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Thank you very much. :P It doesnt hurt me as much now, because I no longer make money off herblore.. I just use it to make myself pots for the wild etc now days.. But I still would like to have the option to purchase herbs like the old days. :wall: I used to buy ranarrs in bulk back when they where 7k ea, then go sell all the ppots for a nice profit + exp. :thumbsup: Now I just make my money off combat / collecting rare secondarys. I agree with the hurts and helps thing, because I was smart enough to stock up 400 ppots 2 weeks before the update was announced. And even more when it was. Im just waiting for ppots to jack up a bit more on the market. :-k But after those are sold It's collecting my own herbs from then on. :boohoo:

I'll have to get more runes on my noob =) But I have a lvl 37 mage. his stats are 55 mage 3 def 3 prayer 2 attack and like... 38ish hp? want to fight?

The title is SARCASM, this is about how the herblore update effects herbalists more than scammers. Hi, this rant might be a little late, but I think it deserves some attention. I looked at a few rants on the runescape official forums... And almost every person that rants about it gets a post saying... "stop scamming, this update is made to stop people like you from selling someone gaums and saying they are ranarrs" ^ noob much? What if you don't like the fact herb prices will go up because of the update? now that the unid market is nonexistent, you cant buy ranarrs any cheaper than 7k ea now, as compared the the 1k before. Now let me guess what gets said next... "the only people that don't like this update are herb merchant billionaires" ^ not true, if you knew much about herblore you'd disagree. What if you liked picking up an unid someone doesn't care to pick up because it's probably a gaum, and then you id it to find out it was a ranarr! I'm sure this situation has happened to lots of herbalists out there. This wont happen anymore because that person will think, "hey wait, this is worth something" seeing it is a contaminated ranarr. This update does not only hurt herb merchants. This update can have an effect on people who use potions to kill monsters & for player killers. For example; Ranarrs go up some, making ppots go up; You need ppots to go on a Daggonith king trip(probably a super set, super anti and range pot too?). well... your paying more per trip now aren't you? Which could make that beserker ring or dragon wc axe harder to get as it's costing you a lot of money, that you possibly dont have. You figure that the drops aren't paying for the trips, and move on to something else. guess what, now people who buy rare monster drops(ie dwc axe, dchain,etc) have to save up MORE to afford those items. and it doesnt stop there, it just turns out BARROWS needs alottttt of potions. Pking needs lots of pots too. Throwing the economy slightly out of whack. This update can hurt those who like to train their herblore financially because its even harder to score off even. This update can hurt those lvl 60s that collected unids to sell to merchants. All because some noob-merchant-wannabe didn't know how to herb merchant and got 0wned by some guy with 1k gaums. And decided to go whine to jagex because he was tricked by his incompetence & lack of knowledge of herblore. If you don't know the antiscam... WHY ARE YOU BUYING UNID RANARRS IN BULK? If you know little of the skill, why are you spending over 8m on 1k unid ranarrs? Why pay a nice chunk of cash when your not sure about what your doing? It's commonly known knowledge of the herb antiscam throughout the herblore market. And as someone with a completed antiscam I took pride in it, it took me forever to find 2 unid torstol, and it felt like an accomplishment. Herblore has been considered a difficult skill, and now its even slower exp than before, and more costly. And I'd like to add, anyone who has ever been pk'd by herb hunter (pker who kills people who are collecting herbs; similar to rc pking) in edgy dungeon druids, was satisfied knowing that the pker didn't make much money off your herbs as they don't know which are good herbs. Well guess what. They do now. So thank jagex next time you get teleblocked, entangled, and dds'd in edgeville dungeon while your collecting your herbs. Thank you for listening to my rant, I ask you keep the comments clean and respectful, and I also ask you know what your talking about before posting.

Appeal Appeal Appeal Appeal Appeal. tell jagex you where trying to be a good runescape citizen and help them with the war against bots. tell them he shew characteristics that made you feel he might of been macro'ing, and you reported him because of it. But Bots CAN speak. there are scripts with auto-repliers that will respond to simple questions. When a lvl 3 bald man named "suicheng245346" wearing green pants and a tan t shirt replies... I ask him to say my username so I know he isn't a bot. I don't see why people in this thread keep sticking up for lvl 3's that look like bots. It's really stupid and thoughtless to make your skiller appear to others as if it could be a bot. and your begging to be reported if you do that, so stfu about getting reported because anyone that is thoughtless enough to do so has it coming. Whats the point of playing an mmo if your not going to express yourself or interact with other players?

thanks for the help. ickkk looks like I have to get range up =\ Is armadyl hilt a more rare drop? or is it only rarer because armadyl bosses are harder to get kill count / beat and not so many people can camp there as compared to bandos and zammy?

