Full Dharok's vs. Barrows Mix

[Xeones]

I want to raise all my stats evenly, with Strength a little higher than the others. I want to use a Whip doing this, also. So, I ask you, which way is better?

 

 

 

Method 1: Full Dharok's, a Whip, and a Dragon Sq Shield. I use my Whip (Controlled) until my health goes below 30%, at which point, I take out my Greataxe (Aggressive) and hit hard to boost Strength. When my health gets dangerously low, I eat back to full health and start again.

 

 

 

OR

 

 

 

Method 2: Torag's Platebody, Torag's Platelegs, Verac's Helm, a Whip, Dragon Sq Shield. I use the Whip (Controlled) FOREVER. I use my Dragon Scimitar occasionally to boost my Strength.

 

 

 

***NOTE: Verac's helm has 2 less armor vs crush and 6 less armor vs ranged. Does the +3 prayer bonus make up for this?***

 

 

 

This is for general playing and dueling.

 

 

 

Please choose Method 1 or Method 2 with a brief reason why. Thanks!

[kemikalkadet]

if you can afford it get guthans. train in full rune/drag with whip on controlled then heal with guthans as necessary. it'll save you a ton in repairs.

[freckleballer42]

dh of course. its better def bonus( im pretty sure or almost equal) and you have great ax for ko

[Xeones]

Guthan's is expensive. If I use your way, I'm NEVER getting rune as a member, which leaves me with Dragon, which has horrible stats. NTY.

 

 

 

BTW, I'm not THAT much of an idiot... Torags legs and plate with veracs helm has 10 more armor than full dharoks. on the other hand, the dharoks set effect is pretty nice, but many people dissuade me by saying that the greataxe is too slow and hits too many 0s. that's why i made this topic.

 

 

 

also, do you think the +3 prayer from veracs helm makes up for the lost armor?

 

 

 

So far, Dharok's has 1 vote. Other method has 0. Keep em coming!!!

[superson]

Wait...

 

 

 

Rune is too expensive and dragon has horrible stats?

 

 

 

I think you have that mixed up, and rune doesn't have bad stats anyways...

 

 

 

You will spend a LOT on repairs, and if you train sensibly, most monsters won't hit hard on rune anyways.

[Xeones]

I never said Rune was too expensive. I said I'm not gonna pay 5 dollars a month to wear Rune. Dragon has crap stats for being a 17m+ armor. Barrows sets beat out dragon by like 75+ armor.

 

 

 

Everyone... stop talking about the repairs and whatever. Just vote for which method would work best. I'm leaning toward Dharok's atm. any more???

[Smapla]

asking people to ignore the repairs when making a decision is not sensible.

 

 

 

You're asking us to use all of our knowledge to make a well thought out decision, but ignoring the costs of one method as opposed to another doesn't do this. If one method was slightly more efficient than another, by your logic it would be sensible to select that method, even if the cost was infinitely larger.

 

 

 

I said I'm not gonna pay 5 dollars a month to wear Rune.

 

 

 

You refuse to use a f2p item just because you could be using a members item?

 

 

 

Do you plan on using lobsters? strength potions?

 

 

 

You'd actually be paying the five dollars a month to train on a larger range of monsters, not to wear rune. oh, and bankspace, skills, a more extensive map, more worlds, minigames, etc.

[Xeones]

repair for method 1 is 330k. repair for method 2 is 230k. its not EXTREMELY expensive for every 15 hrs of combat. 100k more isn't that big of a difference, so I now want to know which method is more effective.

 

 

 

With membership comes a whole new world of armor and weaponry that I'm looking forward to. Due to this, I actually DO refuse to wear Rune as a member. I never said anything about lobbs or str pots, even though I dont know if ill use those either. You're making a lot out of a little here.

 

 

 

:-k

[Smapla]

I think about 4/5 of all members that have 70 defence would still wear rune most of the time. Other than that, the fighter torso comes to mind.

[Xeones]

^That's interesting. The only time I would get an inkling of a thought of wearing Rune is when I PK. That's about it. But, you seem like a very smart person (as seen in your YouTube video), so which do you think is the best choice for me from the above-posted methods?

[Smapla]

Well, of your two methods, it depends. The dharok method would probably raise your strength the way you want, but would require more attention. The torag way would be a lot more afkable. Either way, I suggest you train on skeletons with the salve ( (e) ) amulet.

 

 

 

 

 

Other than that, there are a few things that come to mind with training:

 

 

 

 

 

1) Choosing the best monster to train on

 

2) Location of monster

 

3) Utilizing the special attack to the fullest extent

 

 

 

There are different types of monsters, some are better to train on. For instance, you wouldn't want to train on something that poisons you. The best monsters to train on are undead monsters, because you can use the salve amulet. the salve amulet increases your strength and attack by either 15 or 20 percent, depending on whether you have a salve, or a salve(e), respecively.

