thnx for replying nadril, i agree with u about tht problem wich u can see sum warriors dancing naked... but also its scamming lvl is too low unlike RS scammers,macroers,autoers are covering the whole game, the trade window in GW is more secure and safe because when sum1 wants to scamm u or change wat he putted on the trade window it tells u tht the person is offering 0 items then it comes up with the changed item which makes lower risk of being scammed i know tht u will come up and say tht in runescape it have 2 trade windows but its still unsafe as some ppl rush to make the trade without even looking at the second trade and this happens alot i agree with you about the PvP part theres one thing i hate most about runescape which is the bad graphics i know that the game is even more addictive than cockaine but still have bad graphics i mean look at your charr you would see a box but put into a mould which looks like a human and dont forget the graphics of GW they are very good and they are more realistic than in runescape but the bad thing about GW is as u mentioned u can reach lvl 20 in a week and you can master the game so fast but have you tried to earn a title? if you tried to earn the title of tiryan master carthographer (discovered 100% of prophecis) or other titles you know what i mean this way you have alot of fun and why dont you buy other compaigns and put them into the same account? (as u said GW players are kids who doesnt pay? i think you can pay in that case) this would even keep u busy alot and makes u feel the fun of the game well.. i gotta say is tht every game has positives and negatives