7/10 I disagree with looting being wrong. That is one of the best ways to start a pure. As a looter. my pure started off by looting 200k+ in items / food/ arrows. Then that was enough to start pking over 700k air running is for when your too high to loot, and starting to get low on cash. and for those "anti-looters" I don't attack back, and I drag them into the skeletons... and then the skele's kill them. more loot! :D a good str pure has 25 mage for bind/tele as well. when your pking at hills on a lvl 50 pure, and run into a larger team of lvl 60s, its rather dumb to stand around and fight to the death as your not proving anything by dying.

yes, Im pretty sure they do. I got tele randomed once, and my demon was waiting for me to return =)

Hey, I'm skilling up to do god wars runs with my friends... and I reeeeaallyyy want to go so I might score a cheaper hilt. So here's the problem. I don't want to get range up, it's only 70. Can I use a dhally against the bosses? Because I've heard tradition melee doesnt work... and how does mage work if I can't use hally?

yeah ^.^ Having a godsword, a phat, and still having money left over has me beat by far haha =)

Abyssal whipping :XD: rofl that was priceless. I myself just have a cockatrice. I'd like the kbd or abby though

Sure :D ^_^

Holy **** nice stakes. But it looks like you've lost a few too because the bank doesn't quite add up to the money you won. oh well, it happens =) your attack is rather high, might want to put down the whip. but dang 9/10 for such riches =)

Nice kills I like the fact your a normal pker, not a barrows pure, zerker pure, tank etc. Nowadays it seems like everyone who does duels / pks is some kind of pure.

When I found out the blood spells weren't going to work, I basically used the caves as a learning experience. I got to wave 51 without a primary method of healing using this. Here is my method to dealing with the 360s and 90s together since it looks like people cant get the idea. First you start off in the position where I was. You follow the green line to the corner of italy.. and then run south to the bottom corner of the map.. And the follow the blue line to trap the 360 and the 90. 90% of the time this worked for me, it's basically using their range attack against them to escape. By the time your almost north of italy and the 90 is following you... you run around the corner and the 90 gets trapped. So the best warning now is for you to pray against what ever it is that got caught north of italy, assuming its a 90+ monster. Basically the opposite luring strategy, for getting rid of th 360/90, Instead of luring them close in attacking range. and to you noobie lurer's out there, I perfected the tactic by luring none other than the drunken dwarf himself (when I am alching). You just basically stand in front of him, and run quickly behind any obstacle around you. It may not sound like much, but it's fun, funny to do, and helps a little to get your luring strategies perfected.

I agree with purple sweets as opposed to blood spells. when my zerker pure did fight caves for the first time, the blood spells where barely healing me, if at all... the monsters with enough hp to heal yourself with have fair magic defense, even the melee guy. I personally prefer crystal bow as compared to rune crossbow w/ diamond bolts & rune kite. The bolts are a little annoying to buy, and crystal bow gives you a good range boost and is pretty effective. And if your a good rune pure, you should already have a crystal bow (rfd duhhh). That was what happened the first time, the 90s kept pounding me and I had no source of healing when I was getting piled except for the brews, which soon ran out. My next attempt will be with the same Armour, except rune legs and a archer helm. and invo will have800 purple sweets, I know it's alot, but I'd rather go safe, because getting up to wave 50, and then dying, is a bad feeling. and the same amount of brews, (the mystic top will be a brew/range pot as I wont be maging). I didn't have much of a problem with prayer drainage. I like god cloak over accumulator as I don't need to collect my arrows, and god cloak gives a prayer boost and +3 to defense stats. my next attempt will go great assuming I don't lose connection on jad. I have 52 prayer now, higher hp, experience in the caves, and more motivation for the cape. nice guide 8.5 / 10

You don't need very high attack to hit consistently on 45 defence hahaha. It helps a little, but if your hitting constant 25s - vengeance will be very effective for them. where as if your hitting 17 35 20 25 10 etc, they will have a hard time with deciding when to cast their vengeance. just a question for you, how do you feel about kids ranqe's vengeance timing? I think its rather off most of the time, as most people who use vengeance get ALOT more vengeance k.o's. he thinks he's still 1 defence, and safes sometimes because of it lol.