 

 

 

If you've got your dream monster picked out, it isn't much help if it takes fifteen minutes to get there. See if the same monster is available in different spots. If you can bring guthans or bones to peaches, or some other source of hitpoints, you'll still have to worry about potions. You should always use potions, they're cheap from the warriors guild (14-15 gp per attack and strength, 144 for defence)

 

 

 

A lot of people would probably use their special attack energy to unload four dds specs. This is a really inefficient method, because you'll have to wait about seven minutes to use it again. Better special attacks to use are ones that last for a long time, like the dragon battle axe, or the excalibur spec. The dragon battle axe increases your strength a lot, but you'll hit less, which is especially true for higher level monsters. The excalibur spec is good to use if you are afking, or if the monsters are far away from a bank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I think of more things, I'll repost.

[Xeones]

Smapla, I'm not exactly talking about training. I mean just general RuneScape playing and also dueling. I'm limited on money, so I can't have both options. Also, I use a D B axe spec followed by a stat restore potion. These are very inexpensive and common, and is deadly combined with the b axe spec. I agree with the DDS thing, unless, of course, ur pk-in or ur a pure strength.

 

 

 

BTW, I'm one of those people who watches their character 24/7 and sees what they hit and check experience consantly. :ohnoes: So the "afk-ability" isn't much of a problem.

 

 

 

The salve amulet (e) idea is of course a good one, except I'm not training. You seem to say that Dharok's is better, but riskier (which I don't mind).

 

 

 

On the other hand, using the first method would give me 10 less armor and I wouldn't use my Dragon Scimitar much. My long-term goals are 75 attack, 80 strength, and 75 defense. With Controlled on my whip and another Aggressive weapon, this can be achieved. Dharok's would give me an upper hand in dueling, also.

 

 

 

Looks like it's gonna be Dharok's, unless you have something else to say.

[Smapla]

I'm sorry, I assumed you meant training, since most of the activities in runescape don't actually involve combat.

 

 

 

For dueling... Well, veracs is the time tested winner there. I don't really know what you want here... Are you just talking about the small bits of experience that you pick up from things like dueling?

[Xeones]

Just for an all-purpose armor that I wear to everything. To Dueling, to Training, to Questing, to Castle Wars, to helping friends, to Minigames, to EVERYTHING.

 

 

 

Obviously, I'll gain experience as I move along, but here's the key question:

 

 

 

METHOD 1 OR METHOD 2?

[Smapla]

I would say method two then.

[Xeones]

Wow, you surprised me with that choice. What about Dharok's set effect?

[Smapla]

Wow, you surprised me with that choice. What about Dharok's set effect?

 

 

 

I apologize, but i'm a bit sleepy, and in my last post I had misread a portion of one of your posts.

 

 

 

Either method seems okay, but now i'm leaning a bit towards the dharok method, but only for training purposes.

 

 

 

During minigames, duels, and random combat situations, dharok's set effect wouldn't be helpful, because the combat would be so short that you wouldn't be able to lose enough hitpoints in time, really.

 

 

 

Your style of combat is very different from mine; I only train one skill at a time, and when in combat I usually either use accurate (whip) or strength (great axe, anchor, etc) modes. For instance, I'd never go training with two primary weapons.

 

 

 

When I'm walking around runescape I generally don't carry anything really, and I usually don't just walk around runescape.

 

 

 

I'm quite an odd runescaper, I basically live at castle wars, shadow lair skeletons, the warriors guild (see avatar), and sometimes pest control; so I guess I just don't exactly understand all the circumstances you want your armour set to fit.

 

 

 

EDIT: I'd like to recommend a small change if you chose outfit two. I'd replace the verac helm with the Neitzoit helm. it's basically a berserker helm with better bonuses.

[Roberthree]

(I skimmed most of this, so forgive me if I'm repeating someone)

 

 

 

Dharok's is godly xp when used in combination with PC.

 

Even without, its damage output is so large the xp is rapid no matter were you use it.

 

 

 

I checked out your character, he has 43 prayer. As long as you stay in an area with monsters who use only one attack style, and have enough ppots, you'll be fine.

 

 

 

Bring about 3 sharks and an Ectophial until you get used to it, if the little (/) thing above your head dissapears and you're out of ppots eat as many sharks as you need and empty your ectophial. Also eat the sharks if your hp drops to an uncomfortable level. Wear a ring of life until you get used to it. Try toying with it at the Duel Arena if you want to try it out at the lowest risk possible, once you get used to it I'm sure it will be a great tool for all your strength training and staking needs =D

[Smapla]

(I skimmed most of this, so forgive me if I'm repeating someone)

 

 

 

Dharok's is godly xp when used in combination with PC.

 

Even without, its damage output is so large the xp is rapid no matter were you use it.

 

 

 

I checked out your character, he has 43 prayer. As long as you stay in an area with monsters who use only one attack style, and have enough ppots, you'll be fine.

