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Cannon doesn't give HP xp :P Oh ok then, silly me =P Where did I get that Hp Xp then? I think Zojefski did something wrong in his math. 242.2m attack/str/def xp divided by 3 = 80.7m hp from melee 5.9m hp leftover from steel titan

Cannon doesn't give HP xp :P

This was probably the funniest thing I saw about this update: http://gyazo.com/6afac870e2aae68686a5c2d3f5cd20e9

He has probably been asleep since it was announced.

*groan* By the way, efficiency doesn't mean 'speed' at all. It means 'best'. If he only has 16m then doing a method that takes 50 hours and makes him 50m is better than something that takes 30 hours and loses 15m. And if he does decide to choose a method that loses money he most certainly should do it last unless it has an effect on other skills, as then he will have enough money and not have to worry about wasting it and being back to square one. Efficiency at heart. Efficiency is mostly based on value of time, not the amount of money you have.

Could you take a guess about your average mining xp/hr tho? Come on, it's suomi, his max is his average :P.

If all of the the posts were strictly on topic, this thread would be incredibly boring. Besides, we need these off topic conversations to keep the thread active when nothing is going on on RS. An off topic conversation is better than no conversation. I don't agree - If you continue posting like this I think a nice long ban will make it easier for everyone to find Langer's updates. Thanks. @ Everyone who wants to discuss this public warning: you may do so via PM. Any replies here will be removed and count against you when bans are handed out. Langer's update is conveniently located on the first post of this thread, it should be very easy for everyone to locate.

No They did change the click area on spells and prayers, you have to click directly on the picture now. But I'm also getting the "dead clicks" that Foot was talking about. Try clicking on high alch in the upper left corner of the spell where the picture ends and there is some empty space, I'm pretty sure it used to work but doesn't anymore.

Just got 3 dead clicks in a row trying to click on high alch...

World 88, "Mining Golds" friend chat

I'm pretty sure Jebrim would measure in time spent on a single skill. The minimum time that would be spent getting 400m Cook xp is about 500 hours whereas the minimum time you could get 365m Agility xp is over 5,000 hours of perfect laps. In time, 200m cook xp is about equal to ~18m agility xp.

I have no idea on the xp/hr, I never payed any attention to that when I was doing slayer. I think for maximizing slayer xp/hr though, it is suggested to block greater demons. They are about 66k slay xp/hr and up to 200 crimsons/hr which is actually better than waterfiends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymBco30HoQ0 It was actually around 3m xp/hr but it got nerfed a few months ago.

Zarfot took all of his videos down but here is Foot's channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/GiveMeMyArm GF Suomi, I'm a more efficient poster :P

No, the whole front page is 200m already. Edit: Too slow :(

RWT $? It's against the rules. He should only use overloads if he has enough GP. You really thought that was what he meant? Yes, use overloads, 1k should be plenty for 99. 1 overload = 60 minutes 1k overloads = 60k minutes or 1k hours 11,202k xp remaining to 99 slayer If you can get higher than 11,202 slayer xp/hr then you won't run out of overloads. 1k Overloads is enough for 40m slayer xp at 40k xp/hr which is fairly easy to maintain, especially with cannon and turmoil.

He said after he is done using X number of bones. I don't think he wants to tell anyone what his plans are, if he even has any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmht5i2bMII You could easily get 99 fletching before 99 woodcutting without wasting anytime using this method. Edit: I wouldn't recommend training woodcutting until you have 92 fm for the adze. I would get 92 fm just from burning logs, then not burn any logs until you open all of your effigies and get 99 woodcutting. 99 wc will get you about 4m fm xp from the adze. If all of your effigies are starved, opening them will give you around 1.035m fm xp. Opening effigies and your adze will get you from lvl 92 fm to about 1.4m xp from 99 fm, the last 1.4m xp should be done by burning logs unless you care about xp past 99, if you do I would just wc the rest of the fm xp.

99 Range would cost you about 30m at cave crawlers maybe a little more because you don't have a steel titan so you would have to stay there longer with an iron titan. You would get about 15-20 more effigies and it would take 15-20 hours.

This info is taken from one of Thai Tong's posts on the 200m in all skills topic: V = Value of Time/Hour Open with: Firemaking if V > 0 Agility if V > 0 Runecrafting if V > 630k Fishing if V > 1550k Woodcutting if V > 1700k Mining if V > 3300k Thief if V > 4090k Hunter if V > 5750k Personally, I go with the slower skill for every effigy combo because I am already 99 in most of the faster skills, and I prefer training the faster skills. Note: The values above may have changed a bit because he posted that a couple weeks ago.

ARGGGHH NO!! Did you pm him to get a move on :P? but drumgun did it without effigyś right ? seems much more of a accomplishment then what elias is doing both are amazing achievements tough dont get me wrong He did it by spending a crap load of soul wars points in 1 day and then training summoning I believe.

He didn't break any rules to do this and you don't need that much money to get 99 everything lol.

It's a combination of cost, usefulness, speed, difficultly/afk(ness?), if it's members only or not, how old the skill is, and a few other things. Agility: ~15k with 99 Thief: ~26k with 99 Cost: Both skills cost very close to nothing. Usefulness: Both are very limited in their uses, I would say agility is a bit more useful but not much. Speed: Thief is a little over 3 times faster than Agility. Difficulty: Similar amount of clicking. Release: Thief is a couple months older but hardly makes a difference as it was nearly 10 years ago. They are very similar besides the fact that Thief is a lot faster, which made almost 2 times more people have 99 in the skill. Difficulty isn't really the only factor in how many people have it, I think construction just has everything 'bad' for it besides speed, it is relatively expensive, it's not afkable, it's not very useful, it's not that old of a skill, and it is members only.

Suomi told me that he was planning on getting 200m thief or hunter last, although this could change because he said he takes things day by day. I'm pretty sure he is planning on killing crawlers for runecrafting after he finishes slayer.

Assuming no time for moneymaking(which is reasonable), yes. Only applies to slayer, rc and agility(no horn), though. Mining might be very boarderline, and you wouldn't get any melee and summoning xp by then. Austin, it's 3 mage tree runs per day, btw. Any idea on how high you have to value your time for cave crawlers to be better than training them "normally"?