Oh thanks alot :D I'm not too worried about barrows gloves right now. Lately I've been skilling up in f2p, because after that I decided to cancel mems until I can get a computer that can handle combat. Not much point in having a p2p rune pure, if your computer cant handle pking. So yesterday I got 76 fishing =) right now I'm working on lunar diplomacy reqs, and 75 woodcutting. Because I'm starting to relise how expensive things are starting to get. And before I pk, I like to have at least 3 sets of armour.. And it's getting to the time where I need whips & 10m for 94 mage... So basically I'm getting skills to make money with, and to save myself common expenses like sharks and potions. I might make barrows into my moneymaker since I have about 1k rune arrows stocked up from killing fire giants. And about 25k fire runes as well, I could use to fire bolt + chaos gaunt it. 60 slayer would be nice to have so I can have access to Abberent specters (for herblore purposes) and for slayer dart. I had plans for 99 attack 90-95 str... But now that kids ranqe went rune pure, there are lots of other pures becoming rune pures. So strength is necessary to defeat other zerker pures. Although I'd much prefer to be killing barrows as opposed to killing a fellow rune pure. But when they attack you, you don't really have much choice. It's very very tempting to get 99 strength for the sake of having a skill cape... But 99 strength & 70 attack will get me killed. So for now my plans are 80 attack 90 str. About a month ago I saw a lvl 85 zerker pure with 99 str, 60 attack, 94 mage, and 11 prayer (I'm assuming because he has ancients). 1 combat lower, and 12 strength levels higher than me, just because he forfeited prayer.

I liked your guide =) Probably the first one I've seen. :thumbsup: Do you think you make an Armadyl boss guide? I'm really interested in obtaining that godsword. And what are your stats? :-k Because I noticed in the video seeing 99 prayer.. And you make it look so easy. All the other vids I've seen have teams of 85s-100s getting ownd. :ohnoes:

Oh, and in case your wondering how my zerker pure has been going :D This is moi :P Quest list :D Obviously from my previous post I made my fire cape attempt, and lost. I gave the advice to my pk partner, and he got his, and I'm wicked jealous. I started a rune pure / tank ranger clan called Death assembly, it had about 50 mems in one week.. one of our larger pk trips having 60 something opts; we ownd mb hard, but someone came back with their 110+ clan and knocked out a few of us (including myself; leaders have to stay thick and thin, I fought to the death haha) But I had to cancel my runescape members because of the following. About a month or two ago I was collecting defenders at cyclops, and my stepdad was downloading something on his computer that was making me lag... And I lagged for 3 whole minutes; and had half hp at time of lag I restarted runescape.. To find myself in falador. I lost a torso, 4m of stuff, & all but one of my rune defenders =\ So I decided that I'm fed up with losing millions, and days of effort, to lag. So I've canceled my members until I get a new computer. But when I come back I'm power training 90 str; 70 attack - all in my first 5-7 days. And I have enough cash left to work on the 103.5k alchs I need for 94 mage. And Thats what I hope to accomplish in my returning month. Month two will be getting my vengence, barrows gloves, making money, FIRE CAPE ATTEMPT #2, and hopefully to start my clan up again. And I've taken quite the interest in bandos & armaydl godswords. maybe I'll get to use them in the wild someday.

I haven't commented this thread in a while... :lol: When I made my first fire cape attempt on my zerker pure... I used blood spells, and it didnt work for me. The waves with the 360s and 90s damaged me too much for blood spells to heal me. What I wore was To maximize my range attack, as well as keep a good defence and prayer bonus. And for healing I'd throw on the mystic top and blood burst. Some of the monsters where more resistant to magic than I'd have hoped. The only problem I had in the caves was healing, I will go again with the same equipment, but bring 1000 purple sweets, just in case, no problem with being safe ;p And the cape is well worth the 4m+ its costing me haha. good luck, might want to look up "rune pure fight caves" on youtube for more info. I would not recommend blood spells from my experiance as a rune pure.