 

 

 

Bring about 3 sharks and an Ectophial until you get used to it, if the little (/) thing above your head dissapears and you're out of ppots eat as many sharks as you need and empty your ectophial. Also eat the sharks if your hp drops to an uncomfortable level. Wear a ring of life until you get used to it. Try toying with it at the Duel Arena if you want to try it out at the lowest risk possible, once you get used to it I'm sure it will be a great tool for all your strength training and staking needs =D

 

 

 

He isn't using it to train, atleast not mainly :?

[Xeones]

I will be using this to train, as I said before, everything.

 

 

 

I've found another idea. \

 

 

 

For everything but dueling, I would set up like this:

 

 

 

Verac's Helm (much better stats than Neitiznot's helm)

 

Torag's Platebody

 

Torag's Platelegs

 

Dragon Sq Shield

 

Abyssal Whip/ Dragon Scimitar/ d b axe

 

Amulet of Glory

 

Ring of Wealth / Warrior Ring

 

Rune Boots

 

Dragon Gloves

 

 

 

For dueling, I would wear this:

 

 

 

Verac's Helm

 

Verac's Brassard

 

Verac's Plateskirt

 

Verac's Flail/ d b axe

 

Amulet of Glory

 

Ring of Wealth / Warrior Ring

 

Rune Boots

 

Dragon Gloves

 

 

 

For PK-ing, I would wear this:

 

 

 

Berserker Helm

 

Rune Platebody

 

Rune Platelegs

 

Rune Kiteshield

 

Abyssal Whip (Protect Item)/ dds

 

Rune Defender

 

Amulet of Power/Strength

 

Ring of whatever

 

any boots

 

any gloves

 

 

 

So, in total, I would buy full Verac's, Torag's plate and legs, which would drain my money to close to nothing, but oh well.

 

 

 

About the Full Dharok's method. I tried it out with my friend's character and I don't particularly like it. It's inaccurate and slow. Whenever it hits high, I think to myself what I could've done with the Whip in that time. Also, with Full Dharok's on, I won't be able to get myself to low health without taking off my armor and standing there, which I don't want to do cuz I wanna use my Whip. So, there goes the Full Dharok's method.

 

 

 

Another question: Verac's helm has 2 less armor vs crush and 6 less armor vs ranged compared to Guthan's and Torag's helms, but gives +3 prayer. Does the prayer bonus make up for lost armor?

 

 

 

With full Verac's, I'd pwn anything in the Duel Arena, staking or not. For example, if I'm up against a ranger, I'd use my Torag's with Verac's Helm. Against another warrior, which is usually the case, I'd use my full Verac's and cut through their armor.

 

 

 

Full Dharok's may seem to be extremely good in the beginning when you watch those videos of people hitting in the 60s, but it just doesn't cut it compared to a Whip in PvE or a Full Verac's with flail in PvP.

 

 

 

Another Question: About the d b axe special... I would probably use it every 5 minutes, which also means I would consume a restore potion every 5 minutes. Doesn't this mean I would carry LOTS of those?

 

 

 

Thanks to all who helped me, especially Smapla. I am definitely going with Full Verac's, with Torag's plate and legs in PvE. Unless, of course, Smapla proves me wrong somehow. :wall:

[Roberthree]

Theres something people overlook...

 

 

 

Dharok's Greataxe has a very large strength bonus. You don't need to stand around and lower your health before using it. Just fight like normal and you'll hit higher when your HP drops even if you don't notice.

 

 

 

(I alch at the duel arena an the Dharok's users and Ancients are the ones who win the most)

[Xeones]

I heard from hundreds of people that Verac's always wins in Duel Arena unless up against Ancients.

 

 

 

Dharok's Greataxe has a GREAT strength bonus, but a NOT-SO-GREAT accuracy and speed.

 

 

 

Full Dharok's at max health is near-useless.

 

 

 

Also, can someone post a screenshot of a character wearing Torag's Platebody, Torag's Platelegs, and Verac's Helm? Or should I start a new topic on this?

[Erk02]

Do you really need to think about getting all of this expensive armor when you have like 6 stats ranked? Just do slayer with rune (yes, I said rune) until 90-ish combat, join a pc clan, and then pk, or whatever it is that you do.

 

 

 

Edit- How did you afford all of this expensive armor? You have 3 stats ranked! Also, I used rune up until 89 combat. (Which is what I am now.) Nothing wrong with rune.

[Xeones]

Do you really need to think about getting all of this expensive armor when you have like 6 stats ranked? Just do slayer with rune (yes, I said rune) until 90-ish combat, join a pc clan, and then pk, or whatever it is that you do.

 

 

 

What do you mean by this? Are stats suddenly un-changeable now?

[Erk02]

Do you really need to think about getting all of this expensive armor when you have like 6 stats ranked? Just do slayer with rune (yes, I said rune) until 90-ish combat, join a pc clan, and then pk, or whatever it is that you do.

 

 

 

What do you mean by this? Are stats suddenly un-changeable now?

No, I was wondering why you're planning so far ahead.