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The only way to really profit from these is to pack out the bones and sell them (or use Winter Storage scrolls) -- their routine drops are a joke (despite being "upgraded" a couple of years ago.) Whip, DFS and Veracs armor with Turmoil is probably the best way to go. I have a ton of advice and information for killing them on their Beastopedia page.

Herbs in first, maples now a close second.... everything else is far behind. Updated daily.

What are they doing about it? I don't refer to banning individual players, that's like trying to stop a flood with a bucket.

Jagex can and should solve botting the same way everyone else on the Internet does: CAPTCHAs. They're not very good about adopting industry standard solutions to *anything*, though, so that will probably never happen.

There are only 6000 server ticks per hour, so the max would be 27k. And of course, you could never kill one per server tick anyway. Much smarter ways of training prayer.

The bonescrusher is meant for *incidental* prayer training. Not as something you specifically set out to do. For example, if you have a Slayer task of 150 fire giants, it gives you "free" Prayer XP roughly equivalent to using 10 sets of dragon bones on a gilded altar. It was completely overpriced when it first came out, and slightly overpriced with the price change. But with the Hunter update, it is now a very good item. Because not having to drop or bury bones speeds up many types of Hunter training considerably.

Well in case anyone is wondering, it amounts to over $100,000,000,000 in aid since Israel was formed. And no, it wasn't formal aid in the early days, but most of the hardware the fledgling IDF used came from Western sources, a lot of it from the US as far as I can tell. And of course, the US was the first nation to recognize Israel's independence, which is pretty important too. Yep, you're pretty much right on. It is extremists on both sides of the issue that are the problem. And this is why people like myself are becoming more vocal. As for your more recent post, I don't think anyone is disputing that the commandos were attacked when they landed on the ship. They just shouldn't have been there at all. And once again, note that those pictures prove conclusively that if the people on the ship wanted those Israelis dead, they would be. Resisting was wrong, but they very arguably showed more restraint than Israel did.

And let's also see if players can avoid throwing temper tantrums if they miss a date or two, which might cause the BTS to go away again....

As I've said a million times, it comes down to expectations. North Korea is a rogue nation. We expect them to act like that. When Israel acts the same way, they get called a rogue nation as well. No country has a "right to exist". They all came into being in part due to violence, and there is usually no way to prove whether the people in a piece of land now are the same as the ones they claim to be descended from. Even native Americans were not exactly the peaceniks some portray them to be -- they clasedh frequently among themselves. Finally, you cannot use past injustices to rationalize current ones, or nothing ever improves. While the US may have done some very bad things 200 years ago, they have moved on, and it is entirely reasonable for them to expect an ally they fund to the tune of billions of dollars to behave in a way the US finds acceptable.

Do you? I think Jews in Israel are very much deluding themselves on this particular issue. The behavior of Israelis over the last decade is, IMO, one of the leading instigators of anti-Semitism in the world right now. Jews already face a constant uphill battle against those who hate them for who they are; now they get added to that *legitimate* criticism for how (some of them) *behave*. When Israel mistreats other people via blatantly unfair blockades, they lose the sympathy that you are still trying to play off of here. When Israelis act like the bad guys by attacking ships with civilians and killing and wounding dozens of them -- no matter the provocation -- they make the world care a little bit less about what happened in the 1940s. When Israel defies the world and says "Israel's security trumps international law and we'll do what we want", it makes the world want to take Israel down a notch. When Israelis elect people like Netanyahu makes the world feel Israel is not serious about peace -- for good reason. Anyone who thinks Israel can go it alone and have any sort of a successful future is fooling themselves.

I am quite sure Jagex could come up with something that would work. RS is not the only place that has to deal with bots, there are solutions out there. Well, it's a trade-off: more randoms means more annoyance but fewer bots. Fewer randoms? Less annoyance and more bots.

Yes, they were. They never should have tried to board that ship.

It's not about trying to convince you. Your closed-minded, thread-long display of pedantry speaks for itself. Thank you -- given the ignorance, propagandizing and blatant intellectual dishonesty on display by those who support Israel's right to break international law and kill civilians unnecessarily, I'll take a label implying "excessive concern with learning and precision" as a compliment. A very pertinent article:

You still haven't answered my question, nor admitted that you cannot answer it. Everyone here knows that if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be rabidly defending the right of the people on the boat to use whatever means necessary to repel the commandos. And so do you. That's why I say that this isn't just a difference of opinion -- your side is being intellectually dishonest.

What would Israeli ships be carrying there exactly? Doesn't matter what they would be carrying. Your reluctance to answer the question is answer in and of itself. I didn't see any compelling arguments in that article. It's the same "they were bad guys!" whining we've heard a million times. The people being bad guys didn't give the Israelis any more right to commandeer their ship in international waters and kill 9 of them, than it gives the cops the right to do shoot people because *they* are bad guys. (Psst: Terrorist groups use the *exact* same justifications. You're in poor company.)