Best guide I've ever read. I opened this up, knowing a lot about herblore... But I learned more than I thought I would, like collecting places for secondarys =) Which brings me to ask, Why no mention of Chaos Druid Warriors? They are in yanille dungeon, have about 40hp, barely hit anything... And they drop herbs (sometimes they are stingy) and good secondarys like white berries, limps, unicorn dust, etc. I spent a week training there and got good money and herb exp from it. I need to work on my slayer so I can get the joy of training on abberent specters. And I need to get my agility to 62 so I can do some salarin hunts. You can do it with 62 agility; summer pies. :D Growing the watermelons and strawberries is less boring than getting 2 agility levels haha :D 10/10 And for the filthy herblore decision by jagex - 0 / 10 I am to proud of having a complete antiscam (with torstol) for them do wreck us herblorists with an update. Why can't they go back to picking on pures & mages?

Okay.. I'm training theiving for same reason everyone does - Anceint Magik. And I'm level 46, I absoulutely hate the skill... What is the best way I can get from 46 to 52 fast - Please take into account if other players will slow me down 0o

Tripsis, You use avantoes for super energys not Irits. My herblore is only 49, but I've found a very steady rate of exp is making prayer pots and selling them. Ranarrs are a commonly marketed herb, and Prayer potions are in demand. You can buy ranarrs 7k - 7.5k (7.5k makes them come very fast) You can buy Snape Grass 300-500ea (or collect, if you see someone selling 300ea your better off buying) And Vials 200ea off players (A good idea is to law run and buy them from entana after you trade essence for laws) Lately super sets havent been in demand so much, pure sets have been okay on market. (I've been merchanting in World 18 alot lately) This is from my experiance, try everything to see what suits you best. If you do want to make super energys I dont really use my avantoes so I will sell you 2k each.

lol no problem, Its just the only detailed guides there are are for pures or people with 60+ defence. I'd like to be level 80 with firecape... and when people see me in full rune w/ zerker they will be like :shock: Because pures are usually the only low levels you see with cape. I've just watched TONS of fight caves vids to try and become best I can :P I might more defenders, I remember back when I was working for them I got some nice experiance killing about 500 cyclops :P I think pking is more of just a routine strategy... Like in duel arena the strategy is to empty dds spec, then switch to scim / whip... Where as in wild its more of the opposite.. to get your oppenent down to 60% then empty 3 specs (save one just incase :P) and then switch back to scim / whip. (personally I find bringing whip into wild is pointless until your lvl 90+) Im think its better to get 90-95 str before getting 70 attack for whip. As whip is no better than scimmy / dds if you cannot hit very high with it. meaning it's an unnessicary risk :P lionel, I am 63 attack 80 str 45 def :P just a tip... Try to avoid fighting people in their 80s with 70 defence unless your up for a challenge :P Mainly because they dont wear the granite / dragon skirts in wild =(

I have mounted glory in my House right next to entrance Hehe I still have at least 3 rune defenders minimum :P I only have 1 torso as I absolutly DREAD barbarian assault. I have yet to get cape, As Im improving range / mage ( I still am a tad terrified of getting all the way to jad and having him 1 hit k.o me :o ) You sound as if you have experiance with cape, So if you dont mind me asking (I've been nice and given you lots of bumps hehe) Do you think (in your opinion) For Invo::: 700 blood rush 400 ice rush 3k addys 1 full crysal bow 200 purple sweets 2-3 sara brews & Super restores Rest full of ppots For Armour ::: Proselyte Helmet Proselyte Plate Black Dhide Chaps Barrows Gloves Ammy of Glory Rune Boots Obby Cape Ring of Recoil Mage short My plan is to ice rush 22s, Range / Blood Rush 90s + (depending on hp :P) not use Prayer until waves 20+ (purple sweets ;D) And use crystal bow waves 50/55+ (saving brews / super restores for emergencys) Will that get the job done, (I'm not too rich is why Im using ppots) ? Since str and att dont really matter here... Ill be doing with 70 range / 65 mage / 43 prayer / 72-73 hp / 45 defence I'm a FAIR lurer (I'm not sure if it's normal to have the 2 monsters the lvl 47 spawns come at you at same time) I was just messing around once, and used dds in caves. And I actually got to wave 14 without food or prayer VERY fast should I sacrifice an invo spot for dds? If you tell me I should contact an expert I wont be surprised. Ive just come to this strategy by looking at what pures / barrow do. Congratz on 1k views (my bad for such a long post :P)