True, and guthans beat veracs like veracs easily beats dharok. (dh beats guthans easily) Guthan's completely blows in a Duel. I agree its great for killing NPCs, but arena fights are so quick that the set effect often doesn't fire during the fight. And if it does, you're still using a rather weak weapon against a flurry of DDS specials, whips, and other various means of loosing massive amounts of HP quickly. Now that I know about the armor part of the Veracs effect I can see how useful it is....But I've seen a guy in Guthans get owned 10+ times in a row because his warspear was to slow.