This isn't what you want to hear, but the situation would be completely different. No blockade, no weapons to supply anyone, not anything. The situation would be completely different. Sorry, but that's a copout. The situations under which the request to board is made do not have to be identical. Remember that just as paranoid as you are about ships carrying Palestinian activists, Arabs feel the same way about you. The pertinent issue is a ship in international waters being asked for permission to be boarded by a country it considers an enemy or opponent, denying such permission, and then being boarded against their will. So I ask again: if Israel had a ship in international waters near an Arab country, that country's navy demanded the right to board, was told no and tried to board anyway, would you expect the Israelis to not respond, and then claim they were at fault if they did?

If being insulting and crude is now considered justification for slaughter in the eyes of Israelis, then you're becoming even more like the worst elements of your enemies than I thought. A combination of it being the main ship, them knowing what happened to the other 5, an attempt to provoke the IDF, and other factors. Now why don't you try to answer some of my questions? Start with this one: ETA: We'll have to wait a few days to see if that "radio transmission" turns out to be bullspit, since the IDF has a pretty bad track record for honesty (like the "Al Qaeda link" BS they are running away from now.) Apparently they also confiscated every electronic device on the ship to prevent anything but their version of events getting out. What a surprise. :rolleyes:

I never played RSC so I don't know how they were implemented there, but they do work on websites now, so perhaps that was just a poor implementation. Doesn't even need to be CAPTCHAs... could be simple math problems or something. But that applies to all the people rationalizing bots too. They think it is "good" to have cheap raw materials, but forget that for every person helped by a bot in this way, someone else is hurt.

The latter. The fastest way to do this is to not wait for the next floor to load. As soon as you see the XP rewards screen, logout to the lobby, then log back in and go down the stairs. Banjojam: Always do one instance of each floor you can do and then reset your progress. As for rushing, I wouldn't worry about that until you are at least level 50.

It's a selfish and short-sighted attitude, but not a new one. One of the chief complaints in early 2008 after the big changes were made was that gold farmers would be missed because now raw materials were too expensive. Regular randoms take too long and are annoying as hell, which is why people screamed to have them cut back, but this is the result. What they really need is "micro-randoms", that require human thought to answer, but can be done extremely quickly, something modelled after the CAPTCHAs used on websites. They should come up every 15 minutes or so.

And here are the facts that you conveniently omitted: - The ship was in international waters flying the flag of a NATO ally, so the Israelis had no right to send warnings or insist on searching it. - They attacked the ship anyway, and as soon as they did, that made them the aggressors and responsible for what transpired as a result. - They had OTHER OPTIONS that did not include the use of violence, but chose violence anyway. Yes, they did. They said "no". And so the Israelis attacked them. You're not dumb, but you don't appear to be very well-versed on this issue aside from repeating your side's position. I don't blame you, because you are very young, and to be honest I would probably have said pretty much the same things when I was your age. But you need to understand that in saying that it was okay for Israel to kill 9 activists on a ship because they wanted to search it, you come across as being as extremist and illogical as the bad elements on the other side. The soldiers were attacked because *they* attacked the ship. Sending commandos to board a ship in international waters without authorization is an act of violence. It is intellectually dishonest to ignore the first violent act taken and focus only on the response. Or, look at it another way. Suppose it were an Israeli ship that were 40 miles off the coast of an Arab state, and that country's navy demanded the right to board, was told no and tried to board anyway -- would you say that the Arab commandos "were ATTACKED!"? Or would you say that the Israelis on the ship were defending themselves from an unauthorized boarding? Be honest. I know the history of Israel very well -- probably better than you do, even though you live there. And that's exactly WHY I am so damned pissed off. Because Israel's moral high ground is *essential* to its power, and to its support by Western powers and Jews in the diaspora. But now I see the government basically saying "We'll do what we want and to hell with everyone else", and I see people like romy and yourself justifying unnecessary deaths, and it really sets me off. Acts like this flotilla attack are not worthy of Israel. They are the sorts of things that they complain about their enemies doing, and rightly so. Attacking a ship and killing people because you want to send a message is no better than firing rockets at cities or blowing up car bombs. It is not entirely Israel's fault. First, the flotilla itself was a provocation. Second, as I've already said, once the commandos did board the ship, the activists should not have beaten them. But Israel is responsible for the encounter becoming violent when it didn't need to be. Actually, I *am* the one who determines that it was Israel's fault, at least as far as I am concerned. Everyone gets to make their own judgments about what happened, based on the evidence. Again, facts are not opinions are not facts. If it is your opinion that this was the best way for them to handle this, then fine, I disagree but that is your right to feel that way. However, claiming "there is very little else that could have been done" is a factual claim, and is WRONG. There were many, MANY other options, and denying that they exist is not reasonable. Respect is not a right, and it is not freely given -- it must be earned. Not all viewpoints are worthy of respect. I'm sure you don't respect the viewpoint of Hamas extremists that Israel as a nation should cease to exist. Neither do I. I similarly do not respect viewpoints that put human life below the political need to send a message to political activists. Because that's all this situation boils down to: Israel wanted to send a message to the "Freedom Flotilla", and engaged in unnecessary violence to do so, costing human lives for no valid reason. And you and gabe defend it. I do not respect people who support unjust causes, like keeping 1,500,000 people living in squalor in a pointless attempt to get them to change their government. In addition, I cannot respect people who do not argue rationally and honestly, who keep repeating points that have been refuted, who parrot government propaganda as if it were fact, and who think that their own needs and wants trump everyone else's.

