrounds, but I'd say that there's something fundamentally wrong in thinking people are poor because they're lazy. I'd say it's wrong in being so lenient to having poor people have their illnesses treated when your country is the richest in the world -especially when your Christian upbringing tells you to help the needy and to share your wealth. I do share my wealth and my time. That is my prerogative not the governments.

I've missed a lot of stuff. I'm not going to even try to get to all of it. On Colin Powell, that was just hims trying to get his rep back after making the case for the war. I doubt it had much to do with race, seeing as Powell escaped the racism directed at other members of the Bush administration. And dude, I don't know who you are talking to but CEO's don't sit on their [wagon]. They work harder than pretty much anybody. That's why they ,ale the big bucks. And not every poor person is a single mother with 3 kids working 2 jobs. Most really are just lazy. And it's really not that hard to be successful. I really think that if I was just dropped off in the tenderloin with no money, no high school degree, and no anything I could make it at least to where I am. I mean, when I talk to homeless people I am always thinking "why on earth do you not have a job?" I see absolutely no reason why they don't work other than laziness. And there is something fundamentally wrong with forcibly taking something from one person to give it to someone else who just didn't feel like working.