More like an attempt to drop the price on them. And yes, the nerf rumors were also a myth, I just tested them. I wasn't attempting price manipulation, simply passing on something I'd heard, which actually sounds reasonably true. Do you have any idea of what the drop rate was for Dragon Claws from Tormented Demons? I may try getting twice as many KBD kills as that number over the holiday break to kind-of test this out... Spreading misinformation is bad also, but I'm assuming you weren't the price manipulator to start all of this :lol: I really don't have a clue as to the drop rate, though. I'm 40 quest points away, and not planning on getting them. 3rd age top = +24 magic Ahrim's top = +30 magic 3rd age bottom = +19 magic Ahrim's bottom = +22 magic 3rd age comes with ZERO melee defence, making it very slightly better then infinity\mystic and FAR worse then ahrims. Oh, and it's ugly. so whats the info about 3rd age and ahrims have to do with anything?