And you're also an Israeli, and also a teenager with very little life experience. So, no big surprise there. Israel attacks ships flying a NATO ally flag in international waters. Israeli commandos kill 9 people. But you claim this was "not Israel's fault". That's a perfect example of reflexively defending your country without any reasonable justification. If you want to be honest, then just say "I don't care about them dying because I think they were bad people". Because that's basically what your position is anyway. The difference is that I *have* arguments. I have outlined alternatives to what was done. I have explained why the claim of imminent threat was bogus. I and others have explained why international laws in international waters matter. I have described why the blockade is not simply about security. She has no arguments. She just repeats talking points spoonfed to her by her government. You don't even bother with that. You just say "Well I'm Israeli and I think what they did was fine." It seems plenty of non-terrorists are equally lacking in that regard, given that you just tried to claim that Israel is not at fault for 9 people dying in an incident that was caused by an Israeli assault that was entirely avoidable. Yes, apparently so important that you are willing to lower yourself to the immoral levels of your enemies, and destroy your country to try to get it. The difference is that people like you won't even admit that Israel was wrong to do what it did. You don't respect anything except your own self-interest. As for disagreement, when it comes to opinion, that's great. When it comes to massive denial of simple facts, it isn't. Facts are not subject to opinion, and the facts are that 9 people are dead because Israel chose to attack a ship in international waters, deliberately *not* choosing non-violent alternatives. Deal with it.

Yes, but it doesn't matter. Because she actually believes the spoon-fed tripe from her government that Israel's security is so important that international law doesn't matter. Even to the point of killing people when it wasn't necessary -- the mere "possibility" that there "might" have been "something" bad on the ships justifies 9 people dying and dozens being wounded, to these right-wing types. I could point out that if Israel can justify breaking international law because of "security concerns", so could her enemies, like Iran. In fact, I have. I could point out that they didn't need to search the ship, they could have waited for it to dock and then inspected the cargo. In fact, I have. And so on. It doesn't matter, because regardless of what you say to romy, she will just repeat the same IDF/Likud talking points. No amount of logical arguments, legal analysis, or contradictory evidence will have any effect, because she's simply not listening. It's just the same false claims and propaganda repeated page after page. Might as well try talking to an IDF tank. You cannot reason with unreasonable people, and I for one and done trying, at least until she stops parroting nonsense and makes some actual points. She wants to believe what she needs to believe, so let her keep repeating whoppers like claiming that they attacked these ships out of "self-defence". It's not like anyone with a clue is going to buy it.

Then why are so many things banned from Gaza that have nothing to do with security? With that I agree. Pure stupidity. It's stupidity in that it doesn't work, but it's not by accident. It's being done deliberately. You "maintain" lots of things. Unfortunately, nearly all of them are self-serving, or factually incorrect parroted propaganda. Banning chocolate and guitars is not about security. It is about punishment. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/16/israel And that's precisely what they do. They let in enough aid so that what they are doing doesn't lead to an outright humanitarian disaster that they can't defend, but they are punishing them as much as possible. Security my ass. Israel is *about* security? What does that mean? That it's goal is it's security? It means that you put yourselves first and only care about peace if it can be obtained on your own terms -- which means it will never happen at all. It means you consider 9 civilian lives so unimportant that you rationalize attacking ships when it was completely unnecessary. As long as they do it on Israel's terms. And they say Israel can have peace on their terms. And that's why there is no peace -- because both groups are led by selfish, self-destructive, egotistical morons who care only about knocking the other guy down and complaining about how they have been wronged, than they do about moving past the idiocy and working towards peace. This is laughably silly. Everything Netanyahu has done shows he couldn't care less about peace. Oh, I'm tired of this sentence. Too bad. It's the truth. They had other options, they did not have to storm those ships. You can deny this FACT as often as you want, but it will not go away. False, as a simple matter of fact. Other options were available. They attacked the ships not because it was necessary, but because they wanted to. Because that's what Israel has become these days, unfortunately, thanks to its right-wing leaders and credulous supporters who will go along with any idiotic, immoral or even outright evil act if some government hack stands up and screams "Security! Security!" Exactly the same as happens in my country these days. And exactly the same reason why we too are no longer seen as the good guys -- because lately, much of the time, we unfortunately aren't. Neither are you. You're a young person. Some day you'll get older and realize that blind faith in your government -- ANY government -- is a very naive position, and an extremely bad idea.

Don't expect a rational answer to this question. For example, why is/are chocolate, dried fruit, and seeds/nuts not allowed? I believe noodles were even banned until sometime last year. Don't worry -- after listening to the Israelis and Israeli apologists argue that it was "obligatory" to attack these ships because of "security", or compare a pre-inspected ship 40 miles off the coast flying a NATO member country's flag to an unidentified aircraft 10 miles from the US capitol, I have very low expectations when it comes to rational answers from that crowd.