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Seperate is much faster not really. even with max cb the xp an hr isn't that much with slaying. if you get cb up while slaying however you save a ton of time and on the road to 99 slay u can get 99 attack defence strength hp and almost summoning all in one go. No, actually it is indded MUCH faster to train it seperatly. You can get ^ of those skills "in one go", but the person who didn't slay has been doen for weeks.

3/10 Rushing Vids get rating for the high hits on armour, though prayer, and high hits. Hitting naked people really isin't impressive.

Lets not forget that Jagex can't just censor people who make an error or beg.

I don't think it can be made into a combat skill or affect combat. You have to "do" the skill to level skills up(in most cases). If it was a combat skill, or could make "combat" items, it could be trained by burning logs, which is much differnet from the other part of the skill. Its unlikely Jagex would make a whole new "part" of the skill, so different from it's original purpose. Also, flame arrows would probably be more fletching. Adding fire to arrows would be the most likely possiblity, but its still a very weak idea considering there is fletching. Also, fire arrows do have a use, besides the quest, I BELIEVE(think) they have a max hit +1 of the normal type. Also, if your AFKing killing Ice Warriors/Giants, they are fairly useful. For some reason you get them from PvP alot.

Seperate is much faster

I wanted to answer this so you could understand... Here are a few reasons why it isn't useless: 1. vyrewatch burning- lots of money there... 2. pyre ship burning- if you're lucky there's some money there 3. hot air balloons- makes traveling easier 4. inferno adz- dragon axe/rune pickaxe all in one 5. without firemaking you wouldn't be able to relight lanterns and candles when they go out 6. you wouldn't be able to light house burners by alters in your house without firemakeing- less xp/bone offered=more expensive skill and longer skill? 1. Wrong. Even Flax picking wins over it. 2. Getting the bones is so tiresome and costly its just not worth it. 3. Those things are useless... 4. When do you WC and mine at the same time? 5. WITHOUT. <-- Keyword. 6. Do those even need FM levels for that? If it does, then its back to Ecto.

You have to look at it scientifically. Can't just say "what if you got a hilt drop every kill" I have to go with 91 RC. It is a steady 900k/hour. Rune mining in the Wildy is the only thing that can come even remotely close. With Rune Ore slightly over 14k(Wel'll call it 15k), thats 60 Rune Ores to break even. That means AT BEST, you must hop worlds 30 times. Thats (slightly more than) 15 minutes in hopping worlds. You have AT BEST 45 minutes to find 30 worlds with Rune Rocks. Now, assuming it takes 15 seconds to mine a rock(Quite generous, in reality is it much higher), thats another 15 minutes. You'll have to bank 3 times, which would probably take around 5 minutes each(Getting to bank and back). Now, you've got 15 minutes to make up for empty worlds. Thats 30 attempts. That in itself is enough to kill RR mining. There around slightly over 170 worlds. That means ~6 miners will be able to share all of the worlds(If your F2p then fail). It's pretty obvious there are going to be more then 6 people. Next, there are PvP worlds, where the rocks are camped, so the amount of worlds is further shrunk. If a Rev comes, a death would put you out of the running completely, while evading it will cost you time. Non Wildy spots simply don't work. The amount of people camping is absurd. Over the course of charging 5k glorys, I've seen Rune Rocks not mined maybe 10 times. Otehr spots have far too less to make it worthwhile. Gaarhk RCing is sustainable since PEss is easy to buy, natures easy to sell, and the alter a embedded object. Besides, RCing is more fun. With mining you have to look at a loading screen for 1/4 of the time. Quite obsurd.

^ Slayer provides the most best way to train blanced, but balanced training isin't as good as maxing you offensive stats.

Dks were a step up in boss fights. The problem is that they are not strong enough. Unless you stand in the middle, you can easily use Prayer to negate their attack. Jagex intended people to fight all three at once, but thats not the case.

However if you COMBINE the best exp, money and charms together, and compare with Slayer as a whole, you will find Slayer wins. And also, Slayer provides a variety and doesn't make you feel like you are grinding (which is the case at AZ) Thanks.. Lord Shalaj You are right it does provide the best exp, charms, money toegether, but it is less efficient. It would be faster to get 99-99, then get money, then farm charms rather then do it all at once. Like I said before, there is not much variety in slayer. There are only SO many tasks. If you do get 99 slayer, you will realize that you will do many tasks repetitively. Slayer is a circle. Not a large circle.

^^ Its too bad I never saved all of my gambles. Would haave been interesting.

Legal. EVERYONE can use mousekeys. This is why it is legal. you are not disadvantaged because you CHOOSE NOT to use it. How can you justify forcing other people to use a disadvantaged way of training to make it even for you?

Very interesting. Something seems to be off though. The Godsword has a abnormally high exp/s. It has been proven to be much worse then the Whip+ Defender, and the SS has been proven to be much better then the GS at training Str.

Lol. SS spec Not sure if this was mentioned before(I CBA to check), but I heart running away from bandos is a good idea. I go to the pools, so run energy is not a problem. I find that running under bandos only stalls him for a short time, while running away stops all attacks until he comes. The added benefit is that Strongstack can't attack you aswell. Any estimate on how many I should be able to kill? I'm 99-99-90=95(A-S-D=H), using Terrorbird. I only have 61 Prayer(I hate the inflated D bones k?). I currently get 2 a trip, rarely 3 using a WHIP.

...or because they need to train their slayer in order to unlock content, e.g. slayer rings, broad bolts, broad bolt fletching, quest requirements... You look kind of silly when you forget that part. :ugeek: If you really hate slayer, then none of those items are really needed. Its faster to get a portal in your house or Ancient Magic for a Canifis teleport. Broad Bolts and Fletching arn't as godly as before due to the massive [bleep]e in their price onces people realized thry were good exp and good bolts. Quest reqs are the only actual reason, but tbh none of the rewards justify the slayer levels. Unless you want the quest cape, there is no point to train it. Even if new content is released, there are more then enoguh slayers to bring the price crashing down. Look at Dark Bows, and the whip.

Of corse it is possible...it would just take a very long time. /debate

Heart Unit is a PC group. It has no warring aspect, and is solely PC. Soul Slayers is the same but for Soul Wars. There won't be any conflicting wars obviously. Ahaha is dead.

Level 126 p2p Level 117 f2p 99 Attack and Strength, 89 Defence. I am currently in Heart Unit and Soul Slayers. On Runehead I am listed as being in Ahaha, but its dead to a point where they arn't even updating Runehead. Forums are dead too, no activity in a few months. I'm looking for a EST clan thats very active in clan wars. I would like to see war records, war screenies with ops, and possibly TWR point count. 100+ is a bare minimum, while 110+ is preferred. Other events would be nice, aswell as CC and Irc. I'm pretty experianced with wars, and have perticipated in many. I take orders, and won't b.... around. I have a ample amount of Rune sets, but I prefer Clan Wars as opposed to 5 hour PKRIs.

Nobody RC eh?

Well, the majority of monsters use Slash. There are few that use crush, but that number is very low. Its good in PKing because all Popular PKing weapons use Slash except for the DDS. Although there are things that use crush, how often do you fight them compared to Slash? Thats also besides the fact that rune isin't great at defending against Crush, and there are almost no monsters that use Stab, and even less that you'll actually fight against. Rune might be more versitile, but the Torso is much more practical.

Approximatly how many nats can you craft with all pouches using the Graahk method? How many without the 12 slot bag? I would prefer the number without double natures(91+ RC).

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Penance Gloves are lovely, as they are pretty epic for skilling. Although I mentioned this in the guide, I want to vouch again for the Fighters Hat...Its the same as the Warrior Helm, well...almost...But its amazing looking. Can you say Cyclops?

The Torso was the first item to give a Strength bonus. It depends on what you want, but if you don't care for Strength Bonus, you might aswell get Torags. Back then it was good because it was the only item that gave Str bonus, but more importantly it could be used by more people. 45 Defence allowed lower leveled players to use it, and was a definite step up from Rune. Penance Gloves are pretty nice, expecially at the low cost. If your good you can probably get it in one round(Waves 1-10).

The Torso is useless if you have the money, but I can get one in about 3 hours, so I CBA toget bcp. Also, using a shield is good on stages where you'll barely get through, but loosing health is pretty good because your healer gets more points. Thats why I suggested DFS, but a high level attacker should definatly use Rune Defender.Switching to DFS is only good on waves 8 to 10.

You don't miss out on points. If you look at the advanced breakdown, you'll see that points are given for RUNNERS KILLED in general. I've also never noticed a difference, and there doesn't appear to be a hidden